MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[allsky7]

       OK.....now let me see. It is the GSAC all conference TEAM is is not? The sport is basketball is it not? There are 5 positions in basketball are there not? Not 9 like baseball....not 11 like football....not 4 like Tibetian Yak wrestling.    Hmmmmm........perhaps there should be 5 spots on each basketball all conference T-E-A-M?  The question should be how many T-E-A-M-S do you want to honor. Sure seems logical to me. Who gives a rats rear end that there are only 4 teams in the GSAC.  If two more honorees to make a full 1st and 2nd team are going to ruin the entire lot, then perhaps there should only be a 1st team. 

There are 5 positions in basketball are there not? Not 9 like baseball....not 11 like football....not 4 like Tibetian Yak wrestling.    Hmmmmm........perhaps there should be 5 spots on each basketball all conference T-E-A-M? 

All right, allsky. By introducing logic into this discussion, you taken things in a whole new direction ... I like it.

You touch on another interesting angle ... positions.

On a typical all star baseball team, do they select 5 outfielders, 2 first basemen, and 2 catchers on the 1st team? Of course not.

On a typical all star Tibetian Yak wrestling team, do they select 1 left Yaksman and 3 ball twisters? I don't think so ...

Hmmmm ... Well, maybe on each basketball T-E-A-M we select, we should pick 2 bigs, 2 wings, and a PG ...

Nah ... They'd never buy that ... makes way too much sense. 

Hey allsky,

Check this out ... another group of 4 DIII teams picked their post season awards and handled it differently.
Compare and contrast to the gsac SNAFU ...

It seems the GABCA covered all the logical bases ...

1) For the anti-dilutionist ... they picked a 1st team ... so that could mean something.  (Pat has to like that.)

2) For those of us who believe in handing out a few more attaboys to recognize the accomplishments of these amateur athletes ... they also recognized 6 honorable mentions.  Attaboy! 

3) And finally, for all the fans of logic out there ... the first team even works position-wise ... one PG, one post, one wing, and two versatile guys who could play either a wing or inside. Nice ...

http://www.piedmontlions.com/News/mbball/2008/3/4/03_04_08_mball.asp?path=mbball

To see the complete GABCA all-state awards ...

http://www.gabca.org/

     Interesting. To each his own I spose. 

[batteredbard]

I know it works by the busing rules and I dont even think its a bad draw personally.
I do think Maryville getting the long drive year after year to accomodate the ASC and now for the geographically bloated SCAC (they have conf games beyond the NCAA tourney distance rules after all) is a bit off. Im sure if Miss College had won the ASC it would make even more sense with the schools so close in proximity.

Two SCAC schools hosting because geography works for them? Its as big a mystery to me as Guilford hosting after the lost paperwork was miraculously found or the tardiness excused.

And as a personal note from my assets (rather than out of them as most of my posts are) distances in a bus on Miss roads should count double for the wear and tear caused by the relatively poor condition of the paved surfaces. They were what 49th by the roadbuilders association survey late last year, leading only Alaska!

BTB while I'll keep up with the GSAC as best I can,Im relocating up to DC to start a new job March 10 so I guess I'll now keep an eye on Shenandoah, Newport and Catholic.

[Ralph Turner]

I know it works by the busing rules and I dont even think its a bad draw personally.
I do think Maryville getting the long drive year after year to accommodate the ASC and now for the geographically bloated SCAC (they have conf games beyond the NCAA tourney distance rules after all) is a bit off. I'm sure if Miss College had won the ASC it would make even more sense with the schools so close in proximity.

Two SCAC schools hosting because geography works for them? Its as big a mystery to me as Guilford hosting after the lost paperwork was miraculously found or the tardiness excused.

And as a personal note from my assets (rather than out of them as most of my posts are) distances in a bus on Miss roads should count double for the wear and tear caused by the relatively poor condition of the paved surfaces. They were what 49th by the roadbuilders association survey late last year, leading only Alaska!

BTB while I'll keep up with the GSAC as best I can,Im relocating up to DC to start a new job March 10 so I guess I'll now keep an eye on Shenandoah, Newport and Catholic.

Actually it works against UMHB this year.  Fontbonne is clearly the 4th seed, and Millsaps is the big winner, being right in the middle of this "bus-able" group to comprise a 4-team pod.

Millsaps won this round of geographic proximity.

Good luck, bard!  At least you can continue as a South Region reporter for Hoops.

[spfan22]

Not a Millsaps fan, but having played against pretty much the same Millsaps team last year, I would say that I know them well enough to give a little rundown on the Millsaps team. 

They are very athletic, and usually with athletic teams, they have a tendency to turn the ball over quite a bit.. but not this Millsaps team.. they take care of the ball well and do a decent job on the offensive end of exploting the defense's weaknesses.  Very solid staring 5.. much better than the bench but they can go about 8-9 deep and not lose a whole bunch..

