MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[GSAC Killer]

Grubby One i went back and read some of your posts I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!! You said it could be Piedmont's year?? It can also be the year the Falcons make it to the Super Bowl " NOT HAPPENING". Very disappointe din your opinion on the matter Mr.Grubb.

By the way get your mind right!!! Alumni game December 15th!!! You know who my first pick is!! oh yea i get first ick because my squad made you look silly just like Bowers will make all the GSAC opponents look silly this year!!

[old_lion]

Old Lion,
any word on Coppage?

Grubby One,

I finally had an opportunity to meet him and see him play.

Seems to be a good, solid guy as previously reported. I think he already has respect of his teammates.

His game is just what I'd expect coming out of Murvul. Very heady, well rounded, solid defensively ... I definitely see him in our top six or seven ... either starting on the wing or getting "starter minutes" coming off the bench at the wing and PG positions.

[old_lion]

Grubby One i went back and read some of your posts I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!! You said it could be Piedmont's year?? It can also be the year the Falcons make it to the Super Bowl " NOT HAPPENING". Very disappointe din your opinion on the matter Mr.Grubb.

By the way get your mind right!!! Alumni game December 15th!!! You know who my first pick is!! oh yea i get first ick because my squad made you look silly just like Bowers will make all the GSAC opponents look silly this year!!

Killer,

It's probably not too late to get a refund on that diplomacy course ...

If you need a witness, I'll testify for you that it just didn't take ...   

Your friend,
Old Lion

[mattgrubb]

Piedmont looks strong this year
and define it being another team's year in the GSAC, that means finishing 2nd to murvul
come on killer

bowers is about to knife through the GSAC like it is hot butter

[batteredbard]

Over on the USAC football board the word is out the Shenandoah's prez said in a column that they will petition to join the ODAC. Assuming that it goes through and since ODAC needs another football school I'm betting it does is this the first step to a GSAC collapse?
You have to think Piedmont would be atraget to fill the Honets shoes if not MC being asked to be a full member.

And for those who just can't wait till the first tip, here's some words from Lambert.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070912/SPORTS/70912024

[mattgrubb]

how many teams from the USASC will defect to the ODAC total, could the ODAC become a D3 superconference like the big east and then the USASC take in the gsac and have maybe 10 members?

I need to know

[batteredbard]

I'm not sure anyone else would follow SU to the ODAC but its not improbable CNU could head for a more appreciative pasture.
Picking up Piedmont doesn't fix the football problem so where else do they go? LaGrange and Huntingdon are already taking their football to the midwest next season.
Maybe someone could talk some sense into Brevard and get them turned toward D3 instead of D2. That was amove that just didn't make sense to me. They had a good competitive program in a few sports and have been waxed since jumping. Visiting the campus last year it struck me as more in common with nonscholarship athletics than the direction its taking.
The odd thing is that none of these are going to be overnight moves so by the time this gets really complicated is when the D3-AA and D4 proposals will be up for discussion in 09, which could change everything. I dont even want to imagine what the state of things may be for the 10 and 11 seasons.

[coachwgh]

All I know is that when all this moving and shaking starts, I hope LaGrange is moving or shaking.  If Shenandoah leaves that gives the USASC 6 with a two year grace period for AQ status.  Maryville is closest and already a football member, Piedmont seems like a really smart fit for the USASC, and LaGrange is a long way from the closest team.  I just don't know....I just don't know.  I don't know where the loyalty lies.  What would we do with the single gender schools? What would the USASC do with their three single gender schools?  I do know that I am trying to schedule 19 non-conference games and that is like bobbing for apples in a pirahna pond.

[Pat Coleman]

I really think all four GSAC schools end up in the USAC if one of them does.

[mattgrubb]

i agree Pat, and i see maryville dominating them in men's basketball as well

Go Scots


Alex Bowers  GSAC POY 2008

[old_lion]

Alex Bowers  GSAC POY 2008

Loyalty is a good thing ... but so is reasonableness.

None of us can predict the future, but I think the best you can reasonably hope for is that the "Murvul rule" is invoked again, as it was in 2007.

For the uninformed, legend (and irrefutable circumstantial evidence) has it that buried deep in the double secret bylaws of the GSAC is the "Murvul rule".

It states ...
In the rare and unforeseeable event that the by far and away most outstanding player (for clarification ... highest scorer*) happens to play for a team other than Murvul ... and King Lambert can catch the rest of the GSAC brain trust asleep at the wheel ... then a designated player from Murvul shall be picked to share the POY Award with the otherwise obviously most outstanding player/highest scorer.

The double secret bylaws further stipulate ...
* Let it be known that scoring average will be the overwhelmingly dominant consideration for all post season honors, because to consider other factors would require too much appreciation for the finer points of the game ... and, well frankly, too much thinking.

OK, OK ... simmer down Murvul faithful ... just a little levity to spice up the preseason ... 


OR IS IT?!?!     

[batteredbard]

For Murvul folks the conversation on the realignment continues on the USAC football board.
Old Lion I agree, seeing HC and LC make the move it a stretch because of geography. I know they're willing to do it for football with that new conference kicking in next season. But making the trips for all the other sports, hmmmm, I just don't know. It may rule against MC doing it.

BUt here's one I haven't seen mentioned, with the smaller size now, the men are no longer doing the play team a on Sat and team b on Sun road swings. Someone was always left out of that formula anyway. I think the 05-06 season HC and LC alternated with Fisk and MC for that purpose and Piedmont ended up getting everyone's sole attention.
Does the lack of those weekends favor Piedmont who is no longer the only team to get undivided attention or does it favor everyone else not having to make those Sat Sun conf trips?

[Pat Coleman]

If that conference realignment happens, it would almost certainly put teams in divisions. they wouldn't have to go to, say, CNU, every season.

[coachwgh]

A 10 team USASC doesn't really require that bad of a schedule.  You play one weekend in Dec. and from the second weekend in Jan til the end.  The travel partners play during the week and the pre-GSAC involved schools could still opt for weeknights to play other games as well.  All that travel would have half of the schools miss one Friday class in Dec., 2 in Jan. and 2 in Feb(if you made the conference tournament).  We have a Jan Term so that means we would never miss more than 2 classes per term.  The reason I mention that is that it seems to always come up in the discussion when we talk about this reclassification.  The two biggies are travel expense and class time.  If I played everyone in that league on a weekend schedule it would cost me 8 hotel nights.  We have 9 hotel nights this season.   That would give everybody 18 conference games and only 7 others to go get.  You wouldn't have to play another game that required an overnight stay if you didn't want to.  Let's take a vote of the public.  Is this a good idea?

[mattgrubb]

Old Lion,
Let's be honest here,  I firmly agree with your Murvul rule.  That was a classic post.  At least you are seeing reality.  That is good to know.

Scoring is not the sole factor, but the major one.

King Lambert does dominate the GSAC.

To the POY thing, i think Golden was the true POY and the All American voting justified that