MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[scottiedoug]

So Spencer, can any of these maybe recruits shoot the 3?  When are you at liberty to mention their names?  Do you think JJ and Q can become shooters?  I agree we need more than Bo...evidence Miss. College. 

[wilburt]

With due respect to my friends from East Tennessee, you all are going to need much more than someone able to shoot 3s.   It is clear from this year's games with Mississippi College and Fisk University that a major key to beating Maryville College is to have greater depth than the Scots.

What's the Scots consistent rotation this year - 8 players at best?  If you like to run and have a rotation that can easily go 9-10 deep against Maryville then the chances of beating the Scots increase, unless you play a much slower tempo style of basketball like Huntingdon. 

I'm anxious to see how Mississippi College does this weekend with that depth of talent at virtually every position.  They are and probably will be the team to beat in the South Region next season.  BTW, the team I like a lot is Lincoln University in Pennsylvania.   They should at least make it to the Final Four if not win it all this season!  That's another team oozing with talent... with all those D1 transfers on their roster...     

[scottiedoug]

William:  As is often the case, you are right.  The Scots will be harder to beat than they already are if they can go 10 deep without much dropoff, sort of like the Lady Scots (and Mississippi College's men).  I am sure this is not news to Randy.

It is also true that "The System" depends on more than pne option at a time for shooting from outside.  When Monte got hurt, that pretty much left people free to concentrate on Bo (Trinity must not have seen the movie).

So exactly how did Lincoln get those guys to give up their D1 rides? 

[wilburt]

Don't know exactly the answer to that question Doug but I would guess that it is a combination of three things as to those D1 transfers. 

A) Lack of playing time from John Chaney at Temple.
B) They were not really D1 caliber players as originally projected.
B) Lincoln University is a state school in Pennsylvania.  So their in-state tuition would be much cheaper than going to a private college.  Much like the same situation with those D3 Wisconsin state colleges...

[ohyeah]

william,

dont forget to mention that some (especially their best player) spent some time in the pen.

[njlincolnlion]

ohyeah:

Who else on Lincoln's team besides Kyle Myrick spent some time in the pen"?  Oh yeah.....no one except Myrick, that what I thought!  Regarding Myrick, I don't have any problem giving people a second chance at getting his life in order, do you?, or maybe you're just so perfect, you've never made mistakes in your life.  I see success "breeds haters"!  No ones mention's Lincoln's record prior to the last two years, when they weren't as good as they are today.


scottiedoug:

Regarding Lincoln's D1 transfer, it's only a close relationship with John Chaney and Temple.  John Chaney began his collegiate coaching career and D2 Cheyney State (HBCU) and Lincoln plays Cheyney every year.  Although Chaney has moved on, he has never forgotten his roots.  Additionally, Lincoln lost a 7 foot freshman James Bunch (who led the nation in blocked shots) two years ago to D1 Monmouth University (West Long Branch, NJ) whose team beat Fairleigh Dickenson University (NJ) last night on ESPN2 to go dancing.

[wilburt]

ohyeah,

So you don't apparently believe in the rehabilitative efforts of the Criminal Justice system? Or you don't believe in giving people second chances in life?  Which one is it?  At any rate with the number of NBA scouts looking at that player your referred to that "ex-con" may be a very wealthy one in a few months!  Only in America  8)....
Thanks njlincolnlion!!!!

wilburt

[mattgrubb]

was that a negative comment by Ohyeah, while i don't believe in the rehab system in america, i do believe in giving the guy a 2nd chance, and hopefully he does go to the NBA, which statistically speaking is a long shot, but if he does it will be great pub for D3 hoops, but one thing is for sure, he will be featured in d3 players playing abroad at the least, good for him

I still don't think he would dominate my church league, remember in church league, things change

[wilburt]

was that a negative comment by Ohyeah ....

Come on now Grubb, you and I both know that that was a snide comment by Ohyeah. 

[mattgrubb]

just giving him the benefit of the doubt, anyway, what is fisk going to do to replace all of the senoirs they are losing?
We need answers, we don't need them to be competitive every 3 years.

[ohyeah]

ohyeah:

Who else on Lincoln's team besides Kyle Myrick spent some time in the pen"?  Oh yeah.....no one except Myrick, that what I thought!  Regarding Myrick, I don't have any problem giving people a second chance at getting his life in order, do you?, or maybe you're just so perfect, you've never made mistakes in your life.  I see success "breeds haters"!  No ones mention's Lincoln's record prior to the last two years, when they weren't as good as they are today.


scottiedoug:

Regarding Lincoln's D1 transfer, it's only a close relationship with John Chaney and Temple.  John Chaney began his collegiate coaching career and D2 Cheyney State (HBCU) and Lincoln plays Cheyney every year.  Although Chaney has moved on, he has never forgotten his roots.  Additionally, Lincoln lost a 7 foot freshman James Bunch (who led the nation in blocked shots) two years ago to D1 Monmouth University (West Long Branch, NJ) whose team beat Fairleigh Dickenson University (NJ) last night on ESPN2 to go dancing.

whoa!  I wasnt making fun of anyone.  I was answering a question that was previously asked.  The story about Myrick was on ESPN....would you like to jump all over them as well.  Sorry to ruffle everyones panties on this one, but if Myrick didnt go to jail, he would not be at Lincoln.  Also, Maryville had a kid get arrested this year and he was given a second chance.  Sorry you all misinterpreted my statement. 

[Spencer Beaty]

Wilburt to tell you the truth if we get one more quality player who can put some minutes on the court we will be deep.  We got Bobby and Bradely and Jeremy and are secret weapon down low who will be in his words "throwing the bow"next year.  We got bo Q JJ Sam and Trey Brewer.  Remeber that name.  Saw him score 38 points without a 3 or a freethrow.  also Ore AKA RED is still here and i look for improvements.  So Wilburt how many is that 9...without any recruits that could start for piedmont. Sorry but i had to say it

[scottiedoug]

Y'all are a bit quick to jump on Ohyeah.  If it is true that "if Myrick didnt go to jail, he would not be at Lincoln" then Ohyeah was responding to my question with a real answer.  If he wanted to be insulting, I suspect he has the skill to do so.   And just to be clear, I see no problem at all with second chances.  More problems with having to recruit against relatively inexpensive state schools.

[njlincolnlion]

ohyeah, scottiedoug:

I am not disputing that Kyle Myrick went to jail!  I am calling ohyeah out on his statement "don't forget to mention that some (especially their best player) spent some time in the pen".  WHO else on Lincoln's team spent time in the pen?  Who do the "some" represent?  Please don't make generalizations without the facts!

[wilburt]

Wilburt to tell you the truth if we get one more quality player who can put some minutes on the court we will be deep.  We got Bobby and Bradely and Jeremy and are secret weapon down low who will be in his words "throwing the bow"next year.  We got bo Q JJ Sam and Trey Brewer.  Remeber that name.  Saw him score 38 points without a 3 or a freethrow.  also Ore AKA RED is still here and i look for improvements.  So Wilburt how many is that 9...without any recruits that could start for piedmont. Sorry but i had to say it

You may be correct Mr. Beaty, but we will see if and when Maryville plays Mississippi College again next season.  Your 9 deep against a team that went up to 15 deep this season is not much of dent...