MBB: Coast 2 Coast Athletic Conference

[jesskleangda]

Agree.  The other ODAC losses don't look great.  Unfortunately, the Roanoke final score looks much worse than it really was.  UMW was up with about 4 minutes left.  Anyway - you are correct, the four losses are tough.  Saturday will be a big day for a shakeup of the conference standings.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Not only do they have four losses, but the losses cancel out the wins in the sense that the loss to Frostburg is the one that sticks in my craw. I don't mind the losses to the ODAC teams, but there isn't a win against those squads either - Guilford is the only significant win.

I'd argue the wins over Salisbury and CNU are overrated. Those teams probably shouldn't have been ranked - and I blame myself for giving Salisbury a small amount of love one week. When you have four losses, something has to stand out. Nothing about UMW's resume stands out that isn't canceled out with something else.

[Swish3]

Not only do they have four losses, but the losses cancel out the wins in the sense that the loss to Frostburg is the one that sticks in my craw. I don't mind the losses to the ODAC teams, but there isn't a win against those squads either - Guilford is the only significant win.

I'd argue the wins over Salisbury and CNU are overrated. Those teams probably shouldn't have been ranked - and I blame myself for giving Salisbury a small amount of love one week. When you have four losses, something has to stand out. Nothing about UMW's resume stands out that isn't canceled out with something else.

Hmm...Massey had Salisbury at #24 until they lost to York last night and currently has CNU at #18...D3hoops' current Top 25 has Salisbury at #24 and CNU at #18.  Now, as I've said, I think Salisbury's been playing over their heads and it's starting to show, but CNU's pretty solid...obviously, Salisbury will drop out of the Top 25, as they should, but based on their body of work prior to last night, they belonged...CNU still belongs.

[jesskleangda]

Swish - I agree.  CNU is as good or better than any other team UMW has played.  Based on having watched every UMW game, I would say only Washington and Lee is as good or better than CNU.  That doesn't necessarily speak well for UMW's other losses - but it does underscore the fact that UMW has improved significantly with the return of Drew Johnson, and should start to receive some top 25 consideration (assuming they are able to beat a good York team on Saturday).

[MW_Eagles]

Obviously the Frostburg loss is hurting MW, especially after Frostburg's performance last night.  In a weird way, I sort of wonder if the Frostburg loss was "good" for MW.  Not from a rankings perspective (obviously), but from a mental standpoint.   I think it kick started them to wake up for the tough games ahead.   I remember the Frostburg announcer saying, "UMW could be looking at an 0-3 start to the conference schedule."  Any word jesskleangda on Khiore Stewart?  Would be nice to add him back to the rotation for the back half of the season.   3 game home stretch coming up, let's go Eagles!

[jesskleangda]

MWE - I agree with your comments about the Frostburg loss.  The three ODAC losses are respectable, if you watched the games.  UMW was leading both the Lynchburg and Roanoke games in the last couple minutes.  That said, obviously a loss is a loss.  Voters obviously only see final score and make conclusions.

We can't forget that Johnson is still getting back into form and is playing better and better each game.  He was not around for the first approx. 10 games.

I am not certain about Stewart's timeline.

[CNU85]

Not only do they have four losses, but the losses cancel out the wins in the sense that the loss to Frostburg is the one that sticks in my craw. I don't mind the losses to the ODAC teams, but there isn't a win against those squads either - Guilford is the only significant win.

I'd argue the wins over Salisbury and CNU are overrated. Those teams probably shouldn't have been ranked - and I blame myself for giving Salisbury a small amount of love one week. When you have four losses, something has to stand out. Nothing about UMW's resume stands out that isn't canceled out with something else.

Hmm...Massey had Salisbury at #24 until they lost to York last night and currently has CNU at #18...D3hoops' current Top 25 has Salisbury at #24 and CNU at #18.  Now, as I've said, I think Salisbury's been playing over their heads and it's starting to show, but CNU's pretty solid...obviously, Salisbury will drop out of the Top 25, as they should, but based on their body of work prior to last night, they belonged...CNU still belongs.

Not to mention being 15-2 and having the 2nd best Defense in the nation in FG%. nah.....not top 25 worthy. Over rated.

[Swish3]

CNU climbs 3 spots to #15, while Salisbury and Mary Washington received 13 and 4 votes respectively...big game in Newport News tomorrow night against the Gulls!

GO CAPS!

[Swish3]

That was a close call for CNU last night, which I really wasn't expecting...Mary Washington escaped at home, as well...HUGE game at York on Saturday for the Captains!

[jesskleangda]

That was a close call for CNU last night, which I really wasn't expecting...Mary Washington escaped at home, as well...HUGE game at York on Saturday for the Captains!

No doubt.  York is always a very difficult place to play, and UMW in a rematch of its only conference loss.  A lot of basketball left.

[MW_Eagles]

Ugly game for UMW yesterday.   Hats off to Frostburg for shooting lights out.  Logjam at the top now.  UMW with a really tough week ahead with Salisbury and CNU on the road.

[CNU85]

well that was text book definition of "choke"

[Swish3]

Okay, so CNU goes up to York w/out their best player and outplays 'em until the very end...to be brutally honest, CNU absolutely, positively blew the game!  They were up 6 w/44 seconds to go and had the ball...somehow, some way, they managed to lose and miss a golden opportunity!  Here are the possessions w/44 seconds left:

CNU - turnover
York - layup and 1 (yes, CNU fouled)
CNU - turnover
York - layup
CNU - misses 2 free throws
York - layup

Not only did the Captains turn the ball over, they gave York three consecutive layups...how does that happen?!?!  Those are the kind of games you lose sleep over...ugh!

I'm a huge CNU fan, and always will be, but I'm going to tell it like it is, good or bad....

[Swish3]

well that was text book definition of "choke"

No doubt...I was typing my post when you posted that...CNU seemed to script and execute the perfect way to give York the game!

[Swish3]

If CNU wins tomorrow and Saturday, won't they likely be #1 in the MA next week?  Well, either them or Swarthmore, I would imagine....