MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

Highlander · July 03, 2006, 04:05:16 PM

Killa- Waht is your thoughts on the current Scots lack of intensity when they need it the most. In years past I can remember that no one had more heart or desire in their eyes when it was cruch time. I just don't see ti in their eyes. Except for the game againest Carson- Newman.

GSAC Killer · July 03, 2006, 04:38:38 PM

The players coach has recruited in last three years don't have that Killer eye... I don't know what it is.. The Carson Newman game is not a good indicator because its a rivalry game. Where is the fight against Fisk at home??? The fight against Transy?? Its hard to recruit hungry players. Its not Coach Lambert's fault.. In order to come to Da Ville in some shape or form you have money.. I say about 95% of the kids coach has to recuit from are financially stable.. Its tough to motivate kids like that...

colincondi · July 03, 2006, 08:42:24 PM

Killer,

I'm curious as well in regards to the Miami guys you say are going to LaGrange... could you give us some more specifics? It seems to me that the Lions are going to be pretty tough... do these two or three guys make the Panthers tougher than the Lions?

Also, for any of you Maryville posters... would Lambert ever consider playing both big guys together? I know Lambert loves his 4 out, 1 in motion... would he consider playing more three out, two in since next years roster appears to be thin on the perimeter while he has the two best big men in the GSAC?

Any word on Huntingdon recruits? Or LaGrange recruits, in addition to the 2 or 3 possible Miami boys? Coach Haynes, do you care to enlighten us?

Lil Rb · July 04, 2006, 10:38:51 AM

Good to see you back Killer. The Scots biggest hurdle is themselves. First and foremost, none of the three players mentioned have the intangible statistic it takes to be the ultimate Fighting Scot like the past ten years of players had. Yes, we have the two best big men in the conference but they both want to play on the perimeter. Bo Mason "would and could" be the best point guard in the conference but continues to not get the people around him involved where he is scoring less and his teammates are scoring more and the Scots are winning big. When this happens he will have more big games like he wants, but he needs the instant gratification. He cannot play the 2 spot. He cannot defend there, mainly because he has to defend a guy coming off more screens than a point guard and he does not like contact along with having to worry more about rebounding as well. The point is his position, he just has to learn how to run the team and stick with the system when the game needs the system the most instead of jacking it 6 seconds into the shot clock.

You can't play the big men together, then coach struggles with an inside presents because they both want to be out on the floor and want the other to be inside. Neither one are good defenders, but both can be if they want to, bobby plays behind and blair gambles and fouls to much. neither one will rebound, and you can't afford to have both men in the game and not get back in defensive transition. Again, the intangibles the things that are not on a stat sheet.

Colincondi, the reason that I would pick LaGrange over Piedmont, also the intangibles. Piedmont... to pretty, not hard nosed enough, watch them warm up, I keep coming back to that, but that are so cool when they warm up before a game, it is very obvious that they are a soft team physically and mentally. I don't blame them totally, those are the type of things that a coach has to put a stop to, also how much tape do the other teams in the conference watch, it seems as though not very much. LaGrange plays their butt's off. they just need to learn a system and learn it well, and be more efficient.

mattgrubb · July 04, 2006, 12:41:12 PM

intangibles plays such a big part of a winning season, does the ball bounce your way when you need it to or do your guys go down to the floor and get it, I think a lot of these guys wait for the ball to bounce their way when they learn to go get it things will look up for them b/c they do have one of the best frontcourts in D3 potentially

I agree with Lil RB on the piedmont LC comparison, LC has always played hard, they have just needed a little bit more talent to stick around for four years and Piedmont always tries to win by getting the most talented guys possible and not the best chemistry or mix of guys. in general, D3 is not a pretty boys game, it is hard nosed, tough basketball and usually Da Ville has been tougher than all of the other GSAC schools and that toughness goes back over 10 years ago when lambert was building his current trend of success with guys like Dee Bell and John Vaughn

