MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

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mattgrubb

Jeremy is not a goat, there were several plays that would have won the game for the scots, certainly one bad pass did not lose it.

Here is the deal, the rebounding thing can sum it all up, it is all a question of who wants it more, and these guys don't want it more than the next guy, sure they want to win, but only as much as the guys they are playing, not more.

coachwgh

www.greatsouth.org  has conference stats up for all of the teams....all 4 of them!  This a new feature and I know you all will love evaluating them with dilligence.  Especially good ole lion.  We are off to Berry tonight and we have a chance to win but we will have to play a better 40 minutes than we have in our last two games.  Hot slate tonight with MC at CN  and PC in a race to 100 with Oglethorpe.  Good luck all GSACers.

old_lion

Quote from: coachwgh on December 06, 2006, 12:54:03 PM
www.greatsouth.org  has conference stats up for all of the teams....all 4 of them!  This a new feature and I know you all will love evaluating them with dilligence.  Especially good ole lion.  We are off to Berry tonight and we have a chance to win but we will have to play a better 40 minutes than we have in our last two games.  Hot slate tonight with MC at CN  and PC in a race to 100 with Oglethorpe.  Good luck all GSACers.

Thanks for the heads up, Coach. You have me pegged correctly ... I do enjoy perusing the numbers.

BTW, we all know LC is off to a great start ... and it seems to me you've modified your approach a little ... going with your top players a good bit more than in the past. Seems to be working ...

Good luck in Rome tonight ... and to MC vs CN ... and to us at Oglethorpe. I think we are going to need it. I'm expecting a war tonight ... OU competes almost as hard as LC does.  I think that's been a key for us lately ... we've been getting our intensity level up in the "LaGrange range" lately.

Race to 100? Coach, look at those numbers again ... we are becoming a defensive juggernaut!  :D



mattgrubb

let's just make it three strong victories for the gsac.

Where is allen white now, why won't he show up on this board now?

Has he lost confidence in his hawks repeating this year as GSAC champs?

d3ball


Spencer Beaty

The game of games is tonight.  An MC team that has lacked leadership and enthusiasm other than the enthusiasm of Bradely, which could be viewed as negative sense he got a T in the otterbein game, against a not very good DII Carson Newman.  Will the scots win?  I will be in Jeff. County to find out.
"Its cool to be uncool"

-Randy Lambert-

MCScotsFan

I can't wait to read the takes on last night's game. I knew we were in trouble as soonas I saw a certain person out on the court.

Bobby and Bradley had 4 fouls called in what? 4 minutes? 5 mins. tops? I have no idea what those guys saw. Maybe thery were just trying to get control of the game right away knowing it is such a rivalry. However, I'd rather see the foul committed before one is called. That part of the game was as bad as I've ever seen (at least in the first half--I left at halftime).

MC can't win w/o some rebounding and 3's. I believe in the second half they shot 22 3's and hit 3.  :o  I know they had trouble playing defense and it still looked that way to me but maybe it is hard to play D when the whistles are constantly blowing.

Because of the early foul trouble and because the experienced players aren't stepping up, we saw some younger guys stepping up last night. Andrew Shamate had the game of his MC career, I think (at least in the 1st half) and Jared once again was giving it his all by giving 110%.

MC could have won that ballgame desite the lack of 3's, the bad officiating (call I even say that here?) which led to foul trouble early in the game, IF they had hit their free throws.

GSAC Killer

Officiating is never an excuse.. I did not make it to the game but I heard the first half on the radio. It seemed the refs were whistle happy in the beggining of the game but going into a road dam you know its  versus 8. I only fouled out once in my college career and it was at Carson Newman so I know the feeling.

Regardless of th officiating it was a very winnable game for the Scots. Our shot selection and rebounding continue to be a problem. I know its frustrating for Coach L but he is a proven winner and will steer this team back to the Fighting Scots winning way..
Only disappointing thing is that I don't know the last time Coach Lambert was 3-3 after 6 games!!! Big game against Emory coming up!!!!!!!!

mattgrubb

maybe you scots fans need to talk to some of the guys who have been around and put this current streak together in the beginning, the first 2 or 3 trips to the NCAA tourney in this 8 year run, before MC got the national respect of randomly being voted into the preseason top 25 based on their name, back when anybody would schedule maryville b/c they were just another team, this team has all the signs of a losing team, well they are not losing, but let's be honest 3-3, players who get big minutes are not willing to do the little things i.e. hustle, rebound, screen, defend, etc.  We did not get 1 loose ball against Otterbein and i bet we did not get many last night against a terrible program like CN.  the bench players are willing, but they are not near as talented or experienced, take it from a guy who sat in the CN locker room with a record of 3-6 early in the season.  It takes a lot of commitment to turn something like this around.  I will say this, this 3-3 team has ten times the talent that 3-6 team had, and there were multiple all south players on that 3-6 roster

GSAC Killer

Here is my take on things right now in Scot Country:
Lack of toughness, rebounding,and leadership will always make you a more than beatable team!!
Grubb you know how our teams played and this is not the way. My observations on players at times is critical but here is mine: Point Guards need to set up and manage the game. As good as a player as I think Bo is his decision making skills are poor. When your a point guard and you think shoot first pass second your in trouble.
I am critical of Bo because he has all th potential to be great at this level. You can't shoot 50 of you 80 shots (Old Lion would love that) from 3point range when your a point guard.. Point guards need to get to the paint and he lives on the perimeter!!

