MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

Spencer Beaty · February 17, 2006, 11:03:20 PM

The press breaking ability is kind of bipolar for the MC scots at this moment. At one point we broke the press for a layup attempt 7 straight trips down the court. I am going to tell the fisk people that if you press us with andy and sam out of the game we are done. Bo cannot break a press i am sorry to say by himself like reuben or GSAC Killer could. Bo is a 2 guard.

Spencer Beaty · February 18, 2006, 11:12:11 AM

I would like to take this time to wonder who our next big man in the esteemed line of big fat white guys will be. The original was matt ennen. Then we went to paul whatever his last name was. and after bobby i just dont see any big fat guys. I dont know what we will do if we dont have a big man

Spencer Beaty · February 18, 2006, 05:46:10 PM

Thanks to my man ralph i am assured that murvul will make it in the NCAA's by making it out of the GSAC

Spencer Beaty · February 18, 2006, 07:19:18 PM

what are the posting requirements to be raised levels. I am curious

Spencer Beaty · February 18, 2006, 11:14:46 PM

I talked to one of my sources at "the campus" today. From what i hear freshman trey brewer is an up-in-coming star in the GSAC. Look for him to have a great sophomore year with an improved jumper and an always quick first step to the goal

Ralph Turner · February 18, 2006, 11:15:43 PM

Any news out of Rust?

Pat Coleman · February 19, 2006, 02:31:47 AM

Nothing I've seen. But I was able to track down a few of the previous missing Rust scores the other day.

scottiedoug · February 19, 2006, 03:50:09 PM

Spencer: Maybe Trey can hurry it up a little and help compensate for Monte's ACL. This year

Spencer Beaty · February 19, 2006, 04:02:50 PM

trey can certainly give you the defense desired but his outside three-point shot is not up to par. I once saw him score 42 points in a high school game without a 3 pointer or a free throw and he went 21 of 24

old_lion · February 19, 2006, 05:32:56 PM

Quote from: old_lion on February 17, 2006, 01:08:14 PM
Actually ohyeah, I like your picks a lot ... there is no one on your list who doesn't deserve to be there.

If it were up to me, I would only change one ... or maybe two. And I honestly don't know which of my PC guys I would replace Babian and/or Baldwin with ... in my mind, it's that close. But I really don't expect my rational to prevail when the "powers that be" pick it either.

I do, however, still strongly feel that the difference in talent level does not justify 3 all-GSAC guys for HC if that means PC is limited to 1 guy. On the one hand, it would be a shame for either Hairston of Babian to not make it ... as it will be when any of the 4 guys below don't make it. 3 of the 6 won't make it ... all 3 (that don't make it) should not be Piedmont guys.

OK, since unfortunately, I am the only PC fan on here, I guess it falls to me to make the case for my guys. So here goes, in alphabetical order, of course ...

Adams ... Two Guard, would be an excellent choice for all-GSAC ...
14.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.7 apg, 1.4 spg entire season
10.6 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.9 spg GSAC
Probably our most improved player, and one of our most consistent guys. He got off to a great start and carried us early in the year. Still playing well ...

Baldwin ... Forward, would be an excellent choice for all-GSAC ...
15.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.0 apg, 0.9 spg entire season
16.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.1 apg, 0.9 spg GSAC
Top scorer for second consecutive year. Struggled a little in the middle of the year as PC experimented with a variety of lineups and focused on developing depth. Has gotten back in the groove as we've "shortened our bench" for the stretch run.

Green ... Point Guard, would be an excellent choice for all-GSAC ...
8.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.9 spg entire season
10.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.6 spg GSAC
Best PG in the conference, makes it difficult to pressure us. Playing with a lot of confidence and making clutch plays, down the stretch. You don't score 86.4 ppg (16th nationally) unless you have a very good PG running the show.

Walker ... Forward, would be an excellent choice for all-GSAC ... (I have a theme going here.

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9.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 2.6 apg, 2.4 spg entire season
10.3 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 2.8 apg, 2.9 spg GSAC
I've previously stated the case for Walker, most versatile big guy in the conference ... does everything well ... emotional leader.

Urban Myth · February 19, 2006, 05:49:21 PM

Old Lion, all 4 players are good, there is no doubt about that. it's a tough choice to make, but when you look at all the stats for the 6 guys, the top 3 would be Baldwin, Babian, and Hairston. but my word is done with all the picks, i've made my points and there are no games left for anyone to change my mind. i really don't think my input would help in the decision making anyway, haha.

guess we will see come thursday who will be right.

good luck to all teams in the upcoming GSAC tourney.

oh, can anyone tell me the Rust/Fisk score, i have no idea about who won or anything.

old_lion · February 19, 2006, 08:43:23 PM

Quote from: Urban Myth on February 19, 2006, 05:49:21 PM
When you look at all the stats for the 6 guys, the top 3 would be Baldwin, Babian, and Hairston.

If you look at the stats alone ...

without understanding the makeup up of the teams involved,

the way those teams spread their minutes,

the talent of the guys involved (beyond just the numbers),

and the contributions they made to their teams ...

I can see how you could reach that conclusion.

Hopefully, the "powers that be" (the coaches?) will understand the situation on a more "beyond just the #s" basis.

Still, I'm not holding my breath. If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to bet $100 one way or the other, I'd probably go with your way of looking at it. I just don't have a lot of confidence in my logic/justice prevailing.

But, I'm sticking with ...
I do, however, still strongly feel that the difference in talent level does not justify 3 all-GSAC guys for HC if that means PC is limited to 1 guy. On the one hand, it would be a shame for either Hairston of Babian to not make it ... as it will be when any of the 4 PC guys don't make it. 3 of the 6 won't make it ... all 3 (that don't make it) should not be Piedmont guys.
I agree that neither your, nor my, opinion is going to carry very much weight ... but it's fun to talk about.

ohyeah · February 20, 2006, 10:34:34 AM

old lion, the stat that sticks out to me regarding piedmont is their record. If those guys are so good and cannot be replaced, then why dont they win more games? Im not trying to bad mouth Piedmont, but why should 2 or more players from a bottom team in a 5 team conference make it. Their numbers have to be excellent to justify it. 10 pts and 8 rebounds isnt going to do it.

old_lion · February 20, 2006, 11:18:36 AM

Quote from: ohyeah on February 20, 2006, 10:34:34 AM
old lion, the stat that sticks out to me regarding piedmont is their record. If those guys are so good and cannot be replaced, then why dont they win more games? Im not trying to bad mouth Piedmont, but why should 2 or more players from a bottom team in a 5 team conference make it. Their numbers have to be excellent to justify it. 10 pts and 8 rebounds isnt going to do it.

Damn, ohyeah ... it's fine if you have a different opinion, but I thought I had stated my reasoning pretty thoroughly ...
region and overall records of middle 3 being fairly similar,
"bell shaped curve distribution" of talent and slots (3,2,2,2,1),
different philosophies in minutes played/ #s produced,
etc. etc. ...

If you are seriously asking that question, go back a few days and read (or reread?) some of my old posts.

Spencer Beaty · February 20, 2006, 07:02:18 PM

This is the time of the year when everyone just bugs the heck out of me. Basketball is a team game and every post that is on here is about how so and so should be the Player of the Year and everyones picks for the all-conference teams. It takes five people to play the game so lets do it. I could care less if none of the MC players made it on the all-conference teams.