MBB: Coast 2 Coast Athletic Conference

[Seahawk Pride]

Any chance that a CAC team will be regionally ranked in week one?  My guesses for rankings this week:

1. Dickinson
2. JHU
3. F & M
4. CUA
5. SMCM (assuming 2 wins this week)
6. Scranton
7. Stevenson

CNU would be in 5th without the SVU game.

Thoughts?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

FYI - only six teams will be ranked in the Mid-Atlantic Region now thanks to regional realignment.

[Seahawk Pride]

The Seahawks just added another game versus Alfred State next week to fill one of the two they lost over the break due to their tourny getting cancelled from snow.  Will the Alfred State game be a regional game?

[ronk]

The Seahawks just added another game versus Alfred State next week to fill one of the two they lost over the break due to their tourny getting cancelled from snow.  Will the Alfred State game be a regional game?

  Only games submitted on the school's original schedule will be considered for tournament selection(Pool C), so, since the regional rankings exist for tournament selection, one would think that the Alfred game will not be considered, in-region or not.

[ronk]

Any chance that a CAC team will be regionally ranked in week one?  My guesses for rankings this week:

1. Dickinson
2. JHU
3. F & M
4. CUA
5. SMCM (assuming 2 wins this week)
6. Scranton
7. Stevenson

CNU would be in 5th without the SVU game.

Thoughts?

  I'll take a shot at it after the games tonite. I see we're down to 4 conferences in the Mid-Atlantic now - Centennial, MAC-Commonwealth, CAC, and Landmark.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Here's an approximation of where things stand at the moment - he ranks to 40 places in each region.  These are obviously more accurate the closer you get to the end of the season, but those SOS number matter a lot.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

Alvernia has the highest in the region, so even at 11-7, they're going to have a place, I think.  At least they would right now.

We heard in Dave's interview with the national committee chair that they're looking at approximately .03 on the SOS equating to two wins.  If that holds up here, it would put Alvernia and Catholic in a virtual dead heat.

[Pat Coleman]

The Seahawks just added another game versus Alfred State next week to fill one of the two they lost over the break due to their tourny getting cancelled from snow.  Will the Alfred State game be a regional game?

  Only games submitted on the school's original schedule will be considered for tournament selection(Pool C), so, since the regional rankings exist for tournament selection, one would think that the Alfred game will not be considered, in-region or not.

And Alfred State is only in its second year as a provisional Division III member, so it shouldn't be considered anyway.

[ronk]

Any chance that a CAC team will be regionally ranked in week one?  My guesses for rankings this week:

1. Dickinson
2. JHU
3. F & M
4. CUA
5. SMCM (assuming 2 wins this week)
6. Scranton
7. Stevenson

CNU would be in 5th without the SVU game.

Thoughts?

  I'll take a shot at it after the games tonite. I see we're down to 4 conferences in the Mid-Atlantic now - Centennial, MAC-Commonwealth, CAC, and Landmark.

  1. Johns Hopkins(by virtue of head-head win over Dickinson)
  2. Dickinson
  3. Catholic
  4. Scranton
  5. F&M
  6. St.Mary's

[Seahawk Pride]

Big win last night at Mary Washington.  Shaw was unstoppable, but Laguere shut down Taylor Johnsonto balance out is outburst.  Laguere held Johnson to 5 points though the first 35 minutes of the game and ended up with 12.  Laguere is an absolute beast.  In my opinion it should be an easy conversation for POY in the CAC.  Salisbury is playing really well right now and knocked off CNU last night.  Seahawks host Frostburg on Saturday in a game that has huge playoff implications.

picks for Wednesday:
SMCM @ UMW =  SMCM 88-67
SU @CNU =   SU 82-79
SVU @ MMT =  MMT 70-65
YCP @ WC =  Wesley 82-60
FSU @ PSH  = FSU 67-59

I went 5/5 but some of my scores were terrible.  I should know that at this time of the year there aren't a ton of blowouts in the CAC.

Alvernia should have been in my first regional rankings group, but with their loss to Messiah it probably knocks them out anyway.

[Swish3]

Geez, how many games is CNU going to blow this season?  CNU played w/out their leading scorer and had to scratch and claw to stay w/in striking distance....long story short, Salisbury's point guard makes a miraculous circus shot to tie the game in regulation as time ran out.  Do our guys practice free throws?  Has anyone seen Tim Daly?  Feeling frustrated....  

[Seahawk Pride]

Sounds like an amazing ending to regulation.  That brings up the old question.....do you foul down 3?

