MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

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old_lion

Quote from: wilburt on May 03, 2006, 11:08:17 AM
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1) I sincerely believe that Piedmont has an outstanding chance to do "the Huntingdon" next season.
2) You all do host the GSAC tourney next season - don't you?

1) From your lips, to God's ear ...

2) I don't know for sure. I think it is at LaGrange next season and we have it the next.

mattgrubb

i am going to go ahead and say it, I would have loved to play with Raul, but i am going to give my PG Teaun Winton a mad shout out for #1 being a tremendous PG and arguably the best the GSAC has ever seen, he had a 1400, 1500, and 1600 pt scorers on his teams, he knew how to distribute evenly, but the bigger shout out is this, Teaun is graduating this weekend and we are all proud of him for going back and finishing his degree, that is the biggest award any of us ever got for playing in the GSAC, trust that degree is worth a little bit more than a sportsmanship award or a POY award, congrats TT

On to next season Da Scots 42-0 in the GSAC average margin of victory 168 pts

the scots will be week on the perimeter, very very strong in the paint which will make a tough match up, but posts can't get themselves the ball, but there will be plenty of rebounds down there from the scots outside shooting.
I could see 6-2 in the GSAC for the scots next year and for Piedmont, hosting the tournament is always a good thing (mccord miracle), Huntingdon will be much better than 1-7, come on system speaks volume

Raul, you answered your own question, if you hit great shots then you were a ____ shooter?

wilburt

Huntingdon's GSAC regular season record the last 4 years are as follows:

2002-03  (1-7)
2003-04  (3-5)
2004-05  (2-6) 
2005-06  (6-2) *GSAC Championship

So with the GSAC POY graduating along with the rest of the Hawks seniors, please tell me how they will be better than (1-7) in the GSAC next season?  It took the Hawks 4 years to get to (6-2) with this year's seniors.  I think it will take another 4 years with Coach Duckworth's incoming recruits to repeat that feat.  IMHO, it takes that long (3-4 years) for a new player to really get accustomed to playing the Princeton system with some degree of comfort. 
Fisk University: Founded by Missionaries, Saved by Students.

Six time SIAC Football Champions 1913, 1915, 1919, 1923, 1973 and 1975.

Six NFL draft picks and one Pro Bowler!

mattgrubb

yes i agree but they have to have somebody on the roster, do they not have any rising sophs juniors or seniors who did not play that much this year but who were just waiting their turn?  that will be there strength.   Remember a guy named Josh Tummel, he sat and waited 2 years before he got his chance to shine same with Ben Robison both all GSAC and Tummel the best player in the history of the GSAC

wilburt

1. Grubb don't confuse ::) the Murvul system with Huntingdon's Princeton system.  One requires reloading, the other requires rebuilding

2. I don't know about Tummel being the best player in the history of the GSAC, but he would certainly win any GSAC slam dunk contest...
Fisk University: Founded by Missionaries, Saved by Students.

Six time SIAC Football Champions 1913, 1915, 1919, 1923, 1973 and 1975.

Six NFL draft picks and one Pro Bowler!

mattgrubb

Are you saying Tummel was not the best player the GSAC has ever seen, then i appreciate your compliment b/c i know you are deferring that to me, but Tummel's dunking, scoring, rebounding and shot blocking were dominant and he carried what was otherwise an average Randy Lambert team

Back to today, i will agree with you about the reloading and rebuilding, but i have been seeing potential out of huntingdon since duckworth has been there and i know i am crazy, i just don't think they are going to fall off that much, could be wrong but...


wilburt

I agree with you that Coach Duckworth has done an outstanding job at Huntingdon since he has arrived.  Remember I was the first or among the first to say on this board  that Allen White should be POY and Duckworth Coach of the Year.

However, when you run the Princeton system, IMHO you need to rely on a core nucleus of players who are intimately familiar with each other's decision making, passing, moves, cuts, and other tendencies.  It is a very efficient and precise offense with little room for error in its execution.  This year Duckworth's seniors were that "core nucleus" and we all saw them progress during Coach Duckworth's tenure from their freshman year to last season. 

