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kitchenrat

I haven't seen an up and down game with that little over all D in a while, that said I have to say that Kenny Fass did an amazing job on Mike Lee. Most of Lee's 17 points came when Fass either wasn't on the floor or was peeled off by a non called moving screen. I am not a person who bitches about officiating much but in this game it was AWFUL. At one point the refs called a Tech on ast Coach Dean Gamber for clapping his hands together to loudly and jumping out of his seat after a bad call. I'm not exaggerating, either, he didn't say a word but got teched up any way. There were some terrible missed offensive fouls in addition to the total lack of an understanding of what a walk is that we all have come to expect from the CAC refs.
   There were spurts where it looked like UMW might get on a big run but York came up with some big plays to steam the tide. McGowan had two big blocks, and Fass had three huge steals all at very opportune times, to get the team fired up. I can't say enough about those two in this game. Chad had 32 points including two huge break away 2-1 dunks and 7 boards. Kenny had a great all around line of 19 pts 8 boards those 3 steals and two assists, in addition to being all over Lee all day.
   Singer got some early fouls and at one point Coach Gamber had a team of 2's and 3's on the floor with McGowan and Singer sitting so there was a lot of inside points for the Eagles. Even when the big fellas were out there the focus didn't seam to be on denying looks from down low and I don't know what to attribute that to.
   In the end York seamed to have more steam, however, and they worked a great rotation and kept everyone fresh. It was a great effort by all the players. The guys who get less minutes all played great like Quinn Howard who had 8 pts 4 pts 4 assts and a Steal in just 14 minutes. I know a lot of the games that are left are away from the Kitchen but I saw a team who really got amped up following a close road loss and I think they can carry that into the coming games.
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bisonpride

Gallaudet BEAT Catholic, 65-62 for first win over Catholic since 1996!!!!!!!  ;D

PS- Stats will come up soon..

Pat Coleman

After seeing them Wednesday I can't say I'm overly surprised.
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unreallawns

Congrats to Salisbury who is now tied atop the conference.  Again, Salisbury is playing very well at home this year (7-0).  The CAC seems to be wide open.

Matt Letourneau

#665
Congrats to the Bison for their first win over Catholic in 10 years.  They did a great job creating a hostile atmosphere for Catholic to come into, and Haney played a great game.

I particularly give them credit for the last 5 minutes of the game, where they played great defense and confused Catholic, who couldn't get their plays off.  They deserve all the credit in the world for that.

Gally did a great great job of taking the ball to the basket consistantly and getting to the line almost every trip down the trip.  Hey, if the officials are going to call it, keep doing it, and I don't blame them one bit.

Before that, well, lets just say I've never seen Cardinal fans so angry and frustrated at the way a game went.  There were so many bogus calls and non-calls I don't know where to begin and I don't feel like getting into it right now--plus.   I'll restrain myself to the three worst.

.  Catholic has two players at the scorer's table to sub in.  They hit 2 free throws.  Gally then takes the ball, inbounds it and runs their play.  No sub in from the officials, no buzzer, nothing.  Steve Howes walks over to the scorers table pointing at his players that were supposed to be subbed in and trying to get the official's attention.  They stop the game, and promptly call a TECH on him.  They said he walked out of the coach;s box!!!  Now, the rule is that if you walk onto the court, its a tech.  He didn't do that.  What is he supposed to do in that situation?  The table and the ref's screwed up, he had two guys he wanted to sub out--how is he supposed to do that without getting the ref's attention?  That was a BS technical foul.  Oh, mind you, they admitted they screwed up and should have subbed in, but...that gave Gally 2 points and posession. Wonderful.

Or how about Gally on a break away, with Kelly not far behind him, makes a play for the ball on the layup, actually knocks the ball loose---and gets called for an intentional foul.  Catholic was either leading or tied at that point, I turned to my wife and said there was absolutely no way we could win this game.  Catholic could half morphed into Wittenberg and they couldn't have won with calls like that.  It was a clean play--a foul, sure, but he went for the ball.