[Swish3]

Well, I think CNU did have a foul or two to give, which is unusual, but they didn't do it....personally, I'm not sure that strategy is beneficial.  I guess the idea is to interrupt the other team's possession, but that would also allow them to set up an out of bounds play.  I think you just let 'em play and let the chips fall....I'm sure others would disagree.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Here's an approximation of where things stand at the moment - he ranks to 40 places in each region.  These are obviously more accurate the closer you get to the end of the season, but those SOS number matter a lot.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

Alvernia has the highest in the region, so even at 11-7, they're going to have a place, I think.  At least they would right now.

We heard in Dave's interview with the national committee chair that they're looking at approximately .03 on the SOS equating to two wins.  If that holds up here, it would put Alvernia and Catholic in a virtual dead heat.

... and of course considering all of the other data and criteria in play. He was just comparing two of them side-by-side... the two that get the most attention. Let's not forget other details... like Catholic actually only has two regional/Division III losses. There is also common opponents and down the road vRRO (not next week, though).

Also, Jeff Burns did say that .03 is two "games" (not necessarily two wins) and that it doesn't automatically translate to .06 being four games.

The Seahawks just added another game versus Alfred State next week to fill one of the two they lost over the break due to their tourny getting cancelled from snow.  Will the Alfred State game be a regional game?

  Only games submitted on the school's original schedule will be considered for tournament selection(Pool C), so, since the regional rankings exist for tournament selection, one would think that the Alfred game will not be considered, in-region or not.

Not that an exception can't be made and approved by the committee when a team loses two games due to circumstances outside of their control. The point is mute here as the game doesn't matter in the long run any way (won't count towards criteria or SOS - which is a good thing, because otherwise this is an unwise decision by SMC - it would kill their SOS).

Any chance that a CAC team will be regionally ranked in week one?  My guesses for rankings this week:

1. Dickinson
2. JHU
3. F & M
4. CUA
5. SMCM (assuming 2 wins this week)
6. Scranton
7. Stevenson

CNU would be in 5th without the SVU game.

Thoughts?

  I'll take a shot at it after the games tonite. I see we're down to 4 conferences in the Mid-Atlantic now - Centennial, MAC-Commonwealth, CAC, and Landmark.

  1. Johns Hopkins(by virtue of head-head win over Dickinson)
  2. Dickinson
  3. Catholic
  4. Scranton
  5. F&M
  6. St.Mary's

I disagree with JHU being ahead of Dickinson based on their head-to-head. I am not sure that one game would trump a difference in .05 in the SOS (Dickinson: .551 / JHU: .504 based on Tuesday's numbers).

[CNU85]

Geez, how many games is CNU going to blow this season?  CNU played w/out their leading scorer and had to scratch and claw to stay w/in striking distance....long story short, Salisbury's point guard makes a miraculous circus shot to tie the game in regulation as time ran out.  Do our guys practice free throws?  Has anyone seen Tim Daly?  Feeling frustrated....

That was an ugly game. CNU was 5-14 from the line!!!!!!!! WTH? Just go 6-14 and we win the game in regulation. I had court side seats. Something was off with Cherry for that game. Even his passes were not crisp like they usually are. I wonder if he was sick, or just had an off game. It wasn't like him at all. Having injuries is hurting us since we are so young. We have 1 Sr and 1 Jr suiting up. The rest are So and Fr. To have the record we have is pretty good considering the circumstances. Weatherell is missing games due to concussion. Now Carter is hurt. Not sure what has happened to Daly. If I recall properly, he was leading scorer before the winter break at about 16 ppg.

On the positive side, I like what I see on the bench. Burrows has stepped up HUGE! Logan Miller is getting good minutes. McFarland is playing at the level Carter was. I can see Regimbal being a team leader. Brown is fast and intense on the court. Plays hard. I really like this team, even though they are struggling right now!

[Seahawk Pride]

Thank you for the clarification Dave.  I was concerned that the newly-added Alfred State could potentially damage SMCMs strength of schedule, so I was happy to see that it would not.  Every game is a big one down the stretch.  Here are my picks for tomorrow:

WC @ CNU - CNU 76-74
YCP @ MMT - MMT 72-65
FSU @ SMCM - SMCM 86-69
UMW @ SU - SU 73-69
PSUH @ SVU - SVU 75-72

A few tough games to pick there.  I wavered with UMW @ SU, but I ended up picking SU because they were home.  Both teams are playing well right now.  Look for WC to try to pull the upset, but again I went with the home team to hold in a really close game.  SVU vs Harrisburg should be a fun game of two teams that play really hard for a full 40 minutes.  I am not looking forward to playing them on the final day of the season....  Any predictions?