MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[scottiedoug]

Where does the PBL fit into the system of pro leagues "under" the NBA?

[mattgrubb]

NBA
NBDL
CBA/PBL
ABA
I put the ABA below the other 2 b/c of league management issues, although the owner of the Nashville team bought the starting 5 of the CBA champs and they did not win the ABA

[old_lion]

Another all women's institution?   

http://www.greatsouth.org/News/gen/2009/5/13/51309_Salem_GSAC.asp

Isn't the problem that we don't have enough men's teams to get AQs?  It sort of reminds me of much of the stimulus package ... yeah, there is activity, but what's the point?   

I realize the gsac brain trust often moves in mysterious ways ... but there must be some logic here I'm missing?  If someone would like to enlighten me, I'd be interested to find out what it is.

[wilburt]

Another all women's institution?   

http://www.greatsouth.org/News/gen/2009/5/13/51309_Salem_GSAC.asp

Isn't the problem that we don't have enough men's teams to get AQs?  It sort of reminds me of much of the stimulus package ... yeah, there is activity, but what's the point?   

I realize the gsac brain trust often moves in mysterious ways ... but there must be some logic here I'm missing?  If someone would like to enlighten me, I'd be interested to find out what it is.

Let me know when you get an answer!

[scottiedoug]

If the GSAC and USASouth already have negotiated a way for the GSAC men to play in a league with AQ, what is the problem with adding another women's school?

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090528/SPORTS/305289987

[Ralph Turner]

Another all women's institution?  

http://www.greatsouth.org/News/gen/2009/5/13/51309_Salem_GSAC.asp

Isn't the problem that we don't have enough men's teams to get AQs?  It sort of reminds me of much of the stimulus package ... yeah, there is activity, but what's the point?  

I realize the gsac brain trust often moves in mysterious ways ... but there must be some logic here I'm missing?  If someone would like to enlighten me, I'd be interested to find out what it is.

From my post on the GSAC women's board...

I really see this as part of a bigger picture for D-III in the southeast.

Salem gets into a conference which helps with scheduling.  The non-conference games will be the same teams (USA South) as they have had.  The GSAC moves to an 8-team (women's) conference.  This solidifies the AQ's for the women...8 is better than 7.  The addition of softball just made sense.  Salem's Volleyball and Tennis give the GSAC [women] an AQ bid in 2011-12.

This also strikes a balance for women's programs in the southeast, 4 all-women's schools in the GSAC and now 3 in the USAC.  (The conference alignment makes that 8 GSAC women's teams and 10 USAC or 9 if Shenandoah leaves.)

I still believe that Shenandoah is out of the USA South by fall 2012.  The USA South men need an affiliation with the GSAC men to maintain the AQ.

I also look for the GSAC to add Covenant if they decide to come D3 after their provisional year, 2008-09.  We should hear on Berry GA and Covenant in the next 6 weeks. (Berry probably goes to the SCAC after 1-2 years as an independent.)

[Pat Coleman]

Another all women's institution?   

http://www.greatsouth.org/News/gen/2009/5/13/51309_Salem_GSAC.asp

Isn't the problem that we don't have enough men's teams to get AQs?  It sort of reminds me of much of the stimulus package ... yeah, there is activity, but what's the point?   

I realize the gsac brain trust often moves in mysterious ways ... but there must be some logic here I'm missing?  If someone would like to enlighten me, I'd be interested to find out what it is.

What independent school would you add, then?

[batteredbard]

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090630/SPORTS/306309977

[mattgrubb]

it looks to me like the USA South and the GSAC are dancing around the issue.  its like hookin up with an ugly chick.  You know you are going to do, you know you want to, you know things are going to be rough for a little while after you do it as everyone makes fun of you in the short term, but after it is done everyone feels better and things start moving forward again.

Just go ahead and merge, the 2 conferences need each other, you are right there, its late, have some more drinks and lets get this thing wrapped up.  Lambert will dominate this conference too.  go scots.

[Ralph Turner]

it looks to me like the USA South and the GSAC are dancing around the issue. its like hookin up with an ugly chick.  You know you are going to do, you know you want to, you know things are going to be rough for a little while after you do it as everyone makes fun of you in the short term, but after it is done everyone feels better and things start moving forward again.

Just go ahead and merge, the 2 conferences need each other, you are right there, its late, have some more drinks and lets get this thing wrapped up.  Lambert will dominate this conference too.  go scots.

+1!   

From the ODAC football board...

Interesting article, but the last I heard Shenandoah was still on the outside looking in. Has anyone got any updated info? (Relevant passage is about three-quarters of the way through the article.)

http://www.tricities.com/tri/sports/college/college_football/article/emory_henry_football_coach_working_overtime_for_breakthrough_season/27081/

...
The schedule for the Wasps remains the same this fall. There will be two changes in 2010 with the addition of the University of Virginia's College at Wise and Shenandoah University.
E&H travels to Wise in 2010 for the first of a two-year contract. Shenandoah, located in Winchester, Va., is entering the ODAC. Greensboro is one of the teams that will be eliminated from the E&H schedule.
...

...and from the USA South football board about the economic hard times at Greensboro.

From the front page...

http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/06/27/article/greensboro_college_fending_off_creditors

This is very sobering news.

The affiliation of the GSAC-Men may be what saves the USA South.

Creditors at the door?   

That is serious at Greensboro.  The USAC needs GSAC big time.

I think that the problem is not that the USA South doesn't want the GSAC, it may be whether there will be seven full men's members of the USA South to maintain their AQ's.

The prescient Grubby One may be right that we probably ought to anticipate the word "merger" for the men and not "affiliation".   



I'll bet the Grubby One first heard the word "prescient" in a scholarly oratory by Coach Lambert!          

[scottiedoug]

Mr. Grubby One:  What's with the Scots in Rocky Top?  Everybody hurt?

[bballlover]

Can anyone confirm LaGrange has a new floor?

[mattgrubb]

IDK, i don't understand kids these days

[Spencer Beaty]

Grubb,
You are so out of touch with today's youth!

[scottiedoug]

So Spencer, can we assume you are not and that you therefore can explain the Scots' disappearing act in the Rocky Top?