MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[Spencer Beaty]

where did gsac tourney at?  I'm thinking Lagrange.

[old_lion]

First Team - All-GSAC   
  PGs/Wings: 
10  Jake Green  PC
3  Bo Mason  MC
22  Antoine Maddox  LC
  Posts/Forwards:   
24  Cole Hairston  HC
4425 B GoldenBlair  MC
   
Second Team - All-GSAC   
  PGs/Wings: 
21  Mike Adams  PC
32  Robby Lawrence  LC
24  Alex Bowers  MC
  Posts/Forwards:   
55  Demetrius Render  LC
25  Bradley Blair  MC
   
High Honorable Mention   
11  Tyler Whitlock  PC
40  Quinn Bradley  MC
   
GSAC Player of the Year   
20  Jake Baldwin  PC
   
GSAC Coach of the Year   
Warren "Sky Jacket" Haynes

Without question, the most dominant force in the GSAC is that two-headed monster playing center for Murvul. But technically, it must be acknowledged the B. GoldenBlair is two people ... therefore, giving "it" somewhat of an unfair advantage in the POY race. (BTW, "It" also gives Murvul a heck of an advantage, in general.) Acknowledging GoldenBlair's "10 fouls to give" advantage ... clearly, Jake Baldwin is the most dominant force in the GSAC with only 5 fouls to give ... therefore, he is the POY.

[old_lion]

Without question, the most dominant force in the GSAC is that two-headed monster playing center for Murvul. But technically, it must be acknowledged the B. GoldenBlair is two people ... therefore, giving "it" somewhat of an unfair advantage in the POY race. (BTW, "It" also gives Murvul a heck of an advantage, in general.) Acknowledging GoldenBlair's "10 fouls to give" advantage ... clearly, Jake Baldwin is the most dominant force in the GSAC with only 5 fouls to give ... therefore, he is the POY.

The numbers for the POY candidates ...

                              GP-GS   Min   FG%  3PT%   FT%  RPG  APG STL BLK PPG
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GoldenBlair .......        25-22  39.6  .510  .278  .730  11.3  2.5  24  33  28.2

Baldwin, Jake.......      25-25   30.5  .586  .253  .699  9.0  1.2  37  18  24.1

Hairston, Cole......       25-25   33.1  .482  .300  .581  6.3  2.4  36  19  16.0

Golden, Bobby.......      25-22  24.6  .518  .278  .782  7.5  1.9  17  21  15.4
Blair, Bradley......          25- 0  15.0  .502  .000  .659  3.8  0.6   7  12  12.8

The only slight flaw I see in GoldenBlair's otherwise impressive credentials is its FG%. For such a dominant entity, playing with top quality teammates, in a top quality system ... it seems its shooting percentage should be higher. And remember, GoldenBlair never has to play cautiously (10 fouls to give) or tired (4 lungs to use).    

[Spencer Beaty]

Jake Baldwing POY?  Well if you mean most valuable you might be right, but Bobby, Bradley, Alex, and maybe Bo are all on my board before him.

[Spencer Beaty]

Man this season has absolutely flown by.  I would like to thank all the posters who made this possible from my man Grubb to Oldlion and i could go on and on.  I have no life so I enjoy this.

[coachwgh]

Then you will really enjoy this link Spence...
http://www.greatsouth.org/06-07%20News/2_19_06_MBB_All-Conf.htm

I am so happy that I beat OldLion to this!

[ohyeah]

Well Old Lion, it appears Jake Green didnt even get squat.  I figured he would be acknowledged somehow.  And Timmy Blakely on the freshman team?  What was the criteria, playing in blow outs?  You put him on there and not Jared Leverdiere...wow. 

Coach Haynes, why only 8 picks and not the 10 we were used to?

[Pat Coleman]

Perhaps because the conference is smaller.

