MBB: Coast 2 Coast Athletic Conference

[mlb]

to The Bison

Congratulations!  Your team appears to be very competitive.  5-2 is 5-2.  Close losses to good teams indicates that the team has talent, it just has to learn how to close out a game. 

The conference is 22-6 outside the CAC (that excludes Goucher which is having an off year).  With Goucher, the record is still 22-11.

Playing in the conference is a "zero sum" game.  There is always one winner and one loser.  Outside the conference the teams are showing very well.  The message to the higher ranked teams in the conference is WATCH OUT!  Virtually any team in the conference can beat any other team on a given night.  There are no easy games.

When the CCIW schools beat up on each other and their records suffer, the pollsters discount the loss.  Right now the pollsters would rather vote for a team losing in one of the recognized conferences than to vote for a CAC team.  Losses in our conference hurt the standings. 

Everyone gets "up" to play in conference.  It's time for the CAC to look to dominate outside the conference and get some well deserved recongnition.

to The Bison - keep it up.  Inside the conference, you're an "enemy", outside, your an ally!

[Matt Letourneau]

Its true...I think people have a tendency to assume the grass is greener in other conferences. They discount the play that they are seeing night to night and assume somewhere else it is better.

But let's face it, very few of us can really see all that many teams play, especially in places like Wisconsin and Ohio.  We ASSUME those conferences are stronger than the CAC, and many years they are.  But MLB makes a good point--it is not looking like this is one of those years.  The early results are in, and the CAC is fairing very well outside the conference.

It stands to reason that the CAC would rise--CUA has been good for a long time, now York has gotten very good, and Mary Washington for the last few years has been good.  That has risen the level of competition.  In order for other teams to compete, teams that we consider to be 'lesser' teams in the conference (meaning only that they've finished 5-8) they've had to step it up, and I think they have.

Lets see how everybody does outside the conference in the next month or so, but I suspect that the results will still be pretty good. 

Catholic is down to 28 in that poll---we can argue about whether or not that's fair, I could easily make the counterpoint that they lost on the road to another team that received Top 25 votes and has been good so far.  But so far, CUA has played a pretty tough schedule--their opponents are 19-13.

[kitchenrat]

It looks like we may have a better understanding as to where the CAC stands against other conferences after the Spartans travel to Reading tomorrow to take on #19 Albright. The Lions have a very talented front court that helped them to more than 20 wins last year despite an early season loss at Bollman to York. In that game Trevor Deeter had 24 and 8 and held down the paint well. Singer and Seibert had 14 and 13 combined and in just his second college game McGowan had 8 and 4 but shot poorly. York got most of its points from the outside with 10 three's.
    McGowan is a much different player this year, and Bushy is still nursing his leg injury so there are pluses and minuses for YCP. Plus they also have been getting great minutes from Howard and Fry which should help them get the ball inside vs Deeter and that tough frontline of the Lions.
    York has never lost in three tilts vs Albright, and I hope they keep that up with a big road game at SSU coming up on Saturday. A win over a ranked (even lower ranked) MACC team should add more weight to our assertion that the CAC is a much stronger force to be dealt with now then in the mid 90's when many saw us as a cupcake.

[spartanfan]

It's been a while, but I'm back!  I've traveled the globe, and seen many a talented D3 teams play.  But I must say, noone, I repeat noone will hold the veterans of the tile down this year.  Looking forward to alumni weekend again this year (I just hope I can hold up with the added 20lbs)!!

[thenewmwc]

Final Score from Goolrick:

UMW - 91
Frostburg State - 82

The Eagles came out pretty strong in the first half, leading by 20 at the half, but then played way below their par.  Notables included freshman Matt Traecy and as always, Justin Baker who didn't meet his average 26.5 ppg from last week but still lead the team I'm sure.  Notables on Frostburg included Ryley and Owen.  Not a great win for the Eagles, but a win nonetheless.

[mwcsid]

Actually, Justin did meet his average, and then some...
31 points, ten boards. Another amazing effort.

Mike Lee 15, Kiernan Whitworth 12, Treacy 12, Fitzgerald eleven... Good balanced attack.

UMW was up 82-62 with 4:36 left, and FSU cut the deficit down against the reserves. Again, as was said, not pretty, but another W.

[BisonKiller]

The super duper mighty bisons are set to play Wesley tomorrow night.

Since Wesley is a one man team, Gallaudet should give Wesley a classic deaf whipping.  Then again avg. with just 200 fans, it might not be much of a "home advantage" for the fine mighty and proud Bisons.  Anyway, Gallaudet isnt much better with only 2 good players, Frankie and Ronnie.  If you look at their stats, after Frankie and Ronnie, there is a HUGE drop off.