Sowden was held to 20 minutes,  Dwyer 24 because they both had tickey tack fouls called on them on the Gally drives.  Both of them sat for most of the first half, and then Dwyer was called for probably the worst call of the whole game...he rebounds the ball, has 3 Gally players trying to strip it for him.  Takes a step away from the basket, and is promptly called for an offensive foul.  Nobody even bothered flopping.  So that took him out of the game.  Oh, sorry, I said 3, but the end of the half, Satalin hits a shot on a great drive.  AFTER the shot falls and Gally is getting set to inbound, whistle blows--offensive foul (3rd on Satalin), offensive foul, no basket.  Huge momentum killer.  There is no way it was a charge.  There was contact in there, but he didn't initiate anything. 

Well I think I hit my three worst calls, so I'll stop now.  This was the worst crew in the league, anyway---I knew that going in so I shouldn't be surprised.  Lead ref is the old old one, his sidekick was flat top (he's the worst). 

But with all of that, Gally still played a great 5 minutes of basketball at the end of the game, and that's why the won.  So good for them, they've been waiting to beat Catholic for a long, long time.   There were still some plays Catholic could have made at the end that would have kept them from losing, despite what they had faced.  But I don't think this team is good enough to withstand so many minutes from 2nd or in some cases (Josh Mish) 3rd team players, shoot so poorly from the free throw line and beat a decent team.  Gally is certainly a decent team.  Catholic outshot, outrebounded them, but York just did that to Catholic, too.  And they both got the same thing out of it.

sunny

Quote from: Matt Letourneau on January 21, 2006, 08:37:25 PMOr how about Gally on a break away, with Kelly not far behind him, makes a play for the ball on the layup, actually knocks the ball loose---and gets called for an intentional foul.  

I have seen a lot more flagrant fouls called on plays on the ball this season.  The officials seem to be focused (was it a point of emphasis this year?) on being very strict on the "excessive contact" rule.  Unfortunately, it's a tougher judgment call in most cases than simply whether or not someone went for the ball.  Most of the flagrants I've seen this season were anything but - they were simply hard, but not dirty, fouls where a player went for the ball.

I understand it's being called to protect the players, but I think calling more of the shoving, jockeying, pushing, grabbing, elbowing, etc., that goes on under the basket would do more to protect the players than slapping the flagrant tag on fouls that are anything but.

bisonpride

#667
Matt.. Yeah I got to agree with you.. the referees aren't that great at the early first half, mid-way and down to the stretch toward the end of the game.. But one team got to win.. It's still a great and hard fought game for both of the teams despite some of the bad calls that is and/or isn't go toward to either sides. We got to live and move it on.. I think most of all, Gallaudet played a great last 5 minutes for BOTH halves. The reason I say both halves since in the first half, CUA was up by 6 in 4:59 remaining before Gally went on 10-4 run to tied it 31 apiece at halftime. It's Andrew Baker, not Josh Mish, who was 51% FT shooter during the season that went 5-10 tonight from the FT line.. Mish only had one attempt from the line and went 0-1.

bbald eagle

Lots of off the ball fouls called in the York/UMW game tonight in the first 3/4 of game. Most I've ever seen.
Close game. Hard fought & high scoring York victory.
At a little more than 4 minutes left, UMW's Lee turned it over just over half court when hit from behind and then flattened from the front. No call. York got a break away dunk. Then at a little over 2 minutes, York inbounded under UMW basket & broke a player long for another uncontested jam. They were both key baskets.
At about 1:20, UMW inbounded under its own basket. Perfect lob into the middle of the lane. But there wasn't one Eagle in the lane, only Spartans.
Except for Lee, Eagles struggled at line at the end of the game.

bisonpride

#669
From the Field House..

Gallaudet win over Catholic, 65-62, for 1st time since 1996!!!

