MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[old_lion]

Old lion, I was not able to find a Massey MOV, (margin of victory) which is the sophisticated BCS style computerized rankings that Pat mentioned, but if Wesley were in D3, they would be somewhere around 355 out of 400 schools.

Ralph/Narch,

Thanks for the info ... very interesting.

I've been looking at both of the lists (with and w/o the MOV) and based on my limited knowledge of the teams involved, it seems to me that the less sophisticated of the two is the more accurate ... Strange, less is more?

Or maybe the problem is that the Massey MOV is too similar to the BCS.  

Below are the rating for the GSAC and for a lot of the teams on our schedules.

It appears my "bell-shaped curve" theory is still in tact, sort of  ...

The rankings ...
45 .... 90,94......154..........250

will fit nicely with a
  3..... 2,2 ....... 2 .............. 1 distribution. 

Chng   Team                 W   L  Rating       Sched

45     Maryville TN          19   6   0.258   -0.20 ( 75) G South

90      Fisk                  14  10   0.014   -0.22 ( 79) G South

94     Huntingdon            18   7   0.006   -1.02 (226) G South

154     Piedmont              13  11  -0.184   -0.86 (197) G South

250     LaGrange               7  17  -0.458   -0.49 (109) G South 

Per Ralph's comment that the NCAA selection committee only considers strength of schedule re to DIII schools, it seems that Maryville is in great shape in that regard.

13     Mississippi Col       24   1   0.547   -1.09 (238) American SW East

18     Transylvania          21   4   0.509   -0.10 ( 55) Heartland CAC

20     Albion                19   5   0.458    0.09 ( 30) Mich IAA

53     Centre                17   7   0.200   -0.32 ( 86) Southern CAC

63     Gordon                22   3   0.128   -1.60 (291) C Coast N

96     Emory                 11  13  -0.000    0.06 ( 34) UAA

115     Millsaps              14  11  -0.058   -0.46 (103) Southern CAC

120     Oglethorpe            12  13  -0.080   -0.14 ( 63) Southern CAC

123     Averett               18   7  -0.084   -1.11 (241) USA South

129     Rust                  13   9  -0.111   -0.73 (160) D3 Ind

135     Manchester             9  16  -0.129    0.10 ( 29) Heartland CAC

176     Rhodes                13  12  -0.235   -1.06 (232) Southern CAC

200     Hendrix               11  13  -0.303   -0.75 (163) Southern CAC

203 - 1 Anderson IN            8  17  -0.305   -0.10 ( 57) Heartland CAC

206     Greensboro            12  12  -0.310   -0.87 (200) USA South

211     Sewanee                7  17  -0.323   -0.15 ( 65) Southern CAC

238     Methodist              9  16  -0.409   -0.58 (121) USA South

284     Concordia TX           6  18  -0.607   -0.74 (162) American SW West

288 - 1 Webster Univ          11  13  -0.630   -1.60 (290) St Louis IAC

300     Ferrum                 7  18  -0.676   -1.03 (227) USA South

330     Finlandia              5  14  -0.830   -1.18 (256) D3 Ind

342     Lynchburg              3  22  -0.913   -0.88 (203) ODAC

376     Dallas Univ            3  20  -1.273   -1.61 (293) D3 Ind

[narch]

In fact, if NCCAA's are so bad why does Piedmont not play TTU anymore after playing home and home for years? It's because you can't beat them.   

it's because coach glenn is trying to get more d3 regional teams on the pc schedule to improve the chances that his team will get a pool b bid...period

narch, thanks, but I could not find how to get to the MOV ranking for Wesley College of Mississippi!  I will try to find it again.

doh...sorry ralph...should have known you knew where to find the mov ranking in general

[old_lion]

To GriffCoach22:

I get back in town and this is what I get. We are on the brink of probably the best tourney the GSAC has seen since the 2003 tourney    and you and Old Lion are still in this pissing match. Will you ever let your hate of Piedmont (read Old Lion) rest?  I am sick and tired of this between you two.  It serves no useful purpose. Don't make me write a poem about you two  ...

See Griff, here's the thing ...

Wilburt is right. Why must we go on hurting each other?

We had something special for awhile, I'll admit that ... but, it's over. My heart's just not in it anymore ... It's time to move on.

Don't beat yourself up ... it's not you, it's me.

Note:
For full emotional effect, hum "Neither One of Us" (by Gladys Knight & The Pips) to yourself as you log off.
http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/gladys_knight_and_the_pips/neither_one_of_us.html

[wilburt]

South Regional Rankings as of 2-22-2006

1 Mississippi College 22-1 24-1
2 Trinity (Texas) 16-2 20-5
3 Virginia Wesleyan 23-3 24-3
4 Randolph-Macon 19-5 22-5
T5. Fisk 9-4 14-10
T5. Maryville (Tenn.) 14-6 19-6
7 Howard Payne 17-6 18-6
8 Mary Hardin-Baylor 17-6 17-8

[Ralph Turner]

narch, thanks, but I could not find how to get to the MOV ranking for Wesley College of Mississippi!  I will try to find it again.

doh...sorry ralph...should have known you knew where to find the mov ranking in general

No malice assumed, Narch!   

[scottiedoug]

Wilburt:  Among many reasons I am bummed about having to rely on the radio this weekend is that I would really like to have a drink on and with you.  Except for the Chaney birdshot crack.

It is great that this tournament looks to be real competitive and that it matters for the NCAA tourney who wins it.

GO SCOTS!

[Ralph Turner]

Per Ralph's comment that the NCAA selection committee only considers strength of schedule re to DIII schools, it seems that Maryville is in great shape in that regard.

old lion, I recommend your using Pat Coleman's QOWI numbers on the Pool B or C boards than Massey (MOV) as a more accurate assessment of strength of schedule.

[Spencer Beaty]

This is a definite in the conference tourney.  Lagrange will not win and Bobby Golden will be taunted for being fat.  This tourney has so much uncertainty.  I look for piedmont to upset hundington.  That is who they play is it not.  Im not sure all i know is that our little men need to come up big against the other GSACers.

[old_lion]

old lion, I recommend your using Pat Coleman's QOWI numbers on the Pool B or C boards than Massey (MOV) as a more accurate assessment of strength of schedule.

Ralph, thanks, but I'm afraid I'm going to need more direction. Can you send me a link or otherwise instruct me?

[Ralph Turner]

Old lion, here is the link.

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=2870.msg488810#msg488810

[Urban Myth]

Beaty, HC plays Fisk, MC might play PC, if they beat LC in the play-in game. 

[wilburt]

Nice articles about the GSAC tourney in the Maryville paper and Montgomery paper:

http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/230931

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060223/SPORTS/602230358&SearchID=73236524161660

Go Fisk.....

[old_lion]

Old lion, here is the link.

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=2870.msg488810#msg488810

Thanks.

[mattgrubb]

you guys can't handle the pressure of a real gsac tourney
this is not like years past where it was maryville's to lose
I wish i could be there, it is going to be fantastic

[Spencer Beaty]

oh we got the "play- in game" instead of the first round bye.  If i were murvul i would rather have it like this.  Look for the winner of the HC/Fisk game to be tired especially Fisk being away from home.