MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[mattgrubb]

Ralph,
actually HSC is in the middle of no where, but i believe the closest incorporated town would be Hampden Sydney.

Any way you look at it, it is a pretty dang good run and i am not going to say that the small southern liberal arts colleges are at a disadvantage, look at Barton in D2 last year, or HSC in 99, but the state schools have an advantage, since all the kids are paying their own way, the lower the price, the better for the student.

I will agree that Murvul would have a tougher time making this run in a bigger/better conference.  Meaning impossible in the WIAC or the MIAA.

Any way, back to my point, beating a bad scholarship school and a good D3 school are two totally different animals, but it is nice to be the best small school in your neighborhood.

Go Scots

[scottiedoug]

Narch I agree with you about Murvul's likelihood of getting into the tournament if in a larger conference.  Still, some of the scheduling challenges the Scots have (nobody in D3 wants to come here and get beat) would be addressed.  It would be interesting to see if recruiting would be easier...but maybe getting a relatively easier shot at the NCAA tournament as a Pool B is in itself a recruiting bonus....

If the Scots could get the Andy Tipton and Tyler Gaskin local big people to become Scots (like Bobby did), it would help us deal more consistently with the Ben Strong and Mississippi College type players.   

At least Methodist, Greensboro, and Averett are willing to trade games.

[Pat Coleman]

Nobody wants to go anywhere and get beat, I hope.

[Ralph Turner]

Thanks to my friends!

I just called up google maps and saw that Hampden-Sydney is a suburb of Farmville.  I also saw that the road out of town to the south is called Abilene Rd.

Abilene Rd?     Wow!


Hmm, MSN Maps locates Hampden-Sydney College in Farmville, VA. 

[allsky7]

Thanks to my friends!

I just called up google maps and saw that Hampden-Sydney is a suburb of Farmville.  I also saw that the road out of town to the south is called Abilene Rd.

Abilene Rd?     Wow!

     Suburb.....now that is funny right there!!  Yeah...I spose you could call it that.    H-S is actually about 5 miles south of Farmville. 
     South Main St in Farmville is Rt 15 Business and turns into Rt 15 South.  Not sure what the 911 name is these days once it leaves town limits. (Farmville Hwy maybe) Abilene Rd is not Rt 15 but does run near H-S. Amazing how educational this site is huh? 
     

     

[mattgrubb]

HSC-all boys in the middle of a field

Old Lion,
Can't wait for the Baldwin v. Orr/Hernandez match up this weekend.

I will make these redneck bets with you

1. Orr/Hernandez out rebound Baldwin
2. Baldwin plays more minutes than O/H
3. Bowers is the best player on the court on saturday
4. will you take a spread of 17.5
5. O/H has 2 dunks, lets be honest Orr will have both of those
6. Over/Under of 141

Let me know which ones of those you will take and if you have any others

[Spencer Beaty]

The Scots are on a role and I am loving it.  At Tennessee Wesleyan they played great minus the first five minutes of the second half.  This is the least "me" oriented team that I have seen from Randy and the boys.  Hope everyone is ready come tourney time.  Why not even one top 25 vote for the scots Ralph or Pat?

[Pat Coleman]

Because no voter feels that Maryville is one of the Top 25 teams in the country.

[batteredbard]

Now that's about as honest as it gets.

Centre game will not be made up, so there;s go that chance to wow the Top 25 voters Can't blame the Colonels they have a nice run going and a chance to do something special in conference. Only place to put MC in would have been during DePauw week and while I would love to see them play regular season even I can see the sense in not asking your team to take on Maryville Wed and then DePauw on Sunday in the next to last week of the season.

Let the tourney fix such matters I say.
(and wouldn't that be an interesting pairing should it come to pass)

[old_lion]

Old Lion,
Can't wait for the Baldwin v. Orr/Hernandez match up this weekend.

