MBB: Great South Athletic Conference

[mattgrubb]

yeah you might not want to elaborate on that one for fear of a lawsuit but on a side note, i got a 24 on the ACT, i was hungover and was staring down the crack of this really hot chick who was sitting right in front of me.  With those compensating factors, i feel i made the equivalent of a 28 b/c man you should have seen this girl, she is fat now by the way, but 12 years ago, man.  I feel i learned to operate pretty dang well with a hangover though.  That is another thing you will learn in college.

JoeyMT, you seem pretty salty about something, do you feel that North Carolina looked over you in the recruiting process?

[Spencer Beaty]

Damron is going to MC.  I know there were other bigger schools looking at him.  ETSU offered him but then took it back.  I am not sure of the circumstances.  With a Damron, Watson, and Williamson backcourt, I can see big things at MC.

[JoeyMT]

When kids go to these showcases/instructional camps and their SAT/ACT scores are plastered all over the place its kinda of hard to ignore it..I'm just saying.

Unfortuantly, UNC turned me away but luckily Duke snatched me up...they were my third choice but oh well...

[Ralph Turner]

Congrats on Maryville for landing some good recruits...one question?
Since when has Maryville start letting guys with 700 SAT scores into their school??

On the math or the verbal or that new Part III?   

[scottiedoug]

Maybe ETSU noticed that Damron pretty well stunk it up in his last couple of outings....I suspect RDL can explain a few things about what a point guard is supposed to do and he will be a heck of a D3 player.

[Pat Coleman]

When kids go to these showcases/instructional camps and their SAT/ACT scores are plastered all over the place its kinda of hard to ignore it..I'm just saying.

Unfortuantly, UNC turned me away but luckily Duke snatched me up...they were my third choice but oh well...

And nobody ever takes the test again to try to do better. No handout ever has a typo. Etc.

[scottiedoug]

This discussion raises some interesting issues.  One argument is that a college that historically is committed to providing a college education opportunity for working-class and first generation students should admit kids who test poorly.  Accompanying that commitment should be an emphasis on providing the support it takes for some of those kids to succeed.  After all, it is graduating, not entering, that is the ultimate test.

Other schools choose to admit only kids whose background and preparation is likely to let them succeed without much attention.

Maryville tends toward the first example.  That is one reason the SCAC is not interested in admitting Maryville and some posters and fans feel free to make snide remarks about comparative academic "standards."

[allsky7]

This discussion raises some interesting issues.  One argument is that a college that historically is committed to providing a college education opportunity for working-class and first generation students should admit kids who test poorly.  Accompanying that commitment should be an emphasis on providing the support it takes for some of those kids to succeed.  After all, it is graduating, not entering, that is the ultimate test.

Other schools choose to admit only kids whose background and preparation is likely to let them succeed without much attention.

Maryville tends toward the first example.  That is one reason the SCAC is not interested in admitting Maryville and some posters and fans feel free to make snide remarks about comparative academic "standards."

     Thanks Scottie.....I've been searching all my life trying to figure out who I am. I now realize that I am one of "those kids". I feel much better now.   

[old_lion]

This discussion raises some interesting issues.  One argument is that a college that historically is committed to providing a college education opportunity for working-class and first generation students should admit kids who test poorly.  Accompanying that commitment should be an emphasis on providing the support it takes for some of those kids to succeed.  After all, it is graduating, not entering, that is the ultimate test.

Other schools choose to admit only kids whose background and preparation is likely to let them succeed without much attention.

Maryville tends toward the first example.  That is one reason the SCAC is not interested in admitting Maryville and some posters and fans feel free to make snide remarks about comparative academic "standards."

Well said, as usual, Scottie.

Small, private colleges have the ability to judge applicants individually, to look beyond student's resumes ... to make some subjective decisions based on their perceived potential. There are plenty of kids coming out of high school who may have less than "five star" academic credentials ... but yet they are good, solid kids who are willing to work hard and do the right things to be successful.

The fact that small, private schools have the capabilities (small class sizes, plenty of individual attention, etc. ) to help that sort of student succeed is, in my opinion, probably their greatest attribute.

[scottiedoug]

Allsky something tells me you had figured out who you are a while ago!

[allsky7]

This discussion raises some interesting issues.  One argument is that a college that historically is committed to providing a college education opportunity for working-class and first generation students should admit kids who test poorly.  Accompanying that commitment should be an emphasis on providing the support it takes for some of those kids to succeed.  After all, it is graduating, not entering, that is the ultimate test.

Other schools choose to admit only kids whose background and preparation is likely to let them succeed without much attention.

Maryville tends toward the first example.  That is one reason the SCAC is not interested in admitting Maryville and some posters and fans feel free to make snide remarks about comparative academic "standards."

Well said, as usual, Scottie.

Small, private colleges have the ability to judge applicants individually, to look beyond student's resumes ... to make some subjective decisions based on their perceived potential. There are plenty of kids coming out of high school who may have less than "five star" academic credentials ... but yet they are good, solid kids who are willing to work hard and do the right things to be successful.

The fact that small, private schools have the capabilities (small class sizes, plenty of individual attention, etc. ) to help that sort of student succeed is, in my opinion, probably their greatest attribute.

     Scottie.....you are correct. Old Lion.......right on brother!! 

     Many have joked about the academics at Ferrum. Not sure where they stand today but 25 years ago, if you had a pulse, you pretty much got in. For me, it wasn't about smarts...it was about maturity. allsky7 hasn't always been the mature intellectual powerhouse that he is today.  Matter of fact, two years at Ferrum created such an intellectual powerhouse, that even Maryville allowed me on their hallowed grounds.    As usual, I am trying to be cute here but I can guarantee you that there are many kids out there today that are just like I was oh so long ago.  8)

[mattgrubb]

Lets look at it this way, ETSU or any other college did not recruit Damron out of his high school games, they recruited him like every other kid is recruited at that level, in AAU ball.  Damron played for the Tennesee Travelers like Chris Housewright and Tim Blakeley.  Maybe the schools did not like what they saw in AAU, who cares, the bottom line is Damron is now going to have an exceptional college.  great friends, great education, and great basketball.  Remember basketball is privilege while he earns an education.  He made the right decision.

Damron, Watson, Williamson,   wow, but remember someone still has to be out Laverdiere, which won't be easy

It is a great time to be a scot.

Pat, we will have you in the orange and garnet before it is all said and done!

[Spencer Beaty]

true it will be tough for Damron to be out Jared for the starting spot this year.  Jared is a leader which should be rewarded with the majority of the starts.

[narch]

not that m'ville needed him, with all the recruits they've been hauling in, but i heard through the grapevine that the monarchs snagged a commitment from a 2 guard that both mc and mu were recruiting - he averaged around 15 ppg and 8 rebounds per game (no that's not a misprint...8 rebounds a game as a 2!)

[scottiedoug]

We are always glad for the competition to get better, Narch!  Maryville seems to have the problem of too many recruits deciding to come to Scottieville.  I'd be interested in your take on the "who to admit to your college" issue we have been toying with lately.