MBB: Coast 2 Coast Athletic Conference

[MuMu]

Justin Baker or Mike Lee, which one would you choose to put on 1st or 2nd team. Hood should have two on the 1st team, and who ever finish second place should have one on 1st team and one on second.

Player of the year take Chad off of York and what do they have?Not this good of a season, thats for sure!

[mwgoonie]

Baker 1st, definitely. Lee had a slump some games, but has come out of it this week. 2nd team, at best, no room for him on 1st, no sure if his play merits 1st. Lee has become more of a passer bc teams key on him so much. i believe he has the best ass/turn over ratio in the CAC.

However, I rather hoist a banner in Goolrick than have a piece of paper saying so and so had a good individual year. maybe I'm old fashioned!

[Salem, VA]

In regards to player of the year, I really like what Lee is doing.  He is the catalyst for his team.  The two Hood kids I hear are great but i have not seen them.  And then you have McGowen.  Single handedly took over against Salisbury.  Im not saying he is player of the year but if you take Chad off that team they would maybe have 2 conference wins at most...That being said you could probably say that about any of the top players. 

As good as Hood has been.  They will not win the CAC's.  They will win regular season at a 12-14 win clip.  They have not been overly impressive in there wins against the next couple of schools.  A 2 point win against York and a 1 point win against Mary Wash in overtime is not something that merits there dominance.  But we will see thats just my opinion.  You can write that down!

Looking forward to the stretch run....

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

By the way... I forgot to mention Baker and Lee in my all-conference selections... and Baker in my MVP/MOP/whatever arguement. Didn't want UMW fans thinking I was slighting them.

If Hood wins the regular season at a 12-14 win clip... and don't win the conference title in the tournament... they may be a looking at a Pool C bid. Of course, it depends on who their losses are to in the end.

[bbald eagle]

Lee has become more of a passer bc teams key on him so much.

Keying on Lee may say a lot about what opposing coaches think of him, and they are the all-CAC voters

[kitchenrat]

Some deserving players are going to be left out (as some do every year). Maybe the CAC should consider making it three teams all-conference selections... since there are now nine teams and soon ten to consider players from.

Alright D-mac, what have you heard? Any word on who else maybe in line to join the CAC going forward?

[mwgoonie]

I hope they reward him for such a great CAC career. Lee has really been a major force in keeping MW on the radar since their NCAA tourney run. Actually, he is arguably the MOST DANGEROUS player in the CAC. He has the ability to simply turn it on without upsetting the system Woods has put in place. He can hurt you so many ways, just by having him on the court.
So we'll see. Another big week in the CAC

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Some deserving players are going to be left out (as some do every year). Maybe the CAC should consider making it three teams all-conference selections... since there are now nine teams and soon ten to consider players from.

Alright D-mac, what have you heard? Any word on who else maybe in line to join the CAC going forward?

Honestly... mathematical mistake. My subtraction of two and addition of two added a third by accident. I keep adding Hood in my math... since they will be adding their women's programs next season... despite the fact Hood has already joined in the men... OBVIOUSLY! Sorry for the confusion.

The only thing I have heard with the CAC is that there are still some decisions being made... and that there may be some future moves. A nine-team conference is not the perfect number. You really would rather have an even number... meaning 8 or 10!

Yes, bold was on purpose!

[kitchenrat]

Got ya D-mac. 8 or 10 would make more sense.

Here is my problem with POY, ROY and all CAC:

NO CONSISTENCY!

MuMu says that Hood should have two on the first team if they finish first, and that is solid reasoning, but where was it last year when York flat out dominated they league and had one on the first team and one on the second. At worst McGowan and Bushey should have both been on the first team.

Then there's this idea of class year. I'm not trying to take away from either the season Gallaudet had or the career that Haney had, but if he was the POY just because it was his senior year, will the same hold true if YCP goes 14-12 (7-7) in McGowan's senior year? I know 14-12 is like 22-4 at Gally, but I don't think he was the POY last year, I think there were two or three guys (McGowan included) who were above him.

This year you only have to look at the numbers and see who is playing the best ball. Any time you average a double double you are pretty damn good, and so I think you have to look long and hard at Gutekunst. After him, it's hard to ignore what Russo does on a night in, night out basis, espically now that he doesn't have Jonathan Garritt around anymore. When you look at Ray Williams' scoring totals it's hard not to think about him as a solid candidate. (and when you consider that Brad Zerfing pretty much took him out of the game on Saturday, and held him in check down there,  I think he should get some talk for the 2nd team all CAC) 

These things are never perfect, and If I thought those who vote spent as much time thinking and talking about it as we do, I would be ok with it.

