MBB: Coast 2 Coast Athletic Conference

[bisonpride]

Yeah I know that SAL is the further and longest of whole CAC for DC team.. That's why I say long not the longest trip.. Maybe you speed it up since DC to York accord to Mapquest and Yahoo Maps is around rough two hours.. Hope there's no police chase behind you.. watch out..

[Matt Letourneau]

Ha...not me.  Done lots and lots of driving...no tickets, no accidents.
Knock on (not Coach) wood.

Some on here (ahem D-Mac) may not believe it, but Catholic is actually still in contention for a Pool C bid.  According to the Quality of Win Index, they're ranked #59.  By the calculations of the folks over in the Pool C thread, right now Pool C bids would go to teams ranked in the #51-53 range.  (Oh--I'm kidding D-Mac).

So c'mon Cards---take care of business on the road and on senior day, and put yourselves in position to do something special.  Play for the front of the jersey.

[kitchenrat]

Congrats to Chad McGowan for picking up the CAC Player of the Week. He had three big games in three big wins, and I don't think we've heard the last of him this season.

Here is a guess on my part but who knows how it will end up. Kenny Fass is sitting on 899 points for his career (if i added right) and if York is able to get ahead in a game from here on out I think they may try and let him get a big total or two to help push him towards 1000. I know 101 is alot to get, but I remember a few years ago when the sparts kept getting the ball to Andy O'brien as he tryed to break the single game record (he ended up 6 shy) so maybe they will try and do something for a senior leader again this year.

[x33ycp]

WOW, host a regional?? That would be fantastic....I was just telling someone yesterday, that I wish they were in the new building this year, because then it would be certain.....Pat, if YCP wins out and finishes 26-2, and top 5 in country, how good are the chances they will host??......where might they have to travel for this years regional, if its not in York???

[Salem, VA]

Pat, Is there any chance of York having a bye...

I would love to Fass get 1000 points he is the most underrated player on the team.

[Pat Coleman]

It's possible York could get one of the five byes, yes. That would eliminate the need to worry about whether they could host a regional.

[John Rusnak]

Kitchen,

Based on York's performance in Salem last year and the quality (or lack thereof) of competition in the region, I think it's fair for people to say that York is overrated anywhere in the top 10...and possibly top 25.

[Pat Coleman]

Having seen York, I'm more than OK with them in the Top 25 and even in the Top 10. Where they are right now is a little too high for my tastes but right at No. 10 sounds about right.

[mwgoonie]

Yeah, for some reason York's ranking get inflated....but MW and CUA's traditional knock against then is their lack of strength of schedule. (Yes, I know MW played alot of early season games out of region and that Catholic played Davidson, etc)

But shouldn't the same knock be applied evenly throughout all the teams in the CAC?
And with qualities teams like YCP, MW, and CUA, shouldn't the CAC get some more respect (or is that reflected in YCP's rankings)...I guess it goes back to exposure issues, yada, yada.....

[Pat Coleman]

I think that is reflected in York's rank, yes. But a 13-9 team like Mary Washington isn't going to get any votes unless three of those losses are to D-I teams, a couple to Top 10 D-III teams and there are some Top 25 D-III wins in there. Six losses, where Catholic is, is tough. The York win would likely have them getting votes if they hadn't lost to Susquehanna and at home to Salisbury.

[manofgor24]

Fass is only underated to people who don't understand the game.  I think every coach in the league would love to have a Kenny Fass on their team.  He does everything from making shots to getting a big rebound and most importantly, gaurding the best players.   I love his toughness....you just cannot teach that.

[Matt Letourneau]

Pat--its only 5 losses to D3 teams!

But of course you're right, I'm just quibbling.

Catholic's not going to get any votes in the poll, but it is the at large bid that matters. 

I imagine the Gally loss hurts too in the poll, perhaps more than it should if only because I'm not sure that the rest of the country realizes how good Gally is this year.  They are used to them being a bottom-dwelling team, but this year clearly they are not.  I don't know if the voters are thorough enough to really know who is in 4th place in the CAC...

[Salem, VA]

To compare York to last year is unfair.  Last year they came out of no where to get to the Final Four.  This year they are focused and poised to make a run at the national championship.  To say they arent a top 10 team is unfair.  Yes there schedule is not the hardest but ask the Seahawks how that worked for them.  they are 49-6 in there last 55 games, That is just unbelievable!  Yea I am a Yorkie but this team looks different then last year, granted they are basicalyl the same starting 5 but they play harder and look like they have a chip on there shoulder. 

Anyway, the champagne is on ice for back-to-back CAC conference championships.

Let's Go York

[John Rusnak]

York is the same team they were last year.  They had a ridiculously easy draw that let them waltz into the final four.  The only reason they are "poised to make a run" is because people know who they are and everybody is watching them.

I am not saying they aren't a decent team.  In fact, I agree with Pat that 10 is probably fair, maybe somewhere in the 10-15 range.  But to say they are a top 4 team is definitely inflated.

We'll see how the brackets come out this year and then they will be given an opportunity to prove how far they can go.

[Akela15]

I dont think its fair that to say that York is overated because of what happened at the Final four last year.  No one was beating Stevens point no matter what because they were that good.  As for the other teams Rochester (national runner up), practically needed a buzzer beating three pointer to get past Calvin.  Then York fell in the third place game (which are always hard to play in, at any level) to Calvin who made 13 three pointers.  Returning 5 of you tope 6 players is reason enough to be ranked highly in the preseaon polls, and they have not dissappointed yet, with their only 2 losses being on a made buzzer beater (Salisbury) and missed buzzer beater (Catholic).

And regarding their schedule they have played most of the top teams in the region.  They have beaten Ursinus (#3 in region), split with Catholic (#7) and beat Messiah (#8).  They beat Albright @ Albright (made the NCAA tourny last year) by 18 early in the year.  Since it is so hard to travel in division III they are trying to schedule the best teams in the region, and thus far been able to beat all but Catholic.  Its not their fault that they play in a somewhat weaker conference (depending on the year) compared to others accross the country.  They just play the schedule they were given and have been successful so far.