[coachwgh]

Pat is correct.  The ratio is the same as 10 members from a five team conference.  I didn't bring this up earlier because I felt it was inside information that I should not leak.  I try to open and honest on this board, be myself, so to say, but I have a professional responsibility too.  As you look at that list there probably are a few notable MIA's that come to mind quickly and a few that are unsung heros who just don't make teams like that but are still irreplaceable at their school.  Congrats to all the members!  I feel like everyone on the team is very deserving.  Obviously I can't discuss how I voted, but I will say that with only four people voting it makes for a small statistical group which doesn't react well to drastic differences in voting.  OldLion could probably explain that better since it has been 11 years since I had Behavioral Statistics and I also made a C in that class. 
I can comment on that I was selected as Co-Coach of the Year with Lambert.  I am deeply honored and humbled by that.  I will quickly explain that to me that means we are the co-team of the year.  I haven't scored 1 point of the 80ppg that we score and haven't gotten one of the 12 steals a game we average.  I know for a fact that I have lost more games this season for my team than I have won.  These guys on this team have grown with me and deserve everything that they have.  The reason we had the regular season we did was due to one thing...commitment!  I tell people all the time that at the D3 level if your players aren't committed then the limited amount of time a coach gets with them will only scratch the surface of what can be accomplished.  Our guys came together last spring, summer and fall to do something special.  Now don't get me wrong, we don't just walk in and roll the balls out everyday.  We go to work.  I work them harder than they think they can and when they forget about how hard it is and just do it naturally that is when you win 9 out of 10 games to end the regular season.  Sure we would have liked to have made it 10 out of 10 but we got what we deserved.  We are living right and working hard and when you do that you get what you deserve. 
That was long winded!  I hope everyone has a safe trip to LaGrange for the tournament and if you need any tips on where to eat just ask me, I am 15 pounds overweight right now so I can definitely point you in the right direction.  Which leads to another theory of mine about overweight coaches are better coaches than skinny ones, but that is for another day.

[mattgrubb]

All the Grubby One will say is this,

The real winner in this all GSAC crap is Jake Baldwin and it is crap and here is why

CoPlayer of the year, I hate that Co crap, but that guy can flat out play and player of the year crap not really that important as compared to

Jake Baldwin GSAC All Academic, this guy made the All Academic Team and lead the league in scoring, now that is impressive b/c this is D3 boys, these kids are in school to learn

That is a model for a true Student/Athlete

The Grubby One is done!

[old_lion]

I know you have all been eagerly awaiting my input, so here goes ...

Unbelievable! What genius managed this FUBAR* deal? Obviously, a very sophisticated selection process ... just go to the list of top scorers, and draw a line under how many you want ... and you couldn't even do that right. Who did Render piss off?

I didn't need you to just list the top scorers in the league ... I already had that information ... I can read. Since I understand the coaches are somewhat involved in this process, I was sort of hoping you'd make a thoughtful attempt to recognize the top players (as opposed to just the top scorers) in the "conference". I realize the average "fan" frequently appears to believe those two things are synonymous ... but JHC! ... I was hoping our coaches were above that mind set. Silly me ...

SCORING
## Player-Team               Cl  G   FG  3FG   FT  Pts Avg/G
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1.Baldwin, Jake-PC.........    23  206   19  113  544  23.7
2.Robby Lawrence-LC........ SR 21  125   43   70  363  17.3
3.Demetris Render-LC....... JR 23  136    2  108  382  16.6
4.Hairston, Cole-HC........ SR 24  150   14   67  381  15.9
5.Adams, Mike-PC...........    23  129   56   30  344  15.0
6.Golden, Bobby-MC.........    24  131    4   89  355  14.8
7.Antoine Maddox-LC........ SR 24  126   31   64  347  14.5
8.Mason, Bo-MC.............    24  105   63   52  325  13.5
9.Blair, Bradley-MC........    24  128    0   52  308  12.8

Hey, nothing wrong with the guys you picked, they are all deserving. But what's the deal with only 8 guys? ... someone get tired? ... have to catch a bus?