With that said, I think Duckworth would admit that his team didn't make their big jump until they started to improve on the little things.  That didn't occur until late in Allen White and company's junior year (2004-05).  IMHO, it took a little while (a year or two or three) for these Hawks (A. White et. al) to learn how to "read" how the defenders were playing them and then to make the correct play/decision in the Princeton Offense. [Correct me if I'm wrong on that point Mr. White].  As I said, I think it will take a little while for the next core group of Hawks to do the same.  I don't think that is an easy offense to learn or run. 

P.S. I would love to see my Bulldogs run a few more pick and roll plays in their motion offense next season  ;D.

 
Fisk University: Founded by Missionaries, Saved by Students.

Six time SIAC Football Champions 1913, 1915, 1919, 1923, 1973 and 1975.

Six NFL draft picks and one Pro Bowler!

mattgrubb

As much as it pains me i will say that i agree with you, i am just hoping they are not a contender once every 3 to 4 years, some consistency out of this league would be great, so far it has been consistently dominated by the scots, which i have no problem with

And for all you young guys, when you learn how to read a screen and use it, your career will change

wilburt

Quote from: mattgrubb on May 04, 2006, 11:07:36 AM
As much as it pains me i will say that i agree with you,

Agreeing with the TRUTH (ie wilburt) shouldn't hurt that bad Grubb  :D!


Fisk University: Founded by Missionaries, Saved by Students.

Six time SIAC Football Champions 1913, 1915, 1919, 1923, 1973 and 1975.

Six NFL draft picks and one Pro Bowler!

coachwgh

1-7!!!  You're killing me with this!!  I will tell you who is going to be in the paint.  The same old folks.  Mark my words we will not turn the ball over next season.  I am resorting to ancient middle east punishments when it comes practice time next season.  
We have 18 returners.  11 of them are really working and getting better this offseason.  Those that aren't will be refilling my water next season... with a slice of lemon, please.  We are also adding a secret weapon to our staff hopefully.  

Great advice about screen reading.  I am not big fan of pick and rolls unless it is the right people but you can put any two people off the ball and down, up or flare screen and one of them if not both will be open for a shot or at least a situation that puts pressure on defensive help.  The only hard part about basketball is putting the ball in the rim everything else is easy but no one teaches the easy stuff early on so only certain people can move without the ball or give up their body for a neck crackin' screen.  High school teams are sometimes divided into two segments....1. set plays 2. penetrate and penetrate.  When a kid knows 46 set plays he never has to think about how his man is playing him or if the ball can see him after the screen.  Coaches sometimes create robots.  It is easy for me to criticize the team that penetrates until there is no air left in the ball because we fall in that trap way too much.  I really want to balance our penetration and screening out in the future.  Sometimes penetration is magical but it is pretty easy to end up with very poor spacing and force attempts.  

Speaking of high school coaches...The preseason odds just came out and Gatlinburg Pittman is the 3-1 favorite to win it all next year under the second best assistant coach ever to hit the GSAC.  

wilburt

Would doubling your projected GSAC record to (2-6) make you feel any better Coach Haynes? Meaning your team would be twice as good as last season  :D ;D :D ;D!

All kidding aside, your last post (about screens, pick and rolls etc.) was very informative and terribly accurate.
Fisk University: Founded by Missionaries, Saved by Students.

Six time SIAC Football Champions 1913, 1915, 1919, 1923, 1973 and 1975.

Six NFL draft picks and one Pro Bowler!

mattgrubb

then we all agree, it does not matter how short and fat you are, if a player can consistently come off of a screen, then they can consistently put the ball in the basket

I think i know who this secret weapon is, the Uzi

This just in from vegas, the odds on GP are now 4.5 to 1

mattgrubb

Today is Bobby Golden's Bday, Let the party begin, maybe he will get partied out and start to lose some of his 278 pounds after his bender, but who knows

GSAC Killer

They have shut down all major buffet places this afternoon in the city of Maryville.. 279... is right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow... big man...

Spencer Beaty

"Its cool to be uncool"

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