Catholic Cardinals - 62
@ Gallaudet Bison - 65
Halftime: Tied 31 apiece

The Gallaudet Bison (9-7, 3-3) won over it's own neighborhood, the Catholic University Cardinals (12-4, 4-2) at home by the score of 65-62 in a hot and intense game. It was a close game all the way from the begin to the end of the game, there are several lead changes and tie for both sides. I would say that's what a true rivalry game is like.. I would draw that game almost similar compare to the Georgetown-Duke game at the MCI Center earlier today. There's a beautiful and thunderous dunks by Frank Jackson and Patrick Dwyer in back to back possessions in early first half that exciting and quiet the fans for both sides on the stand.

Catholic:
Satalin - 22 points (7-12 FG, 5-8 3FG, 3-5 FT)
Fumai - 8 points, 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists
Dwyer - 7 points, 4 rebounds and 2 steals
Sowden - 6 points (all in 2nd Half), 6 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 blocks in 20 minutes
Baker - 5 points (5-10 FT) and 7 rebounds

Gallaudet:
Haney, Jr. - 19 points (7-15 FG, 5-5 FT) and 6 rebounds in 35 minutes
Weedon - 13 points (3-4 3FG)
Johnson - 9 points
Jackson - 6 points and 5 rebounds
Mowl - 6 points, 5 assists and 3 steals in 36 minutes

Game Stats:
Field Goal: CUA - 44.2%, GU - 37.7%
3-Point FG: CUA - 46.7% (7-15), GU - 33.3% (4-12)
Free-Throw: CUA - 63% (17-27), GU - 70% (21-30)
Assists: CUA - 14, GU - 14
Rebounds: CUA - 11/24 = 35, GU - 13/18 = 31
Turnovers: CUA - 25, GU - 16
Highest Lead: CUA - 7 points (Twice), GU - 8 points
Tied: 8 times

Note: Gallaudet's first win against Catholic University Men's Basketball team since 1995-1996 season.

The Bison (9-7, 3-3) will host the #8 in the nation, York Spartans at the Field House. Meanwhile, on the other side, Catholic (12-4, 4-2) will host Salisbury Seagulls at the DuFour Center. Which Catholic is 7-0 at home, opposite to 4-4 on the road games.

muchacho

Didn't catch the Catholic-Gallaudet game, but from the stats it looks like the game was decided by Catholic's 25 turnovers. Thats a lot of missed opportunities in a 40 minute game. From anybody who was there, what was the problem with Catholic turning the ball over.

And Matt...you mentioned that Sowden and Dwyer were in foul trouble and didn't play a lot of minutes, but Sowden only had 3 fouls and still played just 20 minutes. There is no way that he should be getting just 4 shots in a game with the type of talent that he has. I wonder if there is anything going on with him besides Howes just wanting to shake things up by having him come off the bench. A 1st team All CAC player who averaged 15.5 and 7, as well as leading the conference in blocks and field goal percentage last year should not be coming off of the bench, and shoud definitely get more minutes and touches than what he has been getting.
Maybe there is something going on with the team that I don't know about, but if the handling of Sowden right now is simply strategic, than I think Coach Howes is making a big mistake.

Matt Letourneau

#671
No, to my knowledge there isn't anything going on.  In today's game, Shane picked up 2 quick fouls in just under 5 minutes.   He played 15 of the 20 minutes in the 2nd half---as much as any player of his caliber would.   CUA simply couldn't get him the ball--same as the York game.  Gally collapsed inside.

Against York, that resulted in Dwyer getting a lot of touches and points instead of Shane.  Today, though, Dwyer was in even worse foul trouble.  He picked up his 3rd on that bogus charge call in the first minute of the half and ended up playing the last 7 minutes (crunch time) with 4 fouls.  He wasn't aggressive, at all, but the way this game was called, he couldn't be.  The officials were calling offensive fouls on positioning so easily, I don't think there was really all that much Catholic could have done inside.  But believe me, they were trying, and Shane was in there.   The York game was just Shane not being selfish.  York was all over him, but that allowed Patrick to have single coverage and that's why he got 27 points.

