Pool C

[re.frank]

When is the next updated Quality of Win index going to be run?

How accurate are these in comparison to the committee's numbers?

[Pat Coleman]

We'll run through tonight's games when all are in.

How accurate? I have no idea at this point. We keep trying to crosscheck against whatever we can get from committee members. I'm glad this measurement is going away.

[Ralph Turner]

When is the next updated Quality of Win index going to be run?

How accurate are these in comparison to the committee's numbers?

Considering the "spirit" of QOWI theory and accurate application of QOWI theory to the data at hand, I think that they are more reliable.  Unfortunately, Pat has been more accurate about the playoffs than the committe on more than one occasion.    Unfortunately, that doesn't count either!  

[Ralph Turner]

We'll run through tonight's games when all are in.

How accurate? I have no idea at this point. We keep trying to crosscheck against whatever we can get from committee members. I'm glad this measurement is going away.

Just after you get the bugs out!   

[ChicagoHopeNut]

What time is the bracket supposed to be announced tomorrow?

[Ralph Turner]

What time is the bracket supposed to be announced tomorrow?

Selections tomorrow;  brackets on Monday!

[ChicagoHopeNut]

What time is the bracket supposed to be announced tomorrow?

Selections tomorrow;  brackets on Monday!

oh, well in that case what time are the selections usually announced?

[HopeConvert]

point beats la crosse... that saves one pool C...

Thank goodness!!! Crossing my fingers for Hope.

Thanks for the info on the Pool C's. I find that whole Hope is just 16-4 not 23-4 to be such a silly way of figuring this out but it is what it is.

Rydenite!

[Pat Coleman]

10ish ET. We'll have them up as soon as they come in.

[re.frank]

Where would you rank this cross section of teams for a Pool C bid after today's results?

Northwestern (Minn)
St. John's (Minn)
Rochester (NY)
Keene State (NH)
Brandeis (MA)
Messiah (PA)

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

What time is the bracket supposed to be announced tomorrow?

Selections tomorrow;  brackets on Monday!

oh, well in that case what time are the selections usually announced?

Or you can listen to Hoopsville... and hear them announced there!

We will hit the air and stay through the announcements of teams!

[David Collinge]

Where would you rank this cross section of teams for a Pool C bid after today's results?

Northwestern (Minn)
St. John's (Minn)
Rochester (NY)
Keene State (NH)
Brandeis (MA)
Messiah (PA)

Northwestern is a provisional member of D3 and as such is ineligible for a tournament berth.

[Pat Coleman]

Through Saturday:

