MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

Ralph Turner · February 28, 2006, 10:47:28 AM

Griff, the "Holiday" legislation has been tabled. I don't think that Pat Coleman will "diss" 2 games out of 20 D3 games being in another region.

I will bet that the Holiday legislation gets revisited in the near future.

What the GSAC needs are 2 more GSAC teams that will give 4 more GSAC (D3) games.

Atlanta Christian bringing their programs up to GSAC status? Getting Shorter to move to D3?

Sorry I did not have time to do my HC vs. VJC breakdown... maybe tonight!

Ralph Turner · February 28, 2006, 10:52:37 AM

narch, my rough guess is that Maryville has been Pool C calibre 2 of the 6 years that the pool system has been going. The other 4 years I would say that the GSAC would be a weaker mid-major.

I think that Huntingdon's defense matched up better than Maryville's against both Trinity and especially MissColl.

I am looking forward to the games in Clinton.

I think that MissColl beat Maryville TN (my bad) MO by 20 in a walk-away, with none of the starters having to play more than 15 minutes.

GSAC Killer · February 28, 2006, 10:54:39 AM

No doubt in my mind that the Hawks should have been in the tourney but also recognize that your schedule was not NCAA Tournament material..
Yes you did beat Fisk twice and Maryville twice but that is it.Is that enough to make it to the tournament. In your winning streak you played Pensacola Christian, Carver Bible, Atlanat Christian, I believe twice. Also Ferrum and someone else from the USA South which are garbage!!
Imagine that we would have subsituted our south region losses with cupcake teams like Huntingdon did, we would be 24-3... But our strength of schedule would be terrible, and the possibility of making the tourney would shrink..
My question to your team is: Knowing you had 6 seniors and basically a very experienced team why not play more games on the road and get quality points against quality opponents.. You had like 15 to 18 home games.. Does not help you very much...
If there is someone or something to blame is your scheduling...
Besides all these things you had a great season and a great conference tournament...
Good luck next year!

scottiedoug · February 28, 2006, 10:55:47 AM

The "national posters" on the Bumblin' B's board in Multi-Regional are unanimous that Maryville is "toast", shouldn't be there anyway, and has no chance of beating Trinity, never mind Miss. College. All I can hope for is that Trinity believes this and the Scots do not.

Without Monte, though, it's hard to see where the points are going to come from.

mattgrubb · February 28, 2006, 12:47:52 PM

i remember a time when Rose Hulman won the scac and everyone said they pretty much had a bye in the first round by playing maryville, RH had an all american and a bunch of seniors and they got the business, Fighting Scot style

That was a much different atmosphere in Maryville then, one where the scots felt they had to prove something, it seems now that the scots need to prove something again, b/c they are not that good, especially without Monte, they are not the better team when compared to Huntingdon, that is a fact, they did have a better schedule. Now these scots, who are young need to prove something for next season's sake, they need to prove they are good enough to be there. They need to prove they have some resolve and are not just riding the name of Maryville and prove they deserve to represent the fighting scots. They will enjoy Jackson it is a nice town to play in the NCAA tourney and good luck. Hope you are ready for the challenge scots b/c it won't be easy and you have a lot to prove. Go Scots.

I love the Big Show

wilburt · February 28, 2006, 01:18:08 PM

Check out these articles. Very informative about the MC selection...

http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/231344

http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/231337

Pat Coleman · February 28, 2006, 02:01:26 PM

Informative, perhaps, but not entirely accurate.

False: "While you can't compare wins to predict an outcome, that the game was so close might have made an impression on Piedmont coach Lee Glenn, who represents all of Pool-B to the committee."

mattgrubb · February 28, 2006, 02:30:53 PM

Go Scots

scottiedoug · February 28, 2006, 02:58:39 PM

Come on, Pat. The Daily Times guy got more of it right than most reporters and half the posters to this site! Yeah I know, he did not get ALL of it right.... He even called Duckworth and got his take on the situation.

Still, how often to you get positive references to D3Hoops.com and bracketology in newspapers?

Matt: You're right...do they want to make a statement about their future as a program?

Let's hope so.

Ralph Turner · February 28, 2006, 05:53:09 PM

Wilburt,

I linked to the Daily Times and found the article quite interesting.

QuoteAnd maybe that's where the whole NCAA selection controversy between Maryville College and Huntingdon College really started, with the Kilted Krazies pointing to seven-consecutive NCAA tournament appearnce banners hanging from the farters (sic) of the Cooper Center.

The Daily Times must own really unique "spellcheck" software.

Spencer Beaty · February 28, 2006, 09:50:24 PM

Jeremy holiday will have a breakout tourney game and no one will even know about it. He is the best quiet player that i have ever seen

Spencer Beaty · February 28, 2006, 09:52:52 PM

IN my expert opinion i say that it doesnt matter how MC does in the NCAA's. They are playing with next years team and Andy Chaney. Even though andy is the man the x factor and the next president of the united states we will be ok without my favorite person of all time and expert grass mower. We made it through the loss of the great hern dog so anything else is no big deal.

wilburt · March 01, 2006, 07:36:18 AM

Ralph I think The Daily Times writer was hinting that Piedmont's Coach Glenn had something to do with Maryville getting the Pool B bid over Huntingdon, since he was a member of the committee.

narch · March 01, 2006, 08:25:13 AM

Quote from: wilburt on March 01, 2006, 07:36:18 AM
Ralph I think The Daily Times writer was hinting that Piedmont's Coach Glenn had something to do with Maryville getting the Pool B bid over Huntingdon, since he was a member of the committee.

i think he was speculating rather than hinting...i'd be willing to bet that the numbers (qowi, regional winning %, etc.) had much more to do with it than results vs. piedmont...in fact, i'd go so far as to guarantee it

Ralph Turner · March 01, 2006, 08:33:54 AM

I promised to analyze the criteria between VJC and Huntingdon. As I was listening to the archive of the Monday night Hoopsville, the compelling factor to me became the in-region record.

Villa Julie was 17-4 officially, but had 4 losses to 2nd year provisional and fellow NEAC members Keystone and PSU-Berks. that did not count. An in-region trecord of 17-8 is closer to Maryville and Huntingdon.

I also commented that Fisk may have disappeared from the last in-region ranking, the one we won't see. I also suggested that the team in the penultimate (that is a Huntingdon-type word meaning "next-to-the last"

) regional ranking in the set of teams to be considered "in-region ranked".