As for Shane not starting, well, up until today, it was working.  It allows either Dwyer or Sowden to be on the floor--without one of those two, CUA starts to struggle on offense.  I don't know which one of those you bench, but Dwyer has been really playing great, so...everyone knows how good Shane is, personally I think it says a lot about it that's he accepting this role.  Same with Aaron Kelly.  From what I hear, this team is getting along very well and there aren't hard feelings about who is starting, etc.  With the guard situation the way it is, all of a sudden Catholic has the best backup PG in the conference in Waslienko.

Sunny, you're right on the hard foul calls this year, but this wasn't even that hard of a foul.  Not the hardest of this game, that's for sure.  This was just an overzealous ref who was making huge calls like that the whole game and had no clue.

Pride, yeah, somebody's gotta win.  As I say, the Gally fans deserve to be celebrating this one and I don't begrudge them that.  I can't wait to get them to DuFour with a different crew because I have a feeling its going to be a lot different result, but...that's why we play the games.  Upset city today anyway.  I mean, it isn't like I can blame this on officiating because Catholic had a chance at the end, but man, all these calls, extra shots (tech and intentional fouls), missed minutes, etc, add up. 

4 way tie for 1st in the CAC.  First time I remember that.


ycp

Sorry I didn't post details earlier, I guess I got busy and forgot.

The Spartans received a career-high 32 points from Chad McGowan as he hit 12-for-23 from the floor and 7-for-8 from the free throw line. He added seven rebounds and two blocked shots in his 31 minutes of work. Kenny Fass was outstanding as he tallied 19 points while he also pulled down a team-high eight rebounds. He also had three big steals and a pair of assists as his defensive effort was superb. Brandon Bushey was the third Spartan in double figures with 14 points. Paddy Lee chipped in with a game-high eight assists while he also had six points, two rebounds and two steals. Quinn Howard came off the bench and played 14 valuable minutes as he tallied eight points, four rebounds, and four assists.
Mary Washington placed all five starters in double figures led by Jon Pierce as he had 30 points and nine rebounds. Pierce was 12-for-18 from the floor including 4-of-7 from distance. Mike Lee, Justin Baker and Kiernan Whitworth each tallied 17 points for the Eagles. Lee added four assists and three rebounds while Baker recorded six rebounds and six assists for UMW. Whitworth was 6-for-8 from the field including 4-of-5 from three. Matt Treacy was the fifth Eagle in double figures with 10 points. The Eagles received just two points of the bench as the starters combined to tally 91 points.
The two teams shot the ball extremely well from the floor for the game. Mary Washington converted 55.7% of their attempts from the field while York shot 52.1% from the floor. The Eagles were sizzling from downtown as they nailed 14-of-26 (53.8%) from three while York was a pedestrian 9-for-24 (37.5%) from distance. The Spartans out-rebounded their guests 38-31 while they also handed out 23 assists while they had just 13 turnovers. York attempted 10 more shots from the floor than UMW.

It was really a fun college basketball game and, as today has proven yet again, every game in this league is a hard, 40-minute battle. There aren't any teams in this league that can't beat another team on any given night. Today was two teams slugging it out.
Mary Washington shot the ball really well from the perimeter and Brian Singer, the Spartan center, was in foul trouble almost from the opening tap. After a so-so first half, McGowan exploded in the second half and ended up with a career day. Fass's defensive effort is one of the most overlooked part of the Spartan squad as he made life tough on a talented Mike Lee. He also guarded Justin Baker and did a nice job when he was on him.
The green and white will really need to be ready for another tough game on Wednesday at Gallaudet. The Bison always play the Spartans tough and I am sure Wednesday will be no different.

ronk

Kitchenrat,
       A friend of mine reffed the umw-ycp game yesterday(as well as both games last year) and I haven't seen a better ref than him in d3 in 40 years of watching this level. I'll chose his judgment and knowledge of what's a violation over yours.

coach t

In the Gallaudet win over Catholic, I give credit to Point Guard Mowl for controlling the tempo of the game and playing hard nosed defense. The guard, in his first year, led the seniors in 36 minutes of play controlling the game while in past years, Gallaudet would blow leads.

It was a good game. There were bad calls on both sides of the ball so we can say that the refs were consistently bad.