MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[Spencer Beaty]

Man guys lets have peace.  What would Hern Dog do?  He would hug a tree, that is what he would do.  Dont be bagging GSAC Killer for his bad use of homophones.  Big deal.  What we need is some chances for the big guns from the north are to come one down and felx their guns southern style.  Well I've gone into depression.  No MURVUL home games till January 3rd

[coachwgh]

Fellas, I wish I could speak further on the state of our conference and the addition of schools and our wish list of NAIA schools and other such things but it does no good.  We are what we are and we gotta live with it. 

I will speak on the Maryville/South D3/state of the union discussion currently going on.  The one thing that keeps me level in this world is knowing that everything is relative.  I feel like Maryville is a darn good program at any level.  To me they are a very difficult opponent for our team and any team that steps betweeen the lines with them.  I also feel like Sewanee and Centre are good programs.  We beat Sewanee on the road by 30, Centre beats us at home by 20 then Sewanee beats Centre.  I say that to say this.  Basketball is typically an any given night, any given team situation.  The one thing about Maryville is that they trump that mentality on a daily basis.  They don't give people those opportunities to take advantage of.  It won't just happen that you beat Maryville.  You better be good and you better bring it.  There are better teams in D3 than Maryville.  Are there 21 right now?  I don't know.  I don't think there are 21 better basketball PROGRAMS in D3 right now, and right now all things being relative, that would be something more sturdy to hang a hat on than anyone's rankings. 

Now excuse me I must go yell and scream for 90 minutes.

Merry Christmas(Are we still allowed to say that on this board?) and Happy New Year to everyone.

[scotswin]

GSAC Killer, please stop.  Your rantings are terribly annoying and baseless.

Maryville is good, dang good.  There are some 400 teams in D3 basketball.  The voters on this poll only see a fraction of those teams.

Based on the consecutive tournament appearances and the fact that Maryville gets at least one win in the tourny every year, I don't think anyone could argue placing them in the top 25 to start just about every year.  However, it is obvious that the voters take into account graduating senoirs and Maryville just lost an All-American.  Those are hard to come by. 

I am sure that the D3hoops.com people have great respect for the recent accomplishments if Maryville.  There are very few schools who have been as consistent over the last 7-8 years.  However, there are dozens of school that have done better in individual years.  As Pat said, predictability is boring.  Let's beat a team outside the south in the tournament and then we'll talk top ten respect. 

As a side note, it is unfortunate that the geographical layout of D3 schools forces Maryville to travel after the first or second round of the tournament every year.  I would love to see some of those schools down hear in March.

[Big Dog]

I am up for bringing in a Ralph Turner and Pat Coleman to Murvil and showing them some southern hospitality. I think Pat is in D.C. and we have Independence Air and I would gladly spring for a ticket so he could come down and see a game. We could have a big party for Pat. I don't know Ralph but hey, who likes to travel alone. If he is in D.C. the offer stands for him as well. Coach Lambert is the best-and Maryville is moving up the academic echelon quite nicely. If you guys are interested, repost and I will give you my 800 number, look at the Scots schedule and host you for the evening. And fellows, if cheerleader sings the National Anthem, Shiela Evans dances at halfime, you too will be converts, new believers to basketbal at Boydson Baird (Maryville's Home Floor). C'mon down fellows.

[Ralph Turner]

Big dog, I am actually counting on McMurry hosting MURVUL in the South Regionals! 8)

However, the lovely bride might not want me visiting eastern Tennessee just to see a Sheila Evans halftime dance routine.

As for inviting Pat Coleman, bring him down for a tourney in Maryville with Maryville and some other GSAC team hosting a John Carroll and a Wooster or Witt.  Then the GSAC fans could see other well respected teams playing in the hills.

I think that Matt Grubb remembers McMurry from the 2000 playoffs.  Well, Coach Ron Holmes and Coach Russell Vanlandingham have joined forces again and are playing that same style of ball!   Coach Holmes and Coach Vanlandingham brought in nine new players and the 15 players are getting used to the system.

In the ASC-West pre-season poll, 2005 ASC-West tri-champions McM and Hardin-Simmons were voted 3rd and 4th.  Monday night, McMurry jumped on HSU early and beat them 126-104.  McMurry had 10 players in double-digit minutes and the starting #2 guard was ill and did not play.  Eight players scored in double figures.  McMurry outrebounded HSU 55-34, including 33 to 26 on defensive and 22 to 8 on offensive boards.  We are looking forward to the rest of the season.  I hope we are hosting the Scots or the GSAC representative! First, we have to get thru a very tough ASC schedule! 