Overall   Points   In-reg rk   Team   Region Win%   Overall
1   11.680   1   UW-Stevens Point   0.960 (24-1)   25-2
2   11.640   1   Amherst   0.960 (24-1)   25-1
3   10.864   2   Worcester Polytech   0.909 (20-2)   22-2
4   10.818   1   Lake Erie   0.955 (21-1)   25-2
5   10.815   2   St. Thomas   0.889 (24-3)   24-3
6   10.704   3   Rhode Island College   0.889 (24-3)   24-3
7   10.667   4   Trinity (Conn.)   0.810 (17-4)   21-4
8   10.654   5   Salem State   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
9   10.636   1   Washington U.   0.818 (18-4)   20-4
10   10.609   1   Mississippi College   0.957 (22-1)   24-2
11   10.577   1   St. Lawrence   0.808 (21-5)   22-5
12   10.542   2   Chicago   0.792 (19-5)   20-5
13   10.480   1   Ramapo   0.800 (20-5)   21-7
14   10.462   3   Aurora   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
15   10.423   2   St. John Fisher   0.808 (21-5)   22-5
16   10.412   3   Occidental   0.824 (14-3)   19-5
17   10.320   6   Brandeis   0.760 (19-6)   19-6
18   10.308   4   Augustana   0.846 (22-4)   22-5
19   10.296   3   Brockport State   0.815 (22-5)   23-5
20   10.292   4   Rochester   0.750 (18-6)   18-7
21   10.269   1   Catholic   0.808 (21-5)   22-5
22   10.250   4   St. John's   0.833 (20-4)   20-7
23   10.200   2   Centre   0.800 (16-4)   22-4
24   10.192   3   Virginia Wesleyan   0.846 (22-4)   23-4
25   10.143   2   Lincoln   0.786 (11-3)   18-8
26   10.120   7   Keene State   0.800 (20-5)   23-5
27   10.091   2   Wooster   0.909 (20-2)   25-3
28   10.087   5   Whitworth   0.870 (20-3)   23-3
29   10.087   6   Loras   0.826 (19-4)   21-6
30   10.083   3   Johns Hopkins   0.875 (21-3)   22-4
31   10.040   3   John Carroll   0.720 (18-7)   19-9
32   10.000   4   Messiah   0.800 (16-4)   19-6
33   9.958   4   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.875 (21-3)   21-6
34   9.917   7   UW-Oshkosh   0.750 (18-6)   21-6
35   9.909   5   Averett   0.818 (18-4)   20-6
36   9.900   4   Hope   0.800 (16-4)   23-4
37   9.885   5   King's   0.731 (19-7)   19-8
38   9.870   6   DePauw   0.826 (19-4)   22-5
39   9.815   2   Manhattanville   0.815 (22-5)   23-5
40   9.808   6   Hood   0.769 (20-6)   21-7
41   9.792   8   UW-La Crosse   0.708 (17-7)   19-8
42   9.750   7   Alvernia   0.917 (22-2)   23-4
43   9.741   7   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.815 (22-5)   22-5
44   9.741   3   Stevens   0.778 (21-6)   21-6
45   9.708   8   Scranton   0.708 (17-7)   19-7
46   9.708   5   New York University   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
47   9.708   8   Bates   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
48   9.696   6   Hamilton   0.696 (16-7)   19-7
49   9.654   9   Husson   0.846 (22-4)   22-6
50   9.632   9   Lewis and Clark   0.737 (14-5)   19-7
51   9.625   8   Guilford   0.833 (20-4)   21-4
52   9.619   5   Ohio Northern   0.667 (14-7)   19-7
53   9.609   7   Plattsburgh State   0.739 (17-6)   20-8
54   9.583   9   McMurry   0.792 (19-5)   20-7
55   9.520   4   New Jersey City   0.680 (17-8)   18-9
56   9.481   6   Capital   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
57   9.478   5   Elmhurst   0.739 (17-6)   21-6
58   9.458   9   Villa Julie   0.750 (18-6)   20-7
59   9.458   10   DeSales   0.708 (17-7)   19-8
60   9.450   7   Westminster (Pa.)   0.800 (16-4)   18-8
61   9.400   8   Utica   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
62   9.364   8   Wittenberg   0.773 (17-5)   22-5
63   9.360   10   Tufts   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
64   9.261   6   Grinnell   0.696 (16-7)   17-7
65   9.261   11   FDU-Florham   0.609 (14-9)   17-9
66   9.238   5   Richard Stockton   0.667 (14-7)   17-9
67   9.235   10   Redlands   0.765 (13-4)   17-7
68   9.231   7   Transylvania   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
69   9.200   9   Penn State-Behrend   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
70   9.190   8   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.619 (13-8)   17-9
71   9.185   11   Elms   0.704 (19-8)   20-8
72   9.148   11   UW-Whitewater   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
73   9.143   9   Carthage   0.619 (13-8)   16-9
74   9.143   6   Rowan   0.714 (15-6)   20-6
75   9.100   10   Calvin   0.700 (14-6)   18-9
76   9.091   10   Carroll   0.682 (15-7)   15-8
