MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

old_lion · February 02, 2006, 01:06:51 PM

Quote from: wilburt on February 02, 2006, 11:45:30 AM
Let's get back to talking basketball.

I agree with that 100%.

And let's put up the race card.

Seems to me, 95% of the time when the race card is played ...
1) it's unnecessary ... it causes well-intentioned people to become tongue-tied for fear of being labled "insensitive"*
2) it brings an extra, unwarrented level of emotion to a discussion and
3) it usually obscures the issue originally being discussed

*BTW, I guess being "sensitive" is OK. But, IMHO, it is way too high on a lot of people's desired virtues list. Personally, I prefer being open, honest, and treating everyone fairly and equally.

But that's just me ... that's how I roll. :>)

GSAC Killer · February 02, 2006, 01:10:33 PM

it doesnt drive me crazy at all Mr.Wilburt.....

.... I kind of enjoy ur postings.... I will never be mad because in the end I was 20-0 against everyone in the GSAC!!!
I just wish the guys we have this year would play with maybe the same fire and intensity the coaching staff provides and teaches... Its tough to swallow a home loss like that but hey, its all good.... Conference Tournament coming up!!

And like Old Lion and Wilburt Its all about basketball baby!!!
Good luck to everyone the rest of the way...

wilburt · February 02, 2006, 01:46:57 PM

As far as POY, IMHO I would lean towards Allen White of Huntingdon so far.

Seems to me that no other player from any other GSAC school has appeared to play with the same consistency throughout the year.

Plus, Coach Duckworth's team is very capable of beating both Maryville and FISK at home, just like Coach Haynes' LaGrange team. If they can put it all together, like I think they can, both teams could do a "Sewanee" on you.

scottiedoug · February 02, 2006, 01:48:02 PM

William: You do not drive me (or any of "us," I think) crazy and I find the board less interesting and challenging when you hibernate.

If Murvul cannot go to the NCAA, I want Fisk to. If two can go, let's go! I'd like to see how some of the ODAC and SCAC and USASouth teams would handle your guys (Randy-mac already got a taste).

GSAC Killer: Regarding Bo, it seemed to me that it was not a lack of "fire and intensity" as much as letting his fire and intensity screw up some decision-making. He is a soph, after all, and we did not get to see you as one!

narch · February 02, 2006, 02:04:37 PM

wilburt - i sent you a pm that might explain your "wonder", because you are correct, this board SHOULD be about basketball

on a basketball note, i am a bit jealous of FISK and FISK fans...my monarchs got a 40 point beat-down at MURVUL

mattgrubb · February 02, 2006, 02:08:28 PM

let's discuss the facts
Fisk has 15% winning percentage against the scots in conference play, i hope you are celebrating that today
Maybe your guys can destroy their own scoreboard in celebration, If it took me 4 years to beat one team, i would kill myself, but i also had an undefeated GSAC career and i was a POY and i recommend Monte Calloway
If it works like the heisman, there it is

Matt Grubb 4 Life

wilburt · February 02, 2006, 02:22:57 PM

Doug in all sincerity I think both Maryville and Fisk will likely get Pool B bids this season, regardless of who wins the GSAC tourney. Which could be Huntingdon this year!

Assuming I am correct, will the NCAA committee likely have Fisk and Maryville play a potential 4th game against each other this season (bring out the national guard) or will they likely ship Maryville to the ODAC and Fisk to the SCAC?

It seems to me that it would be cheaper (since they are so concerned about finances) for the NCAA to have Fisk and Maryville play each other rather than go to either an ODAC or SCAC school to play.

We'll see what the South Rankings hold next Wednesday.

By the way, I just got wind of one of Fisk's first basketball high school recruits. He is from West Aurora High School outside of Chicago. One of the better High School programs in Illinois. That's the same high school that produced former NBA player and University of Illinois alum Kenny Battle.

Narch, don't be jealous of Fisk. Although I am happy about the victory, I am unhappy about unsportsmanlike conduct. They apparently did not act this way when they beat Randolph-Macon on the road. I would like to chalk this one up to youthful exuberance. If it happens again, (strike that) it won't happen again right Mr. Adams

Matt Grubb you can twist the facts anyway you want to. I am still a happy man today

! It's all about what have you done lately, not when you and Raul played. And too be honest lately Maryville has not been looking too good.

old_lion · February 02, 2006, 02:46:57 PM

Quote from: wilburt on February 02, 2006, 01:46:57 PM
Plus, Coach Duckworth's team is very capable of beating both Maryville and FISK at home, just like Coach Haynes' LaGrange team. If they can put it all together, like I think they can, both teams could do a "Sewanee" on you.

What's the problem Wilbert, can't find the "green" button?
Seems you are constantly overlooking Piedmont ...

Apparently, our taking Fisk to OT at our place didn't impress you ...

I'm wondering ... if Mr Shivers had not hit that clutch 3 with only seconds remaining to send the game into OT, would you be able to remember that there are 5 teams in the GSAC?

scottiedoug · February 02, 2006, 02:58:55 PM

William: I was prepared to let it go but now feel the need to write that it was not only Chris Adams...he was not among the "bustupthe scoreboard" crowd...whose post-game antics did not help build a positive impression for Fisk last night.

I would hope the NCAA would not have MC and Fisk play early but rather let them see if they are any good by playing a new challenge.

wilburt · February 02, 2006, 03:05:56 PM

Old Lion, although I was not clear about it, I was referring to the upcoming two-game road trip both Maryville and Fisk have against Huntingdon and LaGrange in Georgia and Alabama. Hence, the use of the term Sewanee on you ... Upset at home, like Sewanee did to Maryville. It was no slight to Piedmont, since neither Maryville nor Fisk will play Piedmont again in Georgia this season.

Fair point Doug, but I consider Mr. Adams a leader on the team [plus he posts on this board] and that's why my remarks were to him specifically.

mattgrubb · February 02, 2006, 03:08:33 PM

just remember now maryville returns everyone except Chaney and Martin, could the streak start again?

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old_lion · February 02, 2006, 03:24:31 PM

Quote from: wilburt on February 02, 2006, 01:46:57 PM
As far as POY, IMHO I would lean towards Allen White of Huntingdon so far.

Seems to me that no other player from any other GSAC school has appeared to play with the same consistency throughout the year.

Player Min FG% 3PT% FT% R/G A/G T/G S/G B/G P/G

Allen 25.4 .491 .370 .633 4.2 2.5 3.8 2.7 1.0 15.8

Monte 27.6 .459 .379 .888 5.0 3.1 2.2 1.4 0.1 15.6

Looks like a pretty tight race to me. At this point, I'd give the nod to Calloway based on the "best player on the best team" theory.

scottiedoug · February 02, 2006, 04:56:03 PM

Hey Matt: Does Monte now get to rerun his senior year?

wilburt · February 02, 2006, 05:05:09 PM

Old Lion

I was never one to buy into the best player on the best team theory! Besides, who the "best team" in the GSAC this year is still up in the air.

I wasn't aware of medical redshirts being allowed this late in the season for athletes in Monte's situation. But then again, I am not aware of the NCAA rules on the topic.

Spencer Beaty · February 02, 2006, 08:50:45 PM

There is not way monte will get a medical redshirt. With just a handful of games left including the NCAA's. But on the POY debate i would give it to monte but im a little biased. I think he is definitely the most valuable player. He has the intangables. he plays D like no one else on the MC team does. Bo no big deal pick it up.