[narch]

who let the ferrum football posters parade as m'ville hoops fans?

[wilburt]

I agree with Coach Haynes. The GSAC is what it is, and will be this way (5 men and 8 women) for quite some time in the near future.

FISK is now (6-2) and looking forward to facing #11 RMC in 2 weeks.  Hey Pat, if FISK beats RMC on their home court can the Bulldogs be ranked just like MURVUL.  Please, pretty please!  We would be undefeated (albeit 2-0) in the South Region just like them ...

I'll keep my mouth shut until then. Well I'll try to at least.    

[coachwgh]

The Panthers will try and do the GSAC some good this weekend when we play, undefeated in SCAC play, Hendrix and #6 Albion.  Whoever made this schedule should be punished.

[mattgrubb]

well GSAC here is our chance, come on panthers, if you beat Albion and we beat you twice as usual, that will do the GSAC good
The last time John Carroll came to MC it was not pretty, they were coming off of an elite 8 appearance the year before and it was around thanksgiving and they beat us 40, different maryville now
But this LC Albion game could be big, come on panthers
Pat, my place is always open

[Spencer Beaty]

This break has really depressed my spirits.  This is no holiday.  I would like to take this time to talk about a very underated player for MC.  Jeremy holiday has got a good package.  He is a bit scrawny but he has a great mid range game and can take it to the whole.  He has a great work ethic and never makes any stupid mistakes.  Here is a salute to you JERMS.  have a great holiday season wilburt.

[mattgrubb]

I 2nd that emotion coach beaty
Holiday is the total package, i hear he is a favorite of the ladies at MC
Coach Lambert said, "Well he (Holiday) might not be able to read, but he sure can defend"
That really is a great compliment for a scots player, while granted he is no andy chaney, but who is?
Happy Holidays to you all, Jerms style
Scots 376   Averrett 12
Let me know how the game goes

[scotswin]

This ain't high school. In college, classification is not determined by enrollment. It's not like they recruit their basketball team by hanging up some signs in the hallway -- the basketball players are at that institution for the same reason they are at yours, or any other. They are recruited specifically to come there.

This one has been eating at me a little.  I don't share GSAC killer's feelings that large public schools shouuld not be aloud in d3.  However, they do have obvious advantages beyond hanging a sign in the hallway for tryouts.  They have a much larger pool of kids to pick from in recruiting.  There are many more kids who have the means to pay for public tuition.  I am currently watching the d3 football national championship game.  They just mentioned that UW-Whitewater has 10,000 students and 45 academsic programs.  That much academic diversity increases the recruiting pool even more.

[wilburt]

Scotswin

Life's not fair, so why worry about the enrollment of the state schools in D3 like Wisconsin.  Would you want to spend a winter in Wisconsin?  I think not, that's punishment enough as it is.

I too like Coach Beaty hate this "dead period" in the season, but I have had two office Xmas parties to go to this week so that has occupied much of my time. Still planning on going to the GSAC tourney in Montgomery in February, anybody else going?

Can't wait for the GSAC season to start in a few weeks and to see Courtney Ellis (The soon-to-be 2005-06 GSAC player of the year) in action!         

[scottiedoug]

OK William.  Usually your postings are reasonable and do not rely on conjecture about people's motives and character.  I appreciate that.  But recently you wrote about Murvul,"They appear to be scared to have a more challenging schedule, because it would affect their coveted won-loss record, ands affect their chances to get into the tourney."   The idea that Randy is "scared" is absurd.   He may or may not make decisions based on the kind of calculations you suggest, and we are all free to think whatever we will of those decisions, but "scared" is the wrong term.

I think the idea of a tourney at MC with Fisk (or somebody else from the GSAC) and Wooster and John Carroll or somebody like that is a great idea, but it is possible that the non-GSAC teams want no part of such a thing.  In my opinion, before we declare who is scared of whom, we ought to know some facts.

I am "in" if we need some money to get Pat (and even Ralph and this McMurry stuff) to come on down!  And see the Step Team.  And the basketball teams.

And MC has come back from 12 down to lead Averett at 53-50 with 8:47 left.

[scottiedoug]

I do not think of myself as a "I told you so" kind of guy, but Averett beat Murvul 73-70.