MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[old_lion]

Old Lion
there is a 73 year old player for Roane State community college.  just google Ken Mink, that is his name.
He is Coach Wallace's Daddeigh

Wow ... that's quite a story.
http://knoxnews.com/photos/galleries/2009/jan/20/ken-mink/

Here I was thinking it's about time for me to hang em up.  Heck, if this guy can still play on a college team ... then Ive got decades of pick-up ball left in me.      

[mattgrubb]

the lions could use your crafty moves on the court and your veteran, very veteran leadership in the locker room

[Spencer Beaty]

After the MC Huntingdon game I got several bits of information.  First, never leave the game early to watch the last five minutes of UT because they will lose.  Second, if MC shoots the three point shot well they are very very hard to beat.  Also, Pittman is a very good player, but Huntingdon needs to find some other people to help the cause.  Overall MC won without playing their best.  Peanut was the only one who really turned up the heat and played well.  I will say this, Wes Lambert, even when not shooting the three, contributed through his defensive intensity and smart basketball.  Peace, Love, and go Scots!

[scottiedoug]

Here is the Daily Times on the MC-Huntingdon game:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090125/SPORTS/301259968

I concur that the Scots did not play very well except for Dustin.

[Big Dog]

The Scots are still getting better. Not playing well and winning is better than not playing well and getting the L. I still believe that with a win out the Scots will be THE LAST team to make the NCAA field. As the Grubby One and even Killer would know, never count the Scots out until the last song is played and the dj is packing up his stuff.

[old_lion]

http://www.piedmontlions.com/index.asp?path=mbball

Yeah, baby!  We needed that one ... way to go, Rubio.

Also, strong games from stalwarts, Coppage and Herebia.

And apparently, young Mr. Gardner would like a spot on the all-frosh team ... an excellent all-around game ... his strongest to date.

http://www.piedmont.edu/athletics/mbasketball/08-09stats/pcm18.htm

We had a positive assist to turnover ratio and we out rebounded them ... all in all, a good day.  Way to bounce back, Lions!

[GSAC Killer]

Up late watching tape. The life of a coach. Decided to take a break and remind the Lions where they are coming this week...MARYVILLE.
Piedmont vs Maryville = LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL for the Lions

It will be close for the first 8 minutes and then Damron 3,Lambert3, Watson Lay-up , Hernandez and 1.. Scots up 11 push it to 16 by the half, end up winning by the score of 94-73.

Old Lion I might be at the game. Hope to see you there. Will be the first time I see the Scots live! Old Lion this is what will happen. Coppage will come out forcing and Rubio will be a non-factor.. Dang I talk a whole lot of mess. I honestly think it will be a better game than I just rambled about. The Scots are living too much on the 3pt line for my liking. The Scot ball we played was more Inside/Out.. Lets get a dose of Hernandez and Watson to the basket..

By the way any of you coaches out there who read this have a 6'6 215lbs SR post player interested in playing college ball. Email me if interested.

[old_lion]

Dang I talk a whole lot of mess.

Well Killer, at least you're an honest man.

Piedmont vs Maryville = LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL for the Lions

Not diplomatic, or tactful ... but honest ... 

Old Lion I might be at the game. Hope to see you there. Will be the first time I see the Scots live! Old Lion this is what will happen. Coppage will come out forcing and Rubio will be a non-factor.. Dang I talk a whole lot of mess. I honestly think it will be a better game than I just rambled about. The Scots are living too much on the 3pt line for my liking. The Scot ball we played was more Inside/Out.. Lets get a dose of Hernandez and Watson to the basket..

I just might see you there, Killer.  I'm trying to firm up the details for a Lions/Scots and Vols/Gators double header ... and, of course, a Grubby One tailgate party.  I have some reservations about the Vols/Gators game though ... don't know if I can stomach that much orange!   

I agree with your comments about the Scots shooting the 3 ... they do seem to be fogging it up more than normal.  Let's see ... your two best players are Hernandez and Watson ... and they are both beasts taking it to the hole.  Hmmm ... seems like a good idea to me.  You've always had a keen understanding of strategy.

