MBB: Coast 2 Coast Athletic Conference

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

St. Mary's previous coach resigned after the debacle of a season with the famous incidents with Habel. However, I wouldn't be surprised the actual "resignation" was more like a push out the door.

[kitchenrat]

Speaking of Habel, I took a moment to gander at the SDSU stats.

Jerome is forth on the team in scoring 10.6, and first in rebounds 6.1
He's shooting 60% from the floor but only 53% at the line. The 'Tecs are 18-8 this year but are just 4-6 on the road. I wonder if Mr. Habel is still getting distracted and jawing with fans while playing on the road.

I've been to a lot of sporting events in my life, but the York vs. St. Mary's game two years ago was the only time I ever had a player threaten my life FROM THE COURT!

The SDSU media guide touts Habel as an NBA prospect and I can't agree more. You just can't teach height and he has it... he also has the attitude to make it in the Association.

[Hatters19]

The game you speak of kitchenrat was incredible.  Probably one of the best I went to while attending york.  How does Habel have any eligibility left?  Hasnt he been playins for about 6 years?

[Matt Letourneau]

Trust me guys when I say... that was not even CLOSE to the worse officiating I have seen this year. I point out there is one guy who has been the chief ref for three or four games at the SRC this season who hasn't had a good... even average... even ok game once.

What I saw at the DuFour Center certainly wasn't great... but it was ok.

I didn't have a problem with more than a handful of calls.

Matt - just to play... the inconsistencies... you did look at me and smile when you saw a hand check called on CUA followed by a hand check called on UMW, right?!

Rat--I don't about his "attitude," but you have to have discipline to make it in the NBA these days, and that's something he does NOT have.  The annals of basketball are paved with guys who had the talent and the physical characteristics to be successful but screwed it up for themselves.   I know he's been given a ton of chances, but I think an NBA team will be reticent to take a flyer on that guy.  And frankly, he didn't much impress me when I saw him.

D-Mac--yeah, I did, but that's not what I meant.  I meant the disparity between the first half and the second half.  I've certainly seen refs "tighten" the game up plenty, but that was ridiculous.  They went from not calling practically anything in the first half--even things I think should have been called, to calling absolutely everything in the second half.  And its not like the two games were getting particularly chippy with each other--everybody was behaving.  I could understand a little bit more if there had been some hard fouls and the beginnings of sore feelings--that's when the officials usually will step it up and simmer things down.

The other inconsistency was the quick whistle on any kind of guard contact, but swallowing the whistle inside on positioning.  They were letting Mary Wash players clutch and grab in the 3 second area, but they weren't letting anybody make any contact in the five second area.  

I've always said that I can deal with a game being called a certain way as long as players know what to expect, but in a game like that, its impossible.  You end up with 10 guys on the court who have practically no idea as to what is going to get whistled.

None of this is particularly important, but we've all got nothing else to talk about right now until the real action, and everybody's mind is still on basketball...

[cac]

MuMu- I believe the last coach that was forced out was the coach at UMW prior to Coach Wood. As I recall he went to court over it.

Matt- I am to lazy to check but has there been any double digit losses between Catholic and SU in the last couple of years? Most games have been pretty close.

D-Mac- I couldn't believe how far Goucher's talent has fallen. It's hard to believe they had less talent last season. I see very little chance for improvement unlees they bring in a bunch of new players.

[MuMu]

For all the feedback on the coaches firing. Thanks

Habel will hold himself back he's nuts, bottom line!

Has Hood been in any type of playoff game before this?

Salem, VA

Your picks are messed up you have Hood over marymount in the second round, but in the first roun you have marymount losing... It's playoff time get your picks right that might cost you if we had a bracket. haha

Picks I like

MU over the SeaChickens not the Seagulls

Hood just for the first round!

CUA in a close one!

Upset of the Weeekkkkkkkk UMW(Mike Lee plays huge,just because the board was talking about him!)

[HopeConvert]

officiating in the cac is bad no matter who is macthing up, the team who does not worry about comes out on top.

Dmac with your cac history has any coach been fired that you can recall

Valvano was a midseason firing, if I recall correctly. There were a series of incidents, culminating in a legendary halftime tirade, that caused the administration to pull the plug on his tenure.

[andre james smith]

I'm planning on heading up to the game at York tomorrow night, I don't know what time I'll be able to make it up there with the Beltway traffic and such, any chance this game will sell out and they'll have to turn people away... I know they had to a few years ago at MWC for a playoff game, although Goolrick isnt the largest venue in the world.

As for the game, things haven't really been going the Eagles' way lately, but I gotta believe that Mike and AJ don't want to go out like this after how successful they have been at UMW.  Hopefully, the last remaining MWC  Eagles can help put together a magical run like Dupras and Hairston did back in '03.  If the Eagles can contain McGowan, I like their chances to pull the upset and end what has been a great season for York.

[Pat Coleman]

MuMu- I believe the last coach that was forced out was the coach at UMW prior to Coach Wood. As I recall he went to court over it.

That was the Tom Davies guy I mentioned.

Valvano was a midseason firing, if I recall correctly. There were a series of incidents, culminating in a legendary halftime tirade, that caused the administration to pull the plug on his tenure.

Actually a postseason firing, following a 20-6 season. I don't know that it was one tirade that was particularly legendary but as an undergrad I know the students liked him as a coach and were upset he got fired.

I still have a "I like Coach Valvano, Gosh Darn It" shirt.

However, they hired some guy named Mike Lonergan, so it all worked out.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

D-Mac- I couldn't believe how far Goucher's talent has fallen. It's hard to believe they had less talent last season. I see very little chance for improvement unlees they bring in a bunch of new players.

Well... you need to look at their roster. They have a number of freshmens and sophomores on the team now and I like some of their talent (if they can play together). There were lots of reasons for the talent slide, but I am not going to go into some of the particulars. However, just something to ponder. Three of the four seniors the team thanked this year... were only in their third years of eligibility. I am not saying all three or even one is coming back. But, don't be surprised if you see some familiar names return.

Goucher might not be back near the top next year... but I think we will be talking about more about them in the coming years.

[Matt Letourneau]

Mike who?

Andre, I've tried to do that drive before myself--go up to York on a weeknight.  Good luck to you, my friend.  It was BRUTAL.  My wife and I did it last year and it literally took us like 3 hours from DC.   We left at like 5.   The DC-Baltimore Beltway stretch is brutal.  Then the 695 off ramp was unbelievable--next time I swear I'd go the other direction then turn around.  Then 695 itself was pretty bad for a while.  

Anyway, we did get there right as the game started, so it can be done, but...not fun.

My one attempt to make it to a CUA-MWC game resulted in a DNF, so I guess it could be worse.  I gave up when it took me like 90 minutes to get to Lorton.

I'm happy that CUA will have two home games on weeknights (if they take care of business Tuesday).   Makes life a lot easier! Especially now...

[Pat Coleman]

With the baby you qualify for HOW to Mary Washington.

To York, maybe it works better to take 70 to U.S. 15 to U.S. 30?

[Matt Letourneau]

If you can get to 70, perhaps.

That's true about HOV...actually, when I moved to Loudoun I traded my Intrigue for a Camry Hybrid so I'm loving life in the fast lane, so to speak.  But VDOT is threatening to kick hybrids out in July, which would really ruin my life.

[bbald eagle]

Heading to baltimore to get on 70 to 15 seems a bit out of the way but I never tried it

I've tried 270 to 15 to 30 to York and it is much longer than it looks. If 270 traffic is heavy, it would be impossible

[Pat Coleman]

Sorry, meant 270 to 15.