[MuMu]

As a fan it would be nice to have his fav player on the all cac team. I hope they would all rather have a banner hanging so they can boost about that on the post board. You better hope Mu does not win, because I will use that in every argument and even in the off season

kitchenrat it has to be Gutekunst or  McGowan. Will they go for how well the team is doing or how bad would the team do without there big gun!

Lee is like Kobe this year making his teamates better by passing. Who know this year.

Haney was a stud every game and gave everything he had no matter what the score was.

Mu by 4 over CUA!!!!you know it Matt

[mwgoonie]

YEah, no 81 point games here, just a whole lot of passing. but no one plays Kobe too tight or too loose. Too many weapons.
Please let MU beat CUA. Wheeler vs Gray downlow? Diamond vs
Ha, bring back Ed Carrai!

[Matt Letourneau]

If Catholic plays like they just did, they won't lose to Marymount at home.

We'll see what happens though.  I know its going to be a tough game, the coaching staff knows, and the players know.

The Cardinals have a lot of weapons, but they still need their big guns--Dwyer and Fumai--to have decent games.

Even before the Marymount meltdown, the Cardinals were starting to pull away and I'm confident they would have won. 

[MuMu]

Marymount meltdown good one Matt! If the 6'2 monster in Grey put's up 16-20 in the game we might have a shot. Marymount really does not have a true 1, SO IN A GAME like this tempo is key. I think this has to be the game of the week. That CUA romping to Goucher worries me a bit. Corey D wil be the floor leader.

[bisonpride]

Tonight's result from Field House..

Christendom - 37
@ Gallaudet  - 53

[CACsportsnut]

I think a big part of who makes first team all CAC, second team, POY, ROY and so on and so forth depends on who picks it?

So who does pick it?

I mean if it is just a plain old panel who picks it, you will see the guys withh the highest averages and most eye-popping numbers, possibily the two All CAC teams will have 10 of the top 11-12 scorers in the conference if it is just a panel. You could see Williams get it, and nothing against him, but I just do not see him in the same category as your McGowans...Junghans....Bakers...etc..

If it is picked by a panel of the coaches in the CAC, you will see people who really deserve it. A player like Brad Zerfing from York who is constantly holding told scorers to way below their average, or a guy like Stephen Wheeler who dominates the paint for Catholic, or Ozi Menakeya from Salisbury who grabs every rebound possible. You will find players who make big-time effects on the game and for their teams will make the CAC teams.

I'm not sure how it is, and either or is correct, however it is picked, i can't really complain about the past few years really.......just I am going to give an example of my picks if I went with both ways, and you can see the difference


*My picks if based on a regular panel (no coaches)*

First Team All-CAC

Ray Williams - 22 ppg 3 apg
Chad McGowan - 22 ppg 8.5 rpg
Ryan Junghans - 20.5 ppg 91 FT%
Jesse Gutekunst - 18 ppg 10 ppg 2.5 bpg
James Russo - 19 ppg 2 spg

Second Team All-CAC

Scott Fumai - 17 ppg 6 rpg
Tyson Lesesne - 17 ppg 2.5 apg 2 spg
Mike Gray - 16.5 ppg 6 rpg
Sekoe White - 17 ppg 6 rpg
Pierre Jones - 16.5 ppg 7.5 rpg


POY - Williams, Gutekunst, McGowan ----- have to go with Gutekunst based on schere stats
ROY - Jonathan Valencia - 13 ppg 2 apg
COY - Tom Dickman

*My picks if based on a coaches panel*

First Team All-CAC

Chad McGowan - Where would York be without him...single handedly beat Salisbury
Ryan Junghans - Clutch FT shooting, best team ball handler, good passer, does it all for his team
Jesse Gutekunst - Dominates the middle by scoring, rebounding, blocked shots.....passes well also
Scott Fumai - Best big shot maker in the conference, knows how to win
Justin Baker - Mr. Versatile, does it all, any team gets 5 or 6 extra wins win him on their team

Second Team All-CAC

Patrick Dwyer - Brusier underneath, good leader, intimidating...just make some FT's huh?
Stephen Wheeler -  Underrated, is a big reason for some of Catholics big wins this year
Mike Gray - Can score, rebound, and isn't selfish in doing it
James Russo - What he does night in and night out is incredible, keeps a low-talented Goucher team in games
Ray Williams - Then there is Williams. Only reason he isn't a First Team pick....team stands and watches as he dances with the ball, forces some shots

POY - Baker, Gutekunst, McGowan--- take your pick..mine has to be Baker
ROY - Nick Brady - Can score, rebound and pass....just get the defense up
COY - Tom Dickman

See if you guy by nothing but stats, Justin Baker is not even brought into POY conversation, and he is a top 3 choice for that. You will notice my choices have changed in some aspects as before....but i guess that goes with the season......you never know what to expect...