MBB: Coast 2 Coast Athletic Conference

[Goose_13]

CNU was embarrassed yesterday at ODU...according to the box score, Ellis, Gibbs and McFarland didn't play, which makes me feel a little bit better.  I also noticed a lot of new names for the Captains...wish they'd update their roster!

Need to get on those guys in the Athletic Communication Department!! LOL Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't post it until a bit closer to the season opener. IDK why, but a lot of coaches like to keep their rosters close to the vest!

[Goose_13]

I may have misread the posts so take don't take too much offense to this! LOL But wasn't Private vs. Public a HUGE point of contention when CNU was in the Dixie/USA South? I know I remember "hearing" rumblings of this quite a bit during my tenure at CNU, as they were the only public school in the conference. I though the move to the CAC would definitely be more beneficial in many ways, with this being one of them, as they would be moving to a conference with more public schools. Obviously that has changed in the years since. Here's my question, have any of you guys (i.e. Pat, Dave, etc) heard any more rumblings on the conference changes front since that article was posted. I only ask out curiosity, as I don't have any "ties" to any of the teams other than being an alum and fan. I still can't over the possibility of the amount of changes that are/could be coming. Don't get me wrong, I like hearing about these things off the top, more so when it doesn't necessarily have any impact on my favorite team. I still would love to know where CNU could end up if the CAC dissolves. We know they aren't going back to the USA South, nor will they go to the ODAC. Can't go south or west, only option is north as I see in my lack of knowledge vision on this. Could it be one of the MAC conferences, Centennial, Landmark? To me those are the most logical and could provide a competitive balance, of course football could be an issue. Or do they go as far as recruit some schools and make their own conference. I am spitballing here guys and rambling I know. I am still trying to wrap my brain around all this! Thanks for listening, or in this case, reading, my rant!!

Private v Public is a constant debate and topic of conversation whenever conferences are discussed. Comes up every time I talk to anyone about it. It is just ingrained. There are fallacies and legitimate challenges to the relationships. I also think there is some unfounded theories and fears from both sides depending on the situation. My favorite is when a school says they have a recruiting disadvantage to a public school and feel moving conferences changes that. Last I checked, the schools aren't physically moving themselves, thus the locations of schools and the recruiting challenges remain.

Not following exactly what you are asking when it comes to conference changes and the article we posted in June. While there hasn't been anything official from that new conference, that move is coming. The CSAC released a statement over the summer detailing their moves moving forward once five of their institutions leave the nest. Why the new conference hasn't said anything official is unknown. I do think we may have snuffed out their thunder (I was told by several sources they were days away from announcing it when we published). I also was told from a source that one school's president told their school that they were waiting for the NCAA to approve the conference (something that has never stopped an announcement in the past; it is a rubber stamp thing for the most part). I am told they still don't have a name, colors, etc., so I am really not sure why all the delays.

If you are talking about more changes, there are some rumors I am hearing, but I am not at all about to start throwing them around. Southern Virginia was a linchpin for the CAC. If they had gone full-time to the ODAC, it would have caused major problems. I just didn't see York (PA) staying put after that and the CAC would have been left with very few teams. However, SVU is staying put outside of football (which will move from the NJAC to the ODAC). That leaves some stability with the CAC. It remains to be seen what York does, but there is less fear of being left alone in the CAC than there was beforehand.

As far as CNU goes, I think they are fine for now. If the CAC remains intact, they don't have to go anywhere. I would agree that they don't have a lot of options out there. I don't see the MAC working due to distance (Lycoming to CNU would be BRUTAL let alone FDU Florham to CNU). They do not fit with the Centennial nor the Landmark at all. The rest of the conferences outside the ODAC are never going to accept CNU on a competitive basis. ODAC is too large and if they wanted CNU they would have courted them during the process that brought in Ferrum. I am told CNU wasn't even part of that.

There technically is the NJAC, but that would have to change the NJAC so revolutionary wise to bring in CNU that I simply don't see it happening. I mention it only because you mentioned looking "north."

If the CAC dissolves for whatever reason, I suspect what will actually happen is the remnants of the CAC for the most part (not all parties) will probably look to form up with others possibly from the ODAC or elsewhere to create a new conference. However, that is so far off in terms of reality for what is going on now that it isn't worth really discussing or worrying about.

Dave,

I think you covered everything that was going through my brain during that "frantic" writing of my post LOL It's just one of those things where you can't really say or even speculate much until you hear some sort of an announcement come out on who's going where, or who will be in the new conference, officially that is. Just have to wait and see. I figured there weren't many options for CNU if more teams end up leaving the CAC than anticipated. Thank you for taking the time and explaining everything. For now, we will just have to focus on the present and not so much on the future.

[Swish3]

CNU was embarrassed yesterday at ODU...according to the box score, Ellis, Gibbs and McFarland didn't play, which makes me feel a little bit better.  I also noticed a lot of new names for the Captains...wish they'd update their roster!

Need to get on those guys in the Athletic Communication Department!! LOL Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't post it until a bit closer to the season opener. IDK why, but a lot of coaches like to keep their rosters close to the vest!

Yeah, they can be pretty lousy!

[CNU85]

CNU was embarrassed yesterday at ODU...according to the box score, Ellis, Gibbs and McFarland didn't play, which makes me feel a little bit better.  I also noticed a lot of new names for the Captains...wish they'd update their roster!