Hopefully ol' Luther (Weedon) Campbell will contribute more than just putting out rap albums....

[muchacho]

Since Wesley is a one man team, Gallaudet should give Wesley a classic deaf whipping.

Call me sheltered, but I don't believe I've ever seen a classic deaf whipping.

[BisonKiller]

Since Wesley is a one man team, Gallaudet should give Wesley a classic deaf whipping.

Call me sheltered, but I don't believe I've ever seen a classic deaf whipping.

EXCATLY!!!  I haven't seen one either...perhaps tomorrow will be a first

[kitchenrat]

Bisonkiller, I could be wrong but your last few posts sounded an awful lot like crass trash talk that is in poor taste. Maybe you thought it was funny, or worse you thought you were giving the Student Athletes at Gally a complement but it came off as sour grapes. Im sure I was reading it wrong because no one comes here to be a Dick.

[BisonKiller]

Bisonkiller, I could be wrong but your last few posts sounded an awful lot like crass trash talk that is in poor taste. Maybe you thought it was funny, or worse you thought you were giving the Student Athletes at Gally a complement but it came off as sour grapes. Im sure I was reading it wrong because no one comes here to be a Dick.

poor taste?  actually I havent said anything in poor taste.... a little trash talk is what makes the forum a little more exciting and lively....

For those of you, who dont know.... "deaf whipping" (at home)....according to a former Gallaudet basketball player is:

- Loud fans banging/kicking the stands
- beating on objects may it be cans or drums
- throwing toliet paper rolls when they are disgusted by a ref's call
- being so loud that the other team cannot hear each other
- of course at the same time...beating their opponents

Will Wesley receive a deaf whipping tomorrow?  Who knows...its up to the team and their fans....

Calm down a bit KitchenRat, I understand your intentions were good and wholehearted.....

btw...McDonalds just called, they need help in the kitchen

[kitchenrat]

Bisonkiller, I know all about what it is like to play at Gallaudet having seen games threre and having played high school ball vs MKSD in New Jersey. I have heard the drums the stomping and the banging of symbols. It was hard to play there, and I take my hat off to the MKSD and Gallaudet fans for getting behind their team.
    On another note, having grown up in a diverse area of New Jersey i got a good lesson from my Father when i was a young man that it was not ok for me to use tearms that some of the other kids on my block used with one another. We all set our own bar, and that is where mine is set. I'm not telling you how to conduct your trash talk, just calling it like i see it.

[mwcsid]

UMW 93, Lancaster Bible 46

The University of Mary Washington men's basketball team made a school-record 19 three-point baskets in 45 attempts, also a record, in a 93-46 win over Lancaster Bible College on Wednesday night at Goolrick Gymnasium. Every player scored for the Eagles, who improve to 5-1 on the season.
Mike Lee led UMW with 14 points, eight rebounds, five steals, and four assists. Justin Baker was the only other Eagle in double figures with 13 points and eight rebounds. For the game, UMW shot 45.7% from the floor, and made 42.2% of their three-point attempts. UMW was also 10-11 from the free throw line.
The Eagles will be idle for finals until December 17, when they host Shenandoah University at 2 pm.

[mwgoonie]

Eagles looking good.
It took Mike Lee 6 games until he lead the team in scoring, and still has not scored more than 15.

[CLesesne]

Matt Letourneau

I was told by my son Tyson Lesesne of SMC what you said about him being a drug dealer. When Delaware State took action against Tyson because of marijuana found in his room, Tyson appealed their decision and won. He was reinstated but it was HIS CHOICE not to return to Delaware State. With Delaware State?s strict 0 No-Tolerance Drug Policy, why did they reinstate Tyson if they believed he was a so-called drug dealer that you are putting out there for people to feed off of? Before you put out words that serve no good, positive purpose, you should always ask yourself, is it true . . . is it needful . . . is it kind? The tongue has tremendous potential to bring judgement and all your tongue provided me was the evidence of what your heart really is. It is wrong to destroy a persons reputation through gossip. It can destroy people and gossip does nothing but feed chaos and confusion. Tyson came home after leaving Delaware State and worked hard to get back in school. He got a full time job at a bank, worked all day and went to community college at night, which he paid for to make up for the credits he needed because he lost so much time from school during the appeals process. It wasn?t easy. He worked steady until a few days before he left for SMC. So it wasn?t like he just ?took time off.? If SMC success this year has anything to do with Tyson, it is because he is a team player and anyone who knows Tyson or has played ball with Tyson, knows that it?s not about him but about the team as a whole. He has such a passion for the game, that you can see it in him and I?m sure his teammates feel the same passion he generates when they play out there together on the court. That is what makes Tyson such a good ball player and why SMC will be successful this year.