MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

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Ralph Turner

Quote from: scottiedoug on February 09, 2006, 11:15:07 AM
So, if William is correct, which I think he is, why is it that the ASC (incl. Mississippi College) can get better talent in D3 than the  GSAC schools?  I do not think the coaching in the GSAC is in any way inferior, so it might be the players!

Ralph?  Pat?  All y'all?

Scottiedoug, we have so many Scholarship programs in Texas where good players do not get the playing time that they want and so will come to D3.

Mississippi as a state has great juco programs to develop basketball talent.

The ASC has worked on breaking the mystique of "duh, I got a atheletic skolarship" that may not be as good as the financial package or quality education as might be the case at an ASC school.  The successes and visibility of the NCAA at D3 have helped in some cases, McMurry especially.  McMurry has many more sports in D3, and successful programs at that, than they did in the NAIA.  UMHB and ETBU have done it by adding football as part of the college experience.  I believe that TLU is glad to have football back. I cannot speak about the experience at Louisiana College.

I think that the GSAC is 2-3 men's schools away from breaking thru to the next level.  A good run by "anybody-but-Maryville" would start to signal that the GSAC is not a (Maryville) "one-trick-pony".    I think that is how real respect is earned.

old_lion

Quote from: coachwgh on February 09, 2006, 11:10:28 AM

Hopefully Corie Jackson played himself onto the all conference team last night at PC.  7 of 7 from 3 in the second half plus 3 free throws to tie the game after being fouled on a three. 

He gets my vote! That maybe the best individual performance I've seen all year. We had our best defender on him the 2nd half and we couldn't come close to slowing him down. I've admired Jackson's all-around play for two years now. I've heard him decsribed as the best on the ball defender in the GSAC, and I agree. And now with the way he's shooting the ball ... yeah, I'd say he's all conference.

Coach Haynes, great effort by LaGrange. Everyone talks about Huntingdon's defense (which is good) but I think you guys are the best defensive team in the GSAC.
With Jackson (and others) all over our PGs and everyone else in the passing lanes ... heck, against you guys there are no passing lanes. It's a wonder we had "only" 18 turnovers ...

old_lion

#617
Quote from: GSAC Killer on February 09, 2006, 12:55:01 PM

Old Lion how about that kid Jake Green?? ;)
P.S. The second coming of Placeres might be coming to a D3 near you...Watch out!!

 

Killer, it was a war! We had a lead for most of the game until Corie Jackson went off on us in the 2nd half.

It took 3 huge shots in the final minute or so for us to win it. First Adams hit a 3, then Adcock hit a 3, and then Green hit the pull-up jumper at the end. Since it was against LaGrange, you know they were all over us!

Great game!

The second coming of Placeres? That's a pretty strong statement ...  :o

Urban Myth

Quote from: coachwgh on February 09, 2006, 11:10:28 AM
Hopefully Corie Jackson played himself onto the all conference team last night at PC.

I agree, Corie Jackson is a hell of a player.  Great on ball defender, plus a great scorer when his shot is on, which is sounds like it was last night. 

Quote from: old_lion on February 09, 2006, 01:33:29 PM
Everyone talks about Huntingdon's defense (which is good) but I think you guys are the best defensive team in the GSAC.

not too sure how you can say that one?  Lagrange's defense is definitely a tough one to play against, very pressure oriented, but when Huntingdon is ranked second in the nation in defensive fg% (possibly first once it's updated because of what their stat sheet says their defensive fg% was tuesday), i find your statement a hard one to make.

mattgrubb

Second coming of Placeres, that is not a strong statement at all
Raul would have been a much better player if he had had hair.  After his hair fell out he lost all confidence and his game went south.

It would be tough for anybody in D3 to be a better on the ball defender than Monte Calloway.

maryville is currently in a recruiting battle for a great point guard with some top notch D3 schools, hope we get him.
Coach Haynes, i hope this is not your year, not b/c i don't like you b/c i do, but i like Randy a little more, he has aged with grace

Wilburt, it was a tough one for fisk last night, hopefully they will bounce back this weekend for your sake, but if they don't that will be great for maryville and the teams they play,

Have i mentioned how awesome this weekend is going to be, this scheduling has played out perfect, good job to whoever planned it.