I will make these redneck bets with you

1. Orr/Hernandez out rebound Baldwin
2. Baldwin plays more minutes than O/H
3. Bowers is the best player on the court on saturday
4. will you take a spread of 17.5
5. O/H has 2 dunks, lets be honest Orr will have both of those
6. Over/Under of 141

Let me know which ones of those you will take and if you have any others

Sorry Matt, I'm not a gambler at all ... I had to google over/under to figure out what that meant.

I do expect there will be more than 141 points scored.

I pray you are right about #2 ... as always, we'll need Baldwin to play a ton of minutes.

Re #3 ... you are always so subtle  ... sounds like you are starting your campaign for co-POY again.   

[Pat Coleman]

Now that's about as honest as it gets.

Well, it was a fairly obvious answer as well, sorry.

[mattgrubb]

The only CoPoy this year should be Orr/Hernandez for the way they have stepped up on the dominant team in the conference.  Tomorrow will tell the tale.  Anyone can score against the Bible colleges.  And i have asked around with former fighting scots and they all hated scoring 30+ b/c it usually meant they had to b/c the scots were losing and their scoring was the only thing keeping the scots in the game.  Role players are where its at, especially this year.

[old_lion]

Nice team effort for my Lions ...

http://www.piedmont.edu/athletics/mbasketball/07-08stats/pcm19.htm

Everyone got some PT ... 9 guys scored ... 5 guys in double figures ... 2 guys with double doubles (Baldwin 26 & 11, Green 10 & 11) AND ... we actually outrebounded them, 40 to 33!

Also, we moved to a positive assist to TO ratio as a team (323 to 317) for the season. Given our wide open style and lack of big guys (besides Baldwin) to consistently finish around the basket ... I think that's pretty impressive.

[old_lion]

The only CoPoy this year should be Orr/Hernandez for the way they have stepped up on the dominant team in the conference.  Tomorrow will tell the tale.   Anyone can score against the Bible colleges.  And i have asked around with former fighting scots and they all hated scoring 30+ b/c it usually meant they had to b/c the scots were losing and their scoring was the only thing keeping the scots in the game.  Role players are where its at, especially this year.

With all due respect, Matt ... I'm not sure what tale you think will be told ...

I've been doing a little analysis, looking at the hard facts with respect to both teams.

We are primarily a 6 man team. 6 guys have played 90% of our minutes this season. (Our 7th and 8th guys are both averaging about 7 minutes a game.) Of those 6, we have a 6'7 guy and 5 guys who are right at 6 feet, plus or minus an inch or two ... mostly minus.  Our 7th guy has been coming on lately, contributing a little more ... and guess what ... he's 5'11.

Murvul, on the other hand, is essentially a 10 man team. 10 guys playing 95% of your minutes ... all averaging at least 13 mpg.

1st unit:
5'10, 6'3, 6'3, 6'6, 6'7

2nd unit:
6'1, 6'3, 6'4, 6'4, 6'6

Heck, your 11th guy (Holliday) is a 6'7 Sr who started as a freshman for you guys ... and who could very well start for us (or at least get significant minutes) this year.

So I'm not sure what tale you think will be told (what will be proven) ... if Murvul wins, if Baldwin doesn't have a great scoring day, if Green doesn't have a great assists day, if Murvul kills us on the glass, etc. etc. ...

Heck, if we can pull off the upset ... I think Coach Glenn should immediately be named GSAC Coach of the Year ... and I'll expect you to present the trophy.   

Regarding your comment, Role players are where its at ... I agree 100%. Unfortunately, we just don't have all the basic pieces to cover all the essential roles.  But I'm certain we'll give it our best effort tomorrow and see what happens.

[mattgrubb]

Good Luck today Old Lion, I suspect you will be there, so i am interested in your take on how good this murvul team is compared to the past couple.

Also, if PC wins, The Grubby One will present Coach Glenn with the COY Plaque.  I think that is a tremendous idea.