MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

GSAC Killer · January 10, 2007, 11:19:20 AM

Oh Yea I totally feel you!!! The most minutes I played were 24 minutes a night my junior year.. As for Bradley Blair I agree that he could put up Jake Baldwin numbers if he stays out of foul trouble..

By the way lets not foget the value of Alex Bowers and Quinn Bradley this year..

mattgrubb · January 10, 2007, 03:09:38 PM

seriously, by the end of the year those two children may have blossomed into fine young men,
Alex has really stepped his numbers up and Quinn has always had a grasp on the intangibles and his defense is TOUGH

Don't worry coach haynes you are still near and dear to my heart

mattgrubb · January 12, 2007, 09:56:12 AM

I imagine Huntingdon is getting ready to board the bus for a trip to maryville. well don't worry about the trip here because the trip home is going to be a lot longer and a lot more painful.

Go Scots

old_lion · January 12, 2007, 10:11:42 AM

Quote from: ohyeah on January 08, 2007, 11:39:12 PM
If Bradley Blair learns to stay out of foul trouble, he would also have better numbers then Baldwin.

Hmmm ... I don't think so ...

One major problem with your interpolating ... FG%. Baldwin may be getting twice as many minutes as Blair (405 to 204), but Baldwin has only taken 60 more shots (204 vs 144). Baldwin's FG% is much higher. If he was getting off as many shots per minute as Blair, he'd be averaging about 34 points per game.

http://www.greatsouth.org/stats/GSAC_MBB/confldrs.htm

Stated differently ... at this point in the season ... if you want to interpolate all Blair's #s up, so that he would be averaging as many ppg as Baldwin ... then it would have taken him about 100 more shots. Very good #s, but ... Definitely NOT better numbers ...

Comparison: (with Blair's #s doubled)
Player Pts Reb Ast Stl BS FG% 3FG% FT% Min
Baldwin 24.3 8.3 1.1 1.5 0.7 61.3% 23.7% 67.1% 31.2
Blair 22.8 8.2 0.8 1.0 1.0 46.5% 0.0% 64.1% 29.2

A few other considerations ...
You have to earn more PT ...
You have to be well conditioned enough to play those minutes, effectively ...
You have to be able to stay out of foul trouble ...
And it's a little easier to "get it done" when you have several tall friends to help.

GSAC Killer · January 12, 2007, 11:33:01 AM

OLD LION you are the best STAT MAN in the NATION!!

I totally agree with you and your statement on the Blair and Baldwin comparison. Well after this weekend we can finally start our yearly All Conference Battles..

Before the MC vs Hawks game on Saturday these are my picks:

Bo Mason
Jake Baldwin
Bobby Golden
Demetrius Render
and the last player is up for grabs for the 1st team All GSAC...
Posibilities a kid from Huntingdon or Jake Green...
Wishing the Scots and Rex The Batman Wallace continued success this season..
By the way have we got a commitment from that Wes Lambert kid yet??

old_lion · January 12, 2007, 01:36:42 PM

Quote from: GSAC Killer on January 12, 2007, 11:33:01 AM
Before the MC vs Hawks game on Saturday these are my picks:

Bo Mason
Jake Baldwin
Bobby Golden
Demetrius Render
and the last player is up for grabs for the 1st team All GSAC...
Posibilities a kid from Huntingdon or Jake Green...

All good picks ... IMHO, the others deserving serious 1st team consideration at this point are Mike Adams, Robby Lawrence, Antoine Maddox, and Cole Hairston.

I think the spot that is going to be "up for grabs" is the last spot on the 2nd team. I like Tyler Whitlock, Alex Bowers, and Bradley Blair.

coachwgh · January 12, 2007, 01:48:06 PM

Killer, Mike Adams could sneak on your list. He is pretty solid. I am suprised Old Lion didn't give everybody the run down on his three point exhibition that he put on at Huntingdon Wednesday. It was your typical gutt wrenching game in Montgomery except for a few minute stretch where Piedmont had their way. I love the fact that Piedmont, LaGrange, or Huntingdon could have a less than desirable record but opponents still feel uneasy about playing them. I think it speaks for the amount of effort those players put forth in each game. I leave you with this thought for the weekend......

The Panthers Need A W!!!

old_lion · January 12, 2007, 03:03:54 PM

Quote from: coachwgh on January 12, 2007, 01:48:06 PM
Killer, Mike Adams could sneak on your list. He is pretty solid. I am suprised Old Lion didn't give everybody the run down on his three point exhibition that he put on at Huntingdon Wednesday. It was your typical gutt wrenching game in Montgomery except for a few minute stretch where Piedmont had their way. I love the fact that Piedmont, LaGrange, or Huntingdon could have a less than desirable record but opponents still feel uneasy about playing them. I think it speaks for the amount of effort those players put forth in each game. I leave you with this thought for the weekend......

The Panthers Need A W!!!

No "sneaking" involved, Coach. He is definitely All-GSAC and on the "short list" for 1st team consideration.

You're right. Outstanding shooting performance at HC ... 30 points, his best performance of the year. Lately, after an early season dry spell, he has been getting back that nice shooting stroke from last year.