[old_lion]

gsac Stats - Sorted by Power Value Rating
Top 20 or so, as of 1/20/09

School   Player               GP rpg ppg  PPS PVR  apg tpg spg bpg
             
HC 15 Pittman, Jeremy.... 15 8.9 18.6  1.54 46.1  1.2 2.1 1.8 1.5
MC 33 Eryk Watson........ 15 4.8 19.7  1.34 40.1  2.4 2.9 1.4 0.4
PC 50 Herebia, J.C....... 16 6.1 18.6  1.53 38.8  0.8 1.5 1.2 0.4
MC 50 Greg Hernandez..... 16 7.6 15.8  1.59 37.9  1.2 1.7 0.8 0.9
             
LC 32 Joe Cromwell....... 18 4.3 14.4  1.16 31.0  1.3 1.9 0.8 1.0
PC 11 Coppage, Samuel.... 16 3.5 13.5  1.70 30.3  4.3 3.6 0.9 0.1
LC   4 Nic Whitfield ......  18 5.7 11.1  1.16 30.0  2.0 2.2 1.0 1.3
HC 40 Sprouse, Reggie.... 15 4.3 13.5  1.15 29.7  2.1 3.3 2.2 0.3
             
PC 23 Rubio, Michael..... 16 3.6 13.4  1.20 28.7  1.9 2.4 1.8 0.1
PC 24 Rush, Justin....... 16 2.9 12.3  1.26 23.0  1.4 3.1 1.3 0.1
HC 34 Williams, Deshaun.. 7 2.6 8.6  1.71 21.6  2.3 1.1 1.3 0.0
MC 11 Wes Lambert........ 16 1.8 10.5  1.27 21.5  1.9 1.3 0.8 0.0
LC 10 Dillon McLaughlin.. 18 1.8 9.5  1.23 20.8  3.2 3.1 1.3 0.1
HC 50 Murray, Doug....... 8 2.4 10.4  1.20 20.1  1.0 1.6 0.8 0.1
MC 5 Jordan Damron...... 16 1.9 9.0  1.20 19.4  2.3 2.4 1.3 0.1
HC 30 Sampleton, David... 15 3.1 7.3  0.97 15.8  0.9 1.9 0.7 0.1
HC 3 Roberts, Chris..... 13 0.8 9.5  1.48 15.8  0.4 1.0 0.7 0.0
PC 33 Chatman, Mike...... 11 2.2 5.4  1.31 15.5  2.0 1.5 1.2 0.3
LC 50 Deji Adako......... 18 4.8 5.3  1.02 15.5  0.6 1.3 0.4 0.2
PC 32 Gardner, Tracy..... 16 6.3 3.3  1.10 15.4  0.8 1.3 0.4 0.4

Looks like Pittman is pulling away from the pack ... and Rubio is closing the gap on the 8th spot.

Looks like a horse race is developing for freshman of the year between Rush and Lambert ... and McLaughlin is within striking distance.

New and improved ... now with shooting %s   

gsac Stats - Sorted by Power Value Rating
Top 20 or so, as of 1/26/09

School   Player               GP FG Pct 3 Pct FT Pct rpg ppg  PPS PVR  apg tpg spg bpg

HC 15 Pittman, Jeremy.... 16 49.5% 50.0% 68.5% 8.6 18.6  1.54 45.5  1.3 2.1 1.7 1.4
MC 33 Eryk Watson........ 16 46.3% 41.1% 87.0% 4.7 19.4  1.35 39.2  2.4 3.1 1.5 0.4
PC  50 Herebia, J.C.......  18  62.3% 0.0% 73.4% 6.4 17.9  1.52 38.1  0.7 1.5 1.1 0.4
MC 50 Greg Hernandez..... 17 56.4% 0.0% 76.9% 7.9 15.5  1.62 37.6  1.1 1.7 0.8 0.8
               
LC 32 Joe Cromwell.......  20  50.8% 40.8% 67.6% 4.6 15.1  1.19 32.3  1.3 2.0 0.8 1.0
PC 11 Coppage, Samuel.... 18 46.3% 42.5% 86.2% 3.6 14.1  1.72 31.5  4.2 3.5 1.0 0.1
LC 4   Nic Whitfield......    20  47.6% 0.0% 60.8% 6.0 11.3  1.19 30.4  2.0 2.4 1.1 1.3
HC 55 Sprouse, Reggie.... 16 39.8% 27.1% 61.0% 4.2 13.2  1.13 28.5  1.9 3.4 2.1 0.3
               