Killer you need to lock it up this weekend

coachwgh

I would put Corie on the ball full court on anybody in the country.  He even gave that Placeres kid a problem a couple of games.  In the half court his 5'7 frame can be a disadvantage.  He makes me glad I am not a point guard. 

Our defense may be more difficult to play against than Huntingdon but we give up too much easy stuff. Check our season stats: 50%FG Defense.  Not going to win many ballgames doing that and we are living proof. 

I have a hard time believing Killa could lock it up in just a weekend.

old_lion

Quote from: Urban Myth on February 09, 2006, 01:54:43 PM


Quote from: old_lion on February 09, 2006, 01:33:29 PM
Everyone talks about Huntingdon's defense (which is good) but I think you guys are the best defensive team in the GSAC.


not too sure how you can say that one?  Lagrange's defense is definitely a tough one to play against, very pressure oriented, but when Huntingdon is ranked second in the nation in defensive fg% (possibly first once it's updated because of what their stat sheet says their defensive fg% was tuesday), i find your statement a hard one to make.

OK Urban, you are probably right ... I stand corrected. It's just that LaGrange's aggressiveness greatly impresses me every time we play them. Let me modify my statement and use Coach Haynes' phrase ... let's say they are very difficult to play against.

mattgrubb

Well let's be honest amongst friends here, if the old saying holds true, Defense wins championships and HC's D really is the best in the country, from my experience, which is long and distinguished, there D is the best advantage any team has going into the GSAC tourney, b/c that is when making shots is tough
It is not like shooting percentages go up in the tournaments, i will be honest, mine went way up, but then again I am the Grubby one.
So with that said, if HC has the #1 ranked D in the country and it is legit, like no pensacola christian schools having 28 points in 2 games against HC, then i will say it right here right now, Allen White POY and HC gsac tourney champs.  There it is, is anyone from HC willing to stand behind that statement and second it b/c the grubb threw it out there, The Grubb loves defense oriented teams come tourney time that is why he loves the fighting scots

ohyeah

Grubby one,

Your hair used to grow during tourney time as well, not just your shooting %.

mattgrubb

At least i still have hair
Massy ratings
48. Maryville
59. Fisk
176 Piedmont
277 Lagrange

old_lion

#625
Quote from: mattgrubb on February 08, 2006, 11:42:29 AM
Old lion i think all coaches look for a player that is a coach on the floor and (1)right now the best i have seen is Adams from Fisk, sans all his outbursts, if he lost those he would be a great player, but at the end of the day I would not want him on my team b/c who knows when he is going to get a technical or ejected and in the big time games you cannot afford that, and embarrassing himself after winning a conference game
(2)Mason has the ability to evolve into that
(3)Green from piedmont is pretty good at that
(4)Raul was phenomenal at that, 2nd best the gsac has ever seen

Matt,

1) Not quite with you on that one. I think you are both, being too hard on Chris (I'd take him on my team in a heart beat. Someone just needs to help him learn to reign in that intensity. That's coaching.) and rating him too highly( I don't know that I'd take him over Bo or Jake.) I'd love to have all three of them. They would give you great depth at the 1 and 2 ... and I think they would be great on the floor together under certain circumstances.

Wouldn't you love to have a "composite player" combining the best features of those three guys? If such a player existed, we wouldn't be discussing him here. He wouldn't be in the GSAC.

2), 3), and 4)   Agreed.

mattgrubb

I agree with you Old lion i am tough, but when it is Feb. of your senior season, you don't really get anymore coaching
And i was a little too polite to raul, he was good for a bald guy

old_lion

Quote from: mattgrubb on February 10, 2006, 02:34:07 PM
when it is Feb. of your senior season, you don't really get anymore coaching


Good point ... maybe some "behavorial modification" actions should have been taken over the last couple of years ...

scottiedoug

Last night one of the Lady Vols got a T for "exhuberance" when she scored over a LSU player and got in her face running her mouth.  UT lost by 3.   It was one of UT's best players (a soph).  I bet she does not ever do that again as long as Pat Summitt is her coach.

Chris did not seem to get his behavior modified before near the end of his senior season. 


Spencer Beaty

Ill take the under on the Haynes and his jacket
"Its cool to be uncool"

-Randy Lambert-