If we can get several guys going at once, we could still surprise a few teams. I don't know if we are going to be able to hang with CNU's huge front-line (6'8. 6'7, 6'6) tomorrow ... but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Unfortunately, they have a very good back-court to go with them. Pray for us ...

Great point re the effort!

mattgrubb · January 12, 2007, 03:20:42 PM

it is hard to earn playing time when you are bradley blair and bobby, those two have to share clock.

old_lion · January 14, 2007, 03:50:42 AM

Wow ... impressive win last night for Piedmont ... at CNU, Vs. a talented, very experienced team that returned 4 starters from last season's 20 - 8 squad.

http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/mensbasketball/mb011307.htm
http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/mensbasketball/2006-2007/cnum0113.htm

Special shout-outs to ...
Baldwin (GSAC POY?)... great all-around game ... 32 points, 13 rebounds, 3 charges drawn, and 2 HUGE FTs with 14 seconds left
Whitlock ... great all-around game ... 19 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals
Green ... 5 assists and 5 rebounds ... held Selden to 2 points in the 2nd half after he led CNU with 12 in the first half
Adams ... solid game of 9 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists
Mayweather ... hit HUGE 3 pointer, right after CNU took their first lead of the night at the 3:55 mark

Several other Lions made solid contributions ... Great TEAM effort from Piedmont!

Rikki_Tikki_Tavi · January 14, 2007, 12:17:29 PM

Quote from: old_lion on January 14, 2007, 03:50:42 AM
Wow ... impressive win last night for Piedmont ... at CNU, Vs. a talented, very experienced team that returned 4 starters from last season's 20 - 8 squad.

http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/mensbasketball/mb011307.htm
http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/mensbasketball/2006-2007/cnum0113.htm

Special shout-outs to ...
Baldwin (GSAC POY?)... great all-around game ... 32 points, 13 rebounds, 3 charges drawn, and 2 HUGE FTs with 14 seconds left
Whitlock ... great all-around game ... 19 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals
Green ... 5 assists and 5 rebounds ... held Selden to 2 points in the 2nd half after he led CNU with 12 in the first half
Adams ... solid game of 9 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists
Mayweather ... hit HUGE 3 pointer, right after CNU took their first lead of the night at the 3:55 mark

Several other Lions made solid contributions ... Great TEAM effort from Piedmont!

Old_lion your boys looked solid last night. They sure didnt let the size advantage bother them at all. They are great ball movers and they never settled for a shot, they continued to move the ball around to find the open man. Baldwin was a beast as he went for 32, 22 came in the first half. But the Lions just seemed to have wanted it more. Kudos to Coach Glenn for a great game plan that was devised for the game and his troops executed it perfectly!! Good luck to the Lions, they play a tough schedule and are much better than a 7-7 squad. Good luck today against the Monarchs.

Spencer Beaty · January 14, 2007, 02:48:56 PM

The way that the Scots played against huntingdon was not what i expected. When Bo sits the bench they move the ball but have a tough time scorring from the perimeter. With Bo on your team you have to pick your poison. He scores the ball but he has a hard time blending with the other players. What do you want from a point guard?

narch · January 14, 2007, 10:18:32 PM

old-lion - i don't know much about the rest of the players in the gsac this year, but i hope that baldwin starts to get that kind of respect (gsac poty)...he's an outstanding player, and i think he's an all-region type talent if he keeps doing what he has been doing

sorry that your boys didn't get the w today...well, really, i'm not...but you know i'll be rooting for the lions the rest of the way - good to make eye contact with you today (the kids were keeping me on my toes!)

Spencer Beaty · January 14, 2007, 10:59:23 PM

I was glad to see the former greats at the MC game. Even matt ennen was in the house. I learned a lot from sitting with my boy ennen. Matt Grubb I will see you at the next home game no doubt. It was a pleasure even though we sucked.

old_lion · January 15, 2007, 01:48:25 AM

Doh! Methodist was just the better team today!

Turnovers (17) and poor shooting (37.5 FG%, 2 for 22 on 3s!) were primary factors in our undoing.

One bright spot in the game ...
The "two Jakes" came within one assist of pulling off two double/doubles!

Baldwin: 17 points and 18 rebounds ...
That's not a misprint ... 18 rebounds! That may be a career high ...
Green: 16 points and 9 assists ...
9 assists are pretty impressive when the guys you are passing to are having a 15 for 47 game ...

http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/mbasketball/2006-07%20Stats/mcm0114.htm

I've always detested the phrase, "they wanted it more than we did" ... so I certainly wont say that ... but, for whatever reason, Methodist just seemed to have a little more energy ... to be a little sharper, than we were today. No excuses.

But I'll stick with my recurring theme. Whether our shots are falling or not ... I respect/love this team. Great guys ... never a lack of effort ... always pulling together and supporting each other. You can't ask for any more than that.

Quote from: narch on January 14, 2007, 10:18:32 PM
old-lion -
sorry that your boys didn't get the w today...well, really, i'm not...but you know i'll be rooting for the lions the rest of the way - good to make eye contact with you today (the kids were keeping me on my toes!)

Narch, good to see you, as well. That's a couple of fine looking kids you have there. They must have been blessed with the same good fortune that mine were ... an attractive mom.

Congrats to your guys ... they played well.