MBB: Coast 2 Coast Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

I'm not going to tell you to not voice your frustrations! Welcome to the board.

[mailsy]

Well JohnyHoops it'll be nice for someone else to post on the "mailsy" board next year on the AEC child board. Welcome aboard!

[CNU85]

Congrats to Aaron. I've met him a few times. What an amazing person as well. Very personable and a great attitude about life in general!

http://cnusports.com/news/2018/3/15/mens-basketball-aaron-mcfarland-named-first-team-all-america-by-national-association-of-basketball-coaches.aspx

[CNU85]

FYI - this could spell disaster for the CAC: http://thebottomlinenews.com/fsu-athletic-conference-affiliation-from-the-cac-to-the-mountain-east/

Interesting read. Thanks Dave!

[Swish3]

Congrats to Aaron. I've met him a few times. What an amazing person as well. Very personable and a great attitude about life in general!

http://cnusports.com/news/2018/3/15/mens-basketball-aaron-mcfarland-named-first-team-all-america-by-national-association-of-basketball-coaches.aspx

Aaron's racked up a lot of nice awards/distinctions...very deserving...congrats to him!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

FYI - this could spell disaster for the CAC: http://thebottomlinenews.com/fsu-athletic-conference-affiliation-from-the-cac-to-the-mountain-east/

Interesting read. Thanks Dave!

I know for a fact this has the conference nervous. I also know that one paragraph is the most difficult thing I have read in a long time. We are supporting the CAC and looking into DII. SMH

[Swish3]

The ODAC would be a nice fit for CNU, w/the only exception being that they're a state school, so I don't think that would ever happen...that said, I could see Mary Washington, Salisbury, St. Mary's and CNU potentially forming a conference, but finding three other members for an aq would likely be tough.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The ODAC would be a nice fit for CNU, w/the only exception being that they're a state school, so I don't think that would ever happen...that said, I could see Mary Washington, Salisbury, St. Mary's and CNU potentially forming a conference, but finding three other members for an aq would likely be tough.

No chance. If that was possible, CNU would have joined the ODAC a long time ago.

The problem with your theory on UMW, SAL, SMC, and CNU is simple... it already exists. They are in a conference together... forming another one does nothing for them. I don't see them enticing anyone away from the ODAC at this time. The USA South isn't going to have any I think, especially considering distance. The CAC needs to save itself and they do probably have to start looking further outside of their footprint - which makes it both interesting and complicated.

[Swish3]

The ODAC would be a nice fit for CNU, w/the only exception being that they're a state school, so I don't think that would ever happen...that said, I could see Mary Washington, Salisbury, St. Mary's and CNU potentially forming a conference, but finding three other members for an aq would likely be tough.

No chance. If that was possible, CNU would have joined the ODAC a long time ago.

The problem with your theory on UMW, SAL, SMC, and CNU is simple... it already exists. They are in a conference together... forming another one does nothing for them. I don't see them enticing anyone away from the ODAC at this time. The USA South isn't going to have any I think, especially considering distance. The CAC needs to save itself and they do probably have to start looking further outside of their footprint - which makes it both interesting and complicated.

If those four were all that was left of the CAC, I realize a name change would not benefit them...I was thinking in terms of the state supported schools sticking together and looking for other similar institutions to join them, and I think the only direction to potentially find 'em would be north.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The ODAC would be a nice fit for CNU, w/the only exception being that they're a state school, so I don't think that would ever happen...that said, I could see Mary Washington, Salisbury, St. Mary's and CNU potentially forming a conference, but finding three other members for an aq would likely be tough.

No chance. If that was possible, CNU would have joined the ODAC a long time ago.

The problem with your theory on UMW, SAL, SMC, and CNU is simple... it already exists. They are in a conference together... forming another one does nothing for them. I don't see them enticing anyone away from the ODAC at this time. The USA South isn't going to have any I think, especially considering distance. The CAC needs to save itself and they do probably have to start looking further outside of their footprint - which makes it both interesting and complicated.

If those four were all that was left of the CAC, I realize a name change would not benefit them...I was thinking in terms of the state supported schools sticking together and looking for other similar institutions to join them, and I think the only direction to potentially find 'em would be north.

Well... not sure where Southern Virginia would be leaving to at this point; PSU-Harrisburg is also a state school and also not sure where they would depart to at this point; York is certainly a floater at this point and could leave.

My point is... I don't think it will end up just as those four unless something radical happened and they left to create a new conference with other schools... but I don't see that happening. They certainly won't be left alone.

[Swish3]

The ODAC would be a nice fit for CNU, w/the only exception being that they're a state school, so I don't think that would ever happen...that said, I could see Mary Washington, Salisbury, St. Mary's and CNU potentially forming a conference, but finding three other members for an aq would likely be tough.

No chance. If that was possible, CNU would have joined the ODAC a long time ago.

The problem with your theory on UMW, SAL, SMC, and CNU is simple... it already exists. They are in a conference together... forming another one does nothing for them. I don't see them enticing anyone away from the ODAC at this time. The USA South isn't going to have any I think, especially considering distance. The CAC needs to save itself and they do probably have to start looking further outside of their footprint - which makes it both interesting and complicated.

If those four were all that was left of the CAC, I realize a name change would not benefit them...I was thinking in terms of the state supported schools sticking together and looking for other similar institutions to join them, and I think the only direction to potentially find 'em would be north.

Well... not sure where Southern Virginia would be leaving to at this point; PSU-Harrisburg is also a state school and also not sure where they would depart to at this point; York is certainly a floater at this point and could leave.

My point is... I don't think it will end up just as those four unless something radical happened and they left to create a new conference with other schools... but I don't see that happening. They certainly won't be left alone.

Yes, I forgot about PSU-Harrisburg, which would make five...I wonder if Rowan and Stockton could be lured away from the NJAC?  It's doubtful, but w/them being in southern NJ, their location wouldn't be too bad....

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Maybe, but doubtful with Rowan (who has been talking about loftier plans for YEARS)... and no for Stockton. I've discussed this with some people and I don't think those schools are where the CAC or those institutions should be looking.

[CNU85]

Maybe, but doubtful with Rowan (who has been talking about loftier plans for YEARS)... and no for Stockton. I've discussed this with some people and I don't think those schools are where the CAC or those institutions should be looking.

The entire thing is tricky for Va public schools. Unless you are D-1. Not many public D3 schools. Plenty of private. D2 isn't really an option either except for Conference Carolinas which is slightly better than the USA South for CNU as far as footprint. But that's not going to happen. In the sports CNU has, that would mean 160 scholarships. (with room and board that's about $4 million annually). CIAA is not an option either.

There are smarter folks than me working on this issue. They will figure out something workable.

[Swish3]

Maybe, but doubtful with Rowan (who has been talking about loftier plans for YEARS)... and no for Stockton. I've discussed this with some people and I don't think those schools are where the CAC or those institutions should be looking.

The entire thing is tricky for Va public schools. Unless you are D-1. Not many public D3 schools. Plenty of private. D2 isn't really an option either except for Conference Carolinas which is slightly better than the USA South for CNU as far as footprint. But that's not going to happen. In the sports CNU has, that would mean 160 scholarships. (with room and board that's about $4 million annually). CIAA is not an option either.

There are smarter folks than me working on this issue. They will figure out something workable.

Is this a hot topic right now, knowing the potential issue CNU faces?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

It is an important topic to be sure. I've talked to people in and out of the CAC... it is on the forefront of everyone's minds and well before FSU's latest "news."