The center for Millsaps, Montgomery is one of the quickest leapers I've ever seen, gets back up in the air quick resembling a shawn marion type.. only his jumping.. not his game

Millsaps is very solid.. no obvious weaknesses .. they have quickness, shooting, athleticism, solid defensively, and play pretty smart as a whole

Dont want to give away too much on Millsaps.. since i have to represent the SCAC and pull for both Centre and Millsaps.. honest opinion is that Millsaps is actually a better team than Centre.. only because Centre misses that dominant post presence that can block shots and defend the paint

I have alot of respect for the Maryville team and especially Coach Lambert having played against Maryville 8 times from 2003-2007.. I havent seen maryville play this year.. and no disrespect to them.. but since Im pulling for the SCAC.. so I'll say Millsaps by 6 (75-69)

[Pat Coleman]

Its as big a mystery to me as Guilford hosting after the lost paperwork was miraculously found or the tardiness excused.

I've never known the NCAA to be forgiving on missing a paperwork deadline, so perhaps your original source was mistaken.

[batteredbard]

That was from 3 different folks, but as I said perhaps they were misinformed and things were just confused. But its neither here nor there now that its done. If it happened it was forgiven, if it didn't then everything was fine. Its not like Guilford shouldn't host and did. I actually tried to rearrange the backet and couldn't find anything that made more sense geographically that what the committee did. So as odd as it is I'll go with it and take back my reservations about the bracket.

BTB I can't speak for basketball but I know of several instances in spring sports where such instances have been forgiven by NCAA by neccesity.

Thanks for the good wishes. Maybe I'll be back this fall or maybe not, we'll have to see. Wish I could have made it to Jackson again but at least I got to Demorest this year. And I'll add that it was the first time I was asked for my input on how it went. Despite my musings on being relegatred to Wafflle House PC did a good job under some difficult circumstances. MC might take notes on some of their how tos for next year.

[Spencer Beaty]

I am feeling some good vibrations about this upcoming game.  I am feeling a big game by my man Q and Jared.  Those two are the ones that will propel us to Salem, I am convinced of that.  I have seen what a lock-down defender can do for a team and that is exactly what Quinn Bradely is.  Also, it will take the upmost effort and grit.  NO one on the scots shows more of these than Jared.  We need the floor general.  Salem or Bust.

[scottiedoug]

So Battered, how are we supposed to know what is going on with MC basketball without you?

[old_lion]

I am feeling some good vibrations about this upcoming game.  I am feeling a big game by my man Q and Jared.  Those two are the ones that will propel us to Salem, I am convinced of that.  I have seen what a lock-down defender can do for a team and that is exactly what Quinn Bradely is.  Also, it will take the upmost effort and grit.  NO one on the scots shows more of these than Jared.  We need the floor general.  Salem or Bust.

Spence,

It sounds like you are developing an appreciation for the PG position ... Attaboy!   

Good luck to Jared and all the Scots at Millsaps! The Hanger Dome should feel familiar for your guys. It's a similar setup to Murvul ... a basketball area within a bigger building ...

[MC wild animal]

I had a dream last night my boys win 70-68 tonight.  Then we take care of Mary Hardin Baylor, which will allow me to hit the road for the Sweet 16.  The Road to Salem begins tonight!

[pbrooks3]

I had a dream last night my boys win 70-68 tonight.  Then we take care of Mary Hardin Baylor, which will allow me to hit the road for the Sweet 16.  The Road to Salem begins tonight!

I believe it's called the Road to Maryville.  Sorry the trip to Jackson was not memorable for your Scots!  Streaks do end, and MU has witnessed the conclusion of an impressive one.

[Ralph Turner]

Great game!

[scottiedoug]

When the Scots shoot so poorly from beyond the arch, it's hard for them to beat a good team like Millsaps.  The big wins against CN and others have come with better shooting.   Ralph:  Murvul announcers said the Scots were getting good looks and just not hitting.  Is that the way it seemed to you?




Is next year another rebuilding year?

[Ralph Turner]

When the Scots shoot so poorly from beyond the arch, it's hard for them to beat a good team like Millsaps.  The big wins against CN and others have come with better shooting.   Ralph:  Murvul announcers said the Scots were getting good looks and just not hitting.  Is that the way it seemed to you?
Is next year another rebuilding year?

Doug, I was listening to the very capable broadcast crew from Millsaps.

I did seem that Murvul was as cold as I can remember them in a playoff game.

The key was Lorenzo Bailey's two 3FG's at the 5 7 minute mark.  Millsaps had not been able to put the Scots away, and that stretch was what put it out of reach, IMHO.

That is more athleticism than we have seen from the Majors, at least in the Modern (d3hoops.com) Era.

The Scots have rebuilt nicely!  Good luck next year!

McMurry has a men's tourney in Abilene in November 21-22.

Why don't y'all come on down?

[Spencer Beaty]

Grrr.