Didn't the "conference" already appear half-assed enough as it is? We need to re-enforce that perception by only picking 8 guys? We couldn't be bothered with picking 11 guys (POY + 1st and 2nd teams, like last year)?
http://www.greatsouth.org/05_06_news/2_24_06_MBB__Conf.htm

I'll tell you who got screwed by the "decision" to only pick an 8 man team ... ( I hesitate to use the word "decision", because that implies thoughtful consideration. Obviously, thoughtful consideration was not a key element in this FUBAR process.)

Demetris Render:
One of three players who carried the most improved team in the "league". You can honor his coach with a Co-COY award ... thus recognizing 50% of the coaches???  ... but you can only acknowledge 8 players? Cracka, please! Render's rankings ... scoring 3rd, rebounding 6th, FG% 4th, FT% 8th, steals 10th ... That's not an All-GSAC player?

Jake Green:
Best PG in the "conference" ... GSAC leader and nationally ranked in assists for 3 straight years ... but apparently, that's insignificant ... it's all about "volume shooting" in the GSAC. Green's rankings ... assists 1st, steals 4th, FT% 3rd, FG% 10th,  scoring 12th,  ... That's not an All-GSAC player?

Alex Bowers:
Probably the best all-around guard in the "conference"  ... he does everything well. He would have been the 2nd Murvul player I would have selected. One of the most efficient scorers (highest PPS)  ... but apparently, that's insignificant ... it's all about "volume shooting" in the GSAC. Bower's rankings ... assists 7th, steals 2nd, FT% 7th, FG% 3rd, rebounding 9th, scoring 10th,  ... That's not an All-GSAC player?

* For those of you who may be unaware, (since "unawareness" seems to be our current theme) FUBAR is an acronym ... the last part is Beyond All Recognition.

[old_lion]

The ratio is the same as 10 members from a five team conference. 

Oh ... well that makes perfect sense ...   

That explains why we selected 11 last year ... since we were a 5.5 team "conference".   

Also, I'd always wondered why the Big 12 selects 24 ... now I know.   

But, doesn't that "logic" dictate that we have .8 coaches of the year ... instead of 2?

Did I say logic? Sorry, what was I thinking?

Un - f  ing - believable!

[old_lion]

The ratio is the same as 10 members from a five team conference. 

Oh ... well that makes perfect sense ...   

The more I think about this, the more sense it makes. We have one less team, so obviously, we couldn't grant that positive feedback to as many of our young men ...

I mean that costs a lot to grant them that "warm and fuzzy" feeling that comes with someone recognizing you are doing a good job. To do too much of that ... well, that would have been a bad thing, right?

I mean, after all, these guys are already pampered athletes ... the full rides, special dining halls, the tutors, the "$100 hand shakes" from the big-time boosters ... they get all the perks ... It would have just been wrong to hand out too many "atta boys" on top of all those perks.

No, this is D3 ... they don't get any of that ...

But, this is D3, we have to watch our costs ... but wait, that doesn't cost anything?

I'm sorry, I guess I'm just a little slow ... the entire logic just eludes me ...

But wait ... I forgot ... we did manage to give 50% of our coaches that "warm and fuzzy" feeling. Glad I remembered that ... now I feel a lot better. 

[ohyeah]

But wait ... I forgot ... we did manage to give 50% of our coaches that "warm and fuzzy" feeling. Glad I remembered that ... now I feel a lot better. 


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Hopefully Randy's warm and fuzzy feeling will come in Lagrange with his 500th victory.  Good luck Scots, make some history for the coach you made gray.

[scotswin]

I read this board much more than I post.  I usually quietly disagree with Old Lion but I agree 100% with him and Grubb.  OL has made his point quite well. 

Also, naming 2 POY and COY flies in the face of only naming 8 all-conference players.  Pick one and be done with it.

I wonder how the 2-2 split for these awards were divided.  I assume that coaches cannot vote for their own players or themselves?