I hate to see the Alma Mater struggle!!!!!! We will win Saturday against Emory!!!!

old_lion

Quote from: GSAC Killer on December 07, 2006, 11:21:34 AM
Point Guards need to set up and manage the game. As good as a player as I think Bo is his decision making skills are poor. When your a point guard and you think shoot first pass second your in trouble.
I am critical of Bo because he has all th potential to be great at this level. You can't shoot 50 of you 80 shots (Old Lion would love that) from 3point range when your a point guard.. Point guards need to get to the paint and he lives on the perimeter!!

Killer, in defense of Bo ... several posters (you and I included) have said for a long time now that Bo is a combo guard rather than a PG ... but it seems from the box score, that MC is not even trying to play him at PG anymore ...
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/stats/NCAABoxScore12-6-06M.pdf
Isn't Anderson a PG?

It seems to me that if there is a legitimate criticism of Bo, it is that he is off to a rough start shooting the ball ... 32.6% from the field is not too good when your forte is shooting the ball.
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/stats/CombinedStats12-6-06M.pdf

Bo is a great shooter, I'm sure he'll get that % up as the season progresses.

You make an excellent point about a PG needing to get in the lane. I haven't seen MC play, so this is pure conjecture ... but maybe part of Bo's problem is that he is not playing with a PG who can break down the defense and get him good shots?

Also Killer, on a different subject ... I think I owe you an apology. I admit, I questioned your judgment when you picked LC to win the GSAC. But they are playing great! Nice win over NAIA Berry last night. They have to be considered the favorite at this point. But, I'm not counting my Lions out yet. The GSAC is as wide open as it's ever been.


old_lion

Tough loss for the Lions last night.

We were off to a great start ... up by 10, about 7 minutes into the game when Green got hurt. He was sandwiched between two guys going to the hole, landed hard on his back and had to sit for a while. It was a little scary, he was down for several minutes. With our PG out, their press started working and the momentum of the game shifted.

But we hung tough, played great D in the 2nd half (after terrible D in the 1st half) and had a chance to win at the end. But I give credit to OU ... they are a tough, Sr laden team ... and they made the big plays when they had to, down the stretch.

Still, I can't help but think it would have been a different game had our PG not been injured. Oh well, woulda, coulda, shouda ... stuff happens ... if we had played better D in the 1st half, it wouldn't have mattered that our PG was hobbled.

OU won it ... no excuses.

http://www.piedmont.edu/athletics/06_07_headlines/12_06_06_mbkb2.htm



coachwgh

Thanks for all of the congrats and compliments.  I have to be honest with you.  We are winning games but I don't feel like we are playing well enough.  We have caught breaks and made a few breaks along the way.  Have any of you ever noticed that we have the second most views on this board and every other conference is at lease double our size.  That is a Panther mentality right there if I ever so one.  Great job.  I could coach you guys!  I will make the statement again that I have to make every year it seems like....Maryville will be just fine.  Three things will happen in your life 1. pay taxes  2. Die  3. Maryville will win ball games.  Good luck to everyone this weekend.  Please make a big good luck wish for us.  This will be the first time I have coached against a team with one of my former players on the other bench.  We currently have 4 high school head coaches, 3 college assistants and 3 high school assistants out of the last 6 graduating classes.  I think that is awesome and something I am very proud.  Even though I had very little to do with it. 

MCScotsFan

Quote from: GSAC Killer on December 07, 2006, 11:21:34 AM
Here is my take on things right now in Scot Country:
Lack of toughness, rebounding,and leadership will always make you a more than beatable team!!

I agree with you. I realize officiating isn't an excuse. I just think they were calling things that weren't happening. It looked liked Bobby was tip-toeing around after that not able to be more aggressive because of the whistle. I promise you, it was bad last night. However, we still could have won. But w/o those things you stated above, it just isn't going to happen. :(

Bo is playing PG and not guard. Eric played a lot last night but never at PG. Is he a PG? Only Bo and Jared played PG. I just wonder what's going on in Bo's head? Is his heart in the PG position since he was to move over? Is he feeling pressure to lead and is not sure how to? Is he feeling pressure to be the PG AND shoot the 3 since there isn't much back-up there? I believe in Bo Mason and want to see him have a great year...yet, all I see is a young man struggling out there. From a fan's POV, it is really hard to watch.

I'd like to see Jared at point, Bo in for the 3's and Bobby and Bradley in all at the same time but that never seems to happen so I guess for whatever reason, you just don't do it.
Alex got hurt right off the bat last night and we missed him. He could and probably would have made a difference as he has come through for us so far this season. For me, he has come out of nowhere and I love that. But with no expectations, I know, it is easier to do that than for a few of the other guys who feel the pressure of the expectation.

It will be great seeing Randy work the magic with this team as 3-3 is hard on a fan's heart!  ;)

mattgrubb

Bo is playing out of position and he is feeling a lot of pressure, if he works at it he will be fine, just relax and shoot the ball, he oculd have hit 21 threes against Ohio state marion in the first half.

My let down is not on the perimeter, it is in the post, we have 4 legit players down there, b/c i will tell you, all you other gsac schools would love to have either golden/shumate or blair/holiday starting on your blocks and we cannot get a rebound, that is a problem

I think Bo, Alex, and Q are doing an admirable job, you basically have three shooting guards trying to fill 3 perimeter spots, and no one on that team works harder than those 3, at least over the summer

Now on to lagrange, Coach, if i could tell you how many games we won at maryville and we felt like we were playing like crap, winning is finding a way to win no matter what, not playing every game perfect, you try and play your best, but that is not what happens, you take what you have that night and put in a lot of sweat and effort and make it a victory, keep up the good work and congrats

LC 6-2 and ready for you!!!!!!   Go Panthers