Need to get on those guys in the Athletic Communication Department!! LOL Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't post it until a bit closer to the season opener. IDK why, but a lot of coaches like to keep their rosters close to the vest!

Yeah, they can be pretty lousy!

I spoke to Coach K at the Field Hockey game Saturday night....he turned in the roster weeks ago!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

CNU was embarrassed yesterday at ODU...according to the box score, Ellis, Gibbs and McFarland didn't play, which makes me feel a little bit better.  I also noticed a lot of new names for the Captains...wish they'd update their roster!

Need to get on those guys in the Athletic Communication Department!! LOL Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't post it until a bit closer to the season opener. IDK why, but a lot of coaches like to keep their rosters close to the vest!

Yeah, they can be pretty lousy!

I spoke to Coach K at the Field Hockey game Saturday night....he turned in the roster weeks ago!

I do believe CNU has been rather successful in the fall campaigns - think I read they won every sports regular season or conference tournament (without looking it up)? That would keep an athletic communications department rather busy ahead of winter sports. Let's give them a bit of a break. It isn't like these rosters honestly mean anything until Nov. 15th or the first game anyway... and it isn't like they can't change six ways to Sunday throughout the season.

[CNU85]

CNU was embarrassed yesterday at ODU...according to the box score, Ellis, Gibbs and McFarland didn't play, which makes me feel a little bit better.  I also noticed a lot of new names for the Captains...wish they'd update their roster!

Need to get on those guys in the Athletic Communication Department!! LOL Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't post it until a bit closer to the season opener. IDK why, but a lot of coaches like to keep their rosters close to the vest!

Yeah, they can be pretty lousy!

I spoke to Coach K at the Field Hockey game Saturday night....he turned in the roster weeks ago!

I do believe CNU has been rather successful in the fall campaigns - think I read they won every sports regular season or conference tournament (without looking it up)? That would keep an athletic communications department rather busy ahead of winter sports. Let's give them a bit of a break. It isn't like these rosters honestly mean anything until Nov. 15th or the first game anyway... and it isn't like they can't change six ways to Sunday throughout the season.

Haha.....there's more to it than that. PM me if you want details. But I sent an email to the AD about an hour ago....Swish - the roster is posted now!!!

[CNU85]

Tallest FR is 6'4". Hope these guys are fast! And we landed a kid from PA. How did that happen?

[Swish3]

Tallest FR is 6'4". Hope these guys are fast! And we landed a kid from PA. How did that happen?

Nice job, '85!  CNU likes to recruit a lot of wings...they're going to be lacking a quality big man this season...Marin is timid and Chappell is still developing.  That said, they'll be athletic and rely on transition and the perimeter...kind of reminds me of VA Wesleyan.  Coach K better have them shooting free throws...that cost 'em the Keene State game...well, and the fact that Daly shot one field goal...still trying to figure that one out.

GO CAPS!

[ronk]

Tallest FR is 6'4". Hope these guys are fast! And we landed a kid from PA. How did that happen?

I know the name; very interesting for the future.

[Swish3]

Tallest FR is 6'4". Hope these guys are fast! And we landed a kid from PA. How did that happen?

I know the name; very interesting for the future.

If I'm not mistaken, he transferred from Coastal Carolina...a stand out in football and basketball in PA...not sure how the connection came about.  It also looks like the roster is missing Dalon McHugh, an athletic transfer from Shenandoah....

[CNU85]

Tallest FR is 6'4". Hope these guys are fast! And we landed a kid from PA. How did that happen?

I know the name; very interesting for the future.

If I'm not mistaken, he transferred from Coastal Carolina...a stand out in football and basketball in PA...not sure how the connection came about.  It also looks like the roster is missing Dalon McHugh, an athletic transfer from Shenandoah....

Know anything about Brandon Edmond? He dropped 14 on ODU

[Swish3]

Tallest FR is 6'4". Hope these guys are fast! And we landed a kid from PA. How did that happen?

I know the name; very interesting for the future.

If I'm not mistaken, he transferred from Coastal Carolina...a stand out in football and basketball in PA...not sure how the connection came about.  It also looks like the roster is missing Dalon McHugh, an athletic transfer from Shenandoah....

Know anything about Brandon Edmond? He dropped 14 on ODU

Nah, other than he was a very good scorer in high school...keep an eye on this kid.

[Goose_13]

This might be one of the more smaller rosters I've seen since I started following CNU back in the late 90's. I am shocked at the lack of size. Is this a transition? (Rhetorically asked, tho please feel free to lay your thoughts out). Could also be they recruited taller kids and they decided to go elsewhere or didn't make the cut in the classroom. Just as surprised as you are to see someone from PA on the roster. Curious to see if there is anyone out there who can tell us a little bit about his previous experience. Six days away from tip.

CNU85, thanks for getting that taken care of so can can all have something else to talk about before the opener!!

[Goose_13]

Dave,

Just ready your article that included your ballot. Great read sir and great information about your teams. CNU can help its cause by winning their non-conference games. I didn't realize the CAC is down this year, so let's hope they take care of business in the CAC this yea and they can help their cause by beating the likes of RMC, VA Wesleyan, Catholic, etc and hope they do some damage in their respective conferences.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Thanks Goose. I don't see the CAC being less competitive in conference, but I don't think it will have the same national or regional impact it has had in the last few years. It is a temporary thing as everything ebbs and flows.