PC 23 Rubio, Michael..... 18 34.5% 35.8% 79.5% 3.4 13.6  1.24 28.4  1.8 2.4 1.8 0.1
HC 34 Williams, Deshaun.. 8 51.1% 38.5% 61.1% 2.4 9.8  1.73 23.1  2.5 1.6 1.5 0.0
PC 24 Rush, Justin....... 18 46.6% 31.0% 73.2% 2.8 12.1  1.22 22.9  1.4 2.8 1.3 0.1
MC 11 Wes Lambert........ 17 43.8% 44.2% 57.1% 1.6 10.2  1.27 21.1  2.1 1.3 0.8 0.0
MC 5 Jordan Damron...... 17 38.8% 37.0% 87.8% 1.9 9.8  1.29 20.5  2.3 2.5 1.3 0.1
LC 10 Dillon McLaughlin.. 20 37.0% 35.2% 88.2% 2.0 9.5  1.23 20.3  2.9 3.1 1.2 0.1
HC 50 Murry, Doug........ 8 42.0% 20.0% 65.6% 2.4 10.4  1.20 20.1  1.0 1.6 0.8 0.1
PC 32 Gardner, Tracy..... 18 42.4% 22.2% 60.0% 6.5 4.0  1.09 17.6  0.9 1.1 0.6 0.4
LC 50 Deji Adako......... 20 34.6% 0.0% 61.0% 5.2 5.4  1.04 16.2  0.6 1.4 0.5 0.2
HC 30 Sampleton, David... 16 31.6% 22.9% 68.9% 3.0 7.3  0.99 15.7  0.8 1.8 0.8 0.1
HC 11 Turnipseed, D'Awval 8 41.2% 32.1% 25.0% 2.5 6.5  1.02 15.7  0.9 1.1 1.3 0.1
HC 3 Roberts, Chris..... 14 49.4% 50.8% 100.0% 0.7 9.2  1.45 15.1  0.4 1.0 0.7 0.0

Quite a battle developing for that final spot ... assuming, of course, that the gsac brain trust continues it's infamous 4 to a team logic.  logic ... obviously, I use the term loosely ...   

[mattgrubb]

I think the DamLam combo is going global.  i can't wait til erin andrews shows up to do a story on these two ballers/bachelors.  She would turn into a groupy real quick.

I love old lion's statistical analysis.  Even with those numbers, I still think the best players in the league are watson and hernandez.  In order for me to change that opinion, someone is going to have to beat the scots

[old_lion]

Even with those numbers, I still think the best players in the league are watson and hernandez.  In order for me to change that opinion, someone is going to have to beat the scots

There s/b more to picking the best players, than just the #s.  Although I've never seen much evidence that the "gsac deciders" have ever considered much other than scoring #s. Rebounding #s, maybe ...

But that aside, allow me to play devil's advocate for a minute ..

Let's assume, for purposes of discussion, that the PVR #s do actually identify the four best players ... with Pittman having a slight, but clear, edge over the others. That being the case, I have a tough time accepting that HC's inability to beat MC would somehow indicate that Pittman is not the best player.

Think about it  Hernandez and Watson have each other, as well as the clearly better team.  MC should beat HC.  The best player is the best player ... regardless of how good his team is.   Didn't we set that precedent last year?

I'm not necessarily saying Pittman is the best player ... though he'd get my vote at this point.  I'm just taking exception to your "winner take all" viewpoint.

i can't wait til erin andrews shows up to do a story on these two ballers/bachelors. 

I think you should invite her to your MC/PC tail gate party.   

[mattgrubb]

i will see if she will come to the tailgate
I would argue that having other good players on your team does limit your numbers b/c if you have a good rebounder then you don't need to rebound as much or score if you have a good scorer.

Like when randy lambert played, he averaged 31 pts per game, but they never won nothin but man he sure scored a lot of points and had a lot of hair

good players do what their team needs them to do to win and that should be the criteria and i do love old lions statability

speaking of statability, ken mink is still ballin at 73, i hope coach wallace has a plan to handle him next year when he is 74

[old_lion]

I would argue that having other good players on your team does limit your numbers b/c if you have a good rebounder then you don't need to rebound as much or score if you have a good scorer.

You make some good points, my friend.  There are always at least two sides to most issues.

Statability?  I think maybe you've been listening to a little too much Clark Kellogg ...   

[old_lion]

http://www.piedmont.edu/athletics/mbasketball/08-09stats/pcm19.htm

Two in a row ... two in a row ...

Now we roll into Murvul, to raze their village, salt their fields, steal their women, and ravage their cattle.  OK, I'm getting a little carried away with the euphoria of our two game winning streak ... and I think I got that last part backwards.     Sorry Killer, I've never been much of a smack talker.  But anyway ...

Some observations from last night ...
* Solid effort, especially offensively
* Balanced scoring, our top 4 scorers were all in double figures
* Took care of the ball, 15 assists, only 7 turnovers ... outstanding ...
* Sloan, 2 blocks and 3/3 on FGs, now up to 69% for the year ... not too shabby

And how about play making Tracy Gardner ... 8 assists with  no turnovers in the last 2 games.  This guy has been a solid, warrior type all season.  I have a feeling that he is going to be this year's overlooked intangibles guy.  With the gsac's solid freshman class, there is a chance he won't even make the all-frosh team.  That would be a shame.

[scottiedoug]

Randy Lambert muses in the Daily Times about the economy encouraging conference realignments.  Especially whether SCAC schools can continue their expensive travel habits.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090128/SPORTS/301289989