GSAC Killer · July 05, 2006, 08:32:47 AM

LilRB your the man.. You could not have put it any better.. Liabilities on defense with 3 of your top players will not get it done for the big games.. Hopefully they will dedicate themselves this summer???
Since I am a straight shooter I will say it like this: Fisk is year in and year out the best team in the GSAC but coaching is TERRIBLE at Fisk making them conteneders but sooner or later you know the wheels will fall off.... At Piedmont great kids, good players, don't know about their philosophies on defense and personal... Makes them an average team.... Huntingdon good system will always be a team to watch out for.. Coaching staff does a great job of getting it done with what it has...
Lastly my surprise team of the year in the GSAC the LC Panthers.. Coach Haynes is a player coach and in my 3 years of playing and watching GSAC ball has been a player away from being the best team in the GSAC.. I mean that.. I think the potential recruits he has coming in WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!
LilRB we are getting close to season time... I am excited!!

mattgrubb · July 05, 2006, 09:12:19 AM

Actually Lil Rib is always in season, didn't you all see him on ESPN this weekend, granted he was a distant 3rd in the hot dog eating contest, but he is still a perennial all star in the MLE (major league eating).

ohyeah · July 05, 2006, 11:01:04 AM

Quote from: colincondi on July 03, 2006, 08:42:24 PM
Also, for any of you Maryville posters... would Lambert ever consider playing both big guys together? I know Lambert loves his 4 out, 1 in motion... would he consider playing more three out, two in since next years roster appears to be thin on the perimeter while he has the two best big men in the GSAC?

Lambert used to always run a 3 out 2 in, with a post occasionally drifting to the perimeter. He even ran 3 out 2 in with Matt Ennen at MC. I think he recently went away from it with Bobby and Bradley b/c I dont think they are the best at kicking the ball back out to the open perimeter.

GSAC Killer · July 05, 2006, 02:50:03 PM

He can't go 3 out 2 in because we have not had a 4 man who could post for 3 years now!! Bobby in my opinion is a great passer off the block now Bradley Blair on the other hand once it goes in its coming out!!!
Very few Josh Tummels in the program!

Lil Rb · July 06, 2006, 03:02:15 PM

You are right Killer, season is slowly, but quickly approaching. See you there on Monday $:-\$ I also think you meant to say once it goes inside to Blair it is not coming out. If LaGrange had a better gym, I imagine they would get better players, everything around them is superb, except for the gym, I am sure that is very difficult to recruit to along with their history in the GSAC, not what a lot of recruits want to read about.

GSAC Killer · July 06, 2006, 03:27:41 PM

Lil RB yes that is exactly what I meant... Hopefully with the grace of God I can get out of the H%^^(&&$%$& hole I work at to get down there... I have been mad busy here...
Well Lil RB you know where the Killer might have ended up but someone snatch him up!!!

They got two and possible third kid who in my opinion would be compared to like having : Me with a consistent 3 point shot, a Walden, and a Sidney without a consistent J... But a great athlete and ballhandler at 6'5...

Lil Rb · July 06, 2006, 06:31:31 PM

Some people you cannot AFFORD to let get away, seems to me someone is always looking out for your best interest. What have you done in the great town of maryville, to be loved so much

I asked a man once how he has become to be so successful and he told me that he was not a smart man, but that he always had good people around him.

Hope to see you soon

GottaHaveHeart · July 07, 2006, 08:46:43 AM

Killer,

You need to work on that defense...you got took to the rim a few times last night at MC....

GSAC Killer · July 07, 2006, 09:47:40 AM

LilRB could not have said it any better.. That is why you always be rewarded in life... You are a good man with a great heart.. I appreciate everything you have done and I know I can count on you on anything.. Appreciate that..
You right keep GOOD PEOPLE around no matter the price!!

Gottahaveheart you are right I did get beat to the cup a couple of times last night but I got the W a lot last night!!
Very disappointed with the turnout last night of Scots players.. I tell you what Bo look great last night attacking the goal better and he is in great shape... That was the way he went about his business when he first got here as a freshman.. Very proud of him.. Just wish some of the other guys would take on the philosophy of YOU GET BETTER IN THE SUMMER as a player.... Bo if you read this man keep up the work on and off the court...

mattgrubb · July 07, 2006, 10:54:12 AM

If everyone on the team worked as hard as Bo there would be no 16-9 predictions, the problem is it is a team game, Bo can't do it alone, he can do alot, but why are his teammates letting him down, Bo is even working on his attitude, good for him. His teammates need to realize that they are not only hurting themselves by not showing up but hurting Bo, it is selfish to let your teammates down. You only get roughly 100 chances to lace em up and play D3 bball, why waste 1 of of those opportunities, if i was Bo i would make sure some of my teammates had black eyes or broken noses for not showing up