MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Urban Myth on February 22, 2006, 03:10:05 AM
what does the number in parentheses mean under schedule?  is that like the rank of schedule difficulty or something?

Yes, strength of schedule;  1 is hardest.

wilburt

I'm back and headed to Montgomery Friday morning.  Looks like the winner of the GSAC tourney will get a Pool B bid.  I'll be there to heckle the heck out of everyone and to badger the refs - "I'm blind I'm deaf, I wanna be a ref!!!."      ;D

Doug I see that you can't make it but what about you Grubb? Will you be there?

By the way, how is Andy Chaney doing after shooting his buckshot? 

It's March (oops) February MADNESS BABY!!!!!
Fisk University: Founded by Missionaries, Saved by Students.

Six time SIAC Football Champions 1913, 1915, 1919, 1923, 1973 and 1975.

Six NFL draft picks and one Pro Bowler!

narch

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2006, 02:01:56 AMI was not able to find a Massey MOV, (margin of victory) which is the sophisticated BCS style computerized rankings that Pat mentioned, but if Wesley were in D3, they would be somewhere around 355 out of 400 schools.

ralph - i think the mov is in the next to last bullet on the page you linked...the word "here" is the link...i could be wrong, though

if i'm reading this correctly, massey has:
m'ville at 57 with the #67 schedule
huntingdon at 68 with the #231 schedule
fist at 121 with the #81 schedule
piedmont at 189 with the #177 schedule
lagrange at 253 with the #112 schedule


Urban Myth

with all the talk of mississippi college earlier, it surprises me to see their strength of schedule at 238...

Ralph Turner

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narch, thanks, but I could not find how to get to the MOV ranking for Wesley College of Mississippi!  I will try to find it again.

Urban myth, Mississippi College does not play Mississippi College, so their values do not go into the computation.  Also, Carver Bible and Wesley College on the Mississippi College schedule have a different impact on a schedule from a Carson Newman or a Tennessee State.

Massey considers all games against all schools.  The NCAA D3 Selection committee only considers the results versus D3.  Carson Newman makes the  Maryville schedule look harder, but the NCAA expressly has defined the scope of their evaluation for the D3 Tourney.  Only D3 counts.

Griffcoach22

Old Lion,
If you go Piedmont's schedule since 2002 you will find that  they have lost to alot of NCCAA teams.  In fact, you may find if you back out the Toccoa wins you are pretty close to having a losing record versus NCCAA's. Tennessee Temple and Pensacola owned you for a year or two.  In fact, if NCCAA's are so bad why does Piedmont not play TTU anymore after playing home and home for years? It's because you can't beat them.   If the NCCAA is so bad why did Piedmont not win the National Championship when they were members of the NCCAA during their transition to D3?  I think you could go to the MASSEY rating and find alot of NCCAA's who are in the NAIA that have really high Massey ratings like Lee University, Faulkner (won the national championship in NAIA recently, etc.....

Now I guess you will say that NAIA basketball is weak like you have implied about the NCCAA. 


wilburt

To GriffCoach22:

I get back in town and this is what I get. We are on the brink of probably the best tourney the GSAC has seen since the 2003 tourney  :D  and you and Old Lion are still in this pissing match. Will you ever let your hate of Piedmont (read Old Lion) rest?  I am sick and tired of this between you two.  It serves no useful purpose. Don't make me write a poem about you two  ;)...

If Raul and I can patch things up, then surely you two can! In fact if Raul is old enough to drink, I'll buy him an adult beverage this weekend - if MURVUL wins both tourneys (men and women)!

GO FISK!
Fisk University: Founded by Missionaries, Saved by Students.

Six time SIAC Football Champions 1913, 1915, 1919, 1923, 1973 and 1975.

Six NFL draft picks and one Pro Bowler!

mattgrubb

Unfortunately i don't think i can make it, but Raul will carry my flame and take you up on those drinks wilburt.  This is the most contested GSAC tourney ever.  We have 3 teams who could win it all and none of them are considered underdogs.  Yeah Baby.

The only stat that matters at this point is the scoreboard baby.

Coach C

Urban myth -

Yes - the parentheticals are rankings.

C

Griffcoach22

Wilbert,

Just trying to let Old Lion know that he isn't the all-knowing basketball guru.  I could care less if Piedmont wins every game they play or loses every game they play.  He acts as if they are the program that the rest of the world should pattern theirs after.  They struggled with the NCCAA schools and he wants to bash teams that play these same schools?   I am not going to sit back and allow him to act like he knows what he is talking about.

I can crack out PC's schedule for the past 4 years and discount his ludicrous statements.


Fisk really needs to beat Rust by the way.  It will help GSAC school's QOWI.

wilburt

Griffcoach22: Fisk beat Rust last night 76-72.
Fisk University: Founded by Missionaries, Saved by Students.

Six time SIAC Football Champions 1913, 1915, 1919, 1923, 1973 and 1975.

Six NFL draft picks and one Pro Bowler!

GSAC Killer

The KILLA is back.... Two more day and its on like Donkey Kong!!!
  Conference Championship on the line this weekend..
I still like Fisk and Da Ville in the finals for winner goes on to the tourney!!

   I also like my ladies against anyone this weekend... We win it all and we might be able to host in the NCAA Tournament... Got to give the ladies some love since they don't get any on there board...

Wilburt if we can come to peace with one another then anyone can... No doubt about them drinks.. :D :P
  Hey good luck to all and may the team with the most desire and passion win this weekend..
  GO SCOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mattgrubb

Killer, you just make sure that team this weekend is the scots

Ralph Turner

Quote from: wilburt on February 22, 2006, 12:09:44 PM
Griffcoach22: Fisk beat Rust last night 76-72.

I am very happy for the GSAC!  Great job FISK!

With the uncertainty of a Neb Wes in Pool B, FISK really needed that game worse than we thought.

GSAC Killer

Hey Grubby if it was up to me you know we would be back with the back to back to back trophy but hey I am done and so are you.. Its up to the young Scots to get it done.
  I just hope they bring the fire and passion that Scots of old have always brought...
  Who cares about awards lets win the only thing that matters this week the Conference Championship...