MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

Spencer Beaty · January 25, 2007, 09:39:12 PM

I wonder if any players actually read this stuff. Coach Haynes, you think you could have a team pow wow around the computer on some D3 HOOPS!

scottiedoug · January 25, 2007, 11:37:53 PM

Spencer: Maybe some of the Travelers have friends and brothers who might think of going to MC!

Allsky: There was talk on this board last year after Fisk left the GSAC about the GSAC and USASouth merging but nothing has come of it as far as anybody I know knows. Other suggestions were that Murvul bolt the GSAC and join the USASouth and leave Huntingdon, Piedmont, and LaGrange to fend for themselves, which I think is a bad idea. On the other hand, a four team men's league is not really viable. And then there is the fact that the GSAC has enough women's basketball teams to have this year an automatic bid to the NCAA for the winner of the league. The USASouth men's teams have not had much luck beating the Scots lately (except Averett last year) and may not think having them in their league is such a great idea.

Ralph??

Ralph Turner · January 26, 2007, 12:41:59 AM

Just got to the computer. I saw McMurry and Sul Ross. McMurry has a point guard who is returning from a broken ankle in the first minute of the opening game. Robert Moreno...he's a good one. He has stabliized the offense and freed up the number 2 guard to aid with the tranistion game. McMurry beat Sully 90-59.

I would like for Maryville to beat the NAIA schools, but let's see how the Scots do.

Congratulations to LaGrange on the Huntingdon win!

Ralph Turner · January 26, 2007, 01:02:54 AM

Quote from: scottiedoug on January 25, 2007, 11:37:53 PM

Allsky: There was talk on this board last year after Fisk left the GSAC about the GSAC and USASouth merging but nothing has come of it as far as anybody I know knows. Other suggestions were that Murvul bolt the GSAC and join the USASouth and leave Huntingdon, Piedmont, and LaGrange to fend for themselves, which I think is a bad idea. On the other hand, a four team men's league is not really viable. And then there is the fact that the GSAC has enough women's basketball teams to have this year an automatic bid to the NCAA for the winner of the league. The USASouth men's teams have not had much luck beating the Scots lately (except Averett last year) and may not think having them in their league is such a great idea.

Ralph??

Scottie, I think that the off-season is where we are going to see some action in the mid-Atlantic states. We see Wesley, Villa Julie and Hood have moved to the Captial. The MAC-Commonwealth and MAC-Freedom are losing teams. They can pluck members from the NEAC, the AMCC and the Pennsylvania AC. The USAC has vulnerability in only 7 men's schools. If they were to lose Shenandoah or CNU (only conjecture for the sake of this discussion), then the USAC men would lose the AQ. I am fascinated to see if the Capital AC wants to add football, Wesley, Salisbury, Galluadet. They need a fourth core member to become a football conference. Do Villa Julie and/or Hood add football? Then they need to add 3 associate members. (? Frostburg St surely gets the invite to become an associate?) Apprentice doesn't count, but can play games versus those teams. In 2007, the number of Pool B football bids drops to 3 and maybe to 1 in 2011, by my best guess.

There are lots of sports that are going to the AQ for the playoffs. I am away from my notes, so I cannot expound. (I think that golf and tennis are going to AQ's.) However, the USAC could add the GSAC as a southern division for men and women with reasonable parity. I don't think that hoops would be the driver, but keeping the AQ in all men's sports might make sense. This would provide some support for the GSAC teams if Spelman, Agnes Scott or Wesleyan GA did not "make" a soccer team or a volleyball team one season.

I hope that helps.

allsky7 · January 26, 2007, 07:51:22 AM

Quote from: scottiedoug on January 25, 2007, 11:37:53 PM
Spencer: Maybe some of the Travelers have friends and brothers who might think of going to MC!

Allsky: There was talk on this board last year after Fisk left the GSAC about the GSAC and USASouth merging but nothing has come of it as far as anybody I know knows. Other suggestions were that Murvul bolt the GSAC and join the USASouth and leave Huntingdon, Piedmont, and LaGrange to fend for themselves, which I think is a bad idea. On the other hand, a four team men's league is not really viable. And then there is the fact that the GSAC has enough women's basketball teams to have this year an automatic bid to the NCAA for the winner of the league. The USASouth men's teams have not had much luck beating the Scots lately (except Averett last year) and may not think having them in their league is such a great idea.

Ralph??

I admit that I have an ODAC bias but I was sorry that MC left the ODAC. Granted, the ODAC is mainly a Virginia Conf. but I always felt it was a good fit in all sports. Back in the day we didn't have much conf. success in football or baseball. Basketball won the regular season title in 85 but lost in the ODAC tourney in Salem. The story I heard for the logic behind leaving was the travel involved. That didn't carry much weight with me because due to the lack of D3 schools close by, MC is going to have to travel no matter the conf. No dis intended toward the GS Conf. but I think the USA South would be a good fit as well. It seemed to work out pretty well in football this year. I live in VA so again I have a bias here. Would love to get to see the Scots in action more. Did get to see the Ferrum football game this year.
Thanks for the feedback. Good luck to the Scots the rest of the way.

scottiedoug · January 26, 2007, 11:14:47 AM

Thanks Ralph for keeping up with this stuff. Sounds like USASouth is vulnerable to one defection in men's bball and that such a thing is possible, given all the shuffling to which you refer.

mattgrubb · January 26, 2007, 05:08:47 PM

heres the deal,
the scots are in montgomery to win, Cole hairston will probably have 30 pts and Bobo will probably have a shooting percentage around 37%. The deal is this, Bobo and the scots will get the W and some pizza. go Scots

Spencer Beaty · January 27, 2007, 11:10:57 AM

Right on matt grubb. But dont tell Bobby there is going to be pizza or he might not even come to the game.

ohyeah · January 27, 2007, 08:27:21 PM

did maryville play huntington's jv team? 29 points?

Alright Ralph, what is the lowest total score for a team in the shot clock era. Maybe that was what the Hawks were shooting for.

mattgrubb · January 27, 2007, 08:28:55 PM

Holy Toledo Batman
like my posts say, Kendal Wallace is a disciple of discipline.
29 pts for the game, WOW
I dare say the scots are playing good defense and they did hold Hairston to 10 pts
Go Scots

Spencer Beaty · January 27, 2007, 08:56:55 PM

man what a performance by the scotty dogs. Granted Huntingdon is not Florida but to hold anyone to 29 points is pretty good.

Ralph Turner · January 27, 2007, 09:02:53 PM

Quote from: ohyeah on January 27, 2007, 08:27:21 PM
29 points?

Alright Ralph, what is the lowest total score for a team in the shot clock era. Maybe that was what the Hawks were shooting for.

For a D-1 Men's game, I found this one.

Monmouth NJ 41, Princeton 21

mattgrubb · January 29, 2007, 12:32:30 PM

off to D2 King College, hopefully the scots can pull an upset and beat the tornadoes

Ralph Turner · January 29, 2007, 12:36:15 PM

Quote from: mattgrubb on January 29, 2007, 12:32:30 PM
off to D2 King College, hopefully the scots can pull an upset and beat the tornadoes

Matt, I don't believe that King has made the jump to NCAA D2.

Their website still has NAIA and Appalchian Athletic Conference on the home page.

mattgrubb · January 29, 2007, 02:08:36 PM

they are in the transition process from NAIA to D2, that is how they were able to hire Brandan Wright's high school coach. they will be in the SAC in D2.