77   9.091   11   Baldwin-Wallace   0.682 (15-7)   18-9
78   9.091   12   Colby   0.636 (14-8)   15-11
79   9.080   13   Bridgewater State   0.680 (17-8)   17-8
80   9.074   14   Western New England   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
81   9.000   12   Pomona-Pitzer   0.688 (11-5)   16-8
82   9.000   10   Millsaps   0.714 (15-6)   18-9
83   9.000   12   Otterbein   0.600 (15-10)   16-11
84   9.000   7   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
85   9.000   15   Babson   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
86   8.958   8   SUNY-Old Westbury   0.625 (15-9)   18-10
87   8.958   9   William Paterson   0.625 (15-9)   15-10
88   8.958   16   Williams   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
89   8.952   13   Puget Sound   0.714 (15-6)   18-7
90   8.952   14   Cal Lutheran   0.619 (13-8)   17-8
91   8.905   12   Chestnut Hill   0.714 (15-6)   19-9
92   8.885   13   York (Pa.)   0.615 (16-10)   16-10
93   8.880   15   Coe   0.680 (17-8)   19-8
94   8.864   16   Buena Vista   0.636 (14-8)   17-9
95   8.857   11   Bluffton   0.619 (13-8)   18-8
96   8.857   13   Carnegie Mellon   0.524 (11-10)   12-12
97   8.833   14   Susquehanna   0.583 (14-10)   16-10
98   8.826   11   Greensboro   0.739 (17-6)   20-7
99   8.826   15   Juniata   0.652 (15-8)   16-11
100   8.789   12   North Central   0.579 (11-8)   16-10
101   8.783   17   Simpson   0.609 (14-9)   18-9
102   8.783   16   Ursinus   0.652 (15-8)   16-10
103   8.760   13   Edgewood   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
104   8.760   10   Rutgers-Newark   0.600 (15-10)   17-10
105   8.750   17   Mary Washington   0.625 (15-9)   16-10
106   8.739   14   Lake Forest   0.609 (14-9)   15-9
107   8.708   14   Ohio Wesleyan   0.625 (15-9)   18-10
108   8.704   17   Lasell   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
109   8.696   12   Trinity (Texas)   0.609 (14-9)   16-11
110   8.680   9   Clarkson   0.560 (14-11)   14-11
111   8.680   18   Westfield State   0.600 (15-10)   17-11
112   8.667   10   Geneseo State   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
113   8.667   19   Gordon   0.667 (16-8)   19-8
114   8.652   11   Vassar   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
115   8.640   18   Bethel   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
116   8.630   15   Dominican   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
117   8.625   12   Oswego State   0.583 (14-10)   15-12
118   8.609   18   Baptist Bible   0.696 (16-7)   18-8
119   8.600   20   Middlebury   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
120   8.524   19   Haverford   0.619 (13-8)   14-11
121   8.522   16   Defiance   0.609 (14-9)   17-9
122   8.500   13   Texas-Dallas   0.667 (16-8)   18-8
123   8.500   11   York (N.Y.)   0.708 (17-7)   18-10
124   8.462   20   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.577 (15-11)   16-11
125   8.458   13   Rochester Tech   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
126   8.455   15   Bethany   0.682 (15-7)   19-8
127   8.440   21   Mass-Dartmouth   0.560 (14-11)   14-13
128   8.423   22   Endicott   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
129   8.400   17   Fontbonne   0.600 (12-8)   16-11
130   8.381   18   Mt. St. Joseph   0.571 (12-9)   13-12
131   8.364   19   Ripon   0.545 (12-10)   13-10
132   8.364   14   Ithaca   0.545 (12-10)   14-12
133   8.353   19   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.588 (10-7)   15-10
134   8.346   23   Rivier   0.731 (19-7)   20-8
135   8.333   20   Hanover   0.571 (12-9)   14-11
136   8.333   14   Hardin-Simmons   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
137   8.333   16   Tri-State   0.611 (11-7)   16-9
138   8.333   15   SUNYIT   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
139   8.333   24   Bowdoin   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
140   8.320   12   St. Joseph's (L.I.)   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
141   8.318   21   Webster   0.591 (13-9)   16-10
142   8.304   25   Emerson   0.652 (15-8)   16-9
143   8.238   22   Lawrence   0.524 (11-10)   13-10
144   8.211   20   Chapman   0.737 (14-5)   21-5
145   8.208   23   Lakeland   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
146   8.200   24   Franklin   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
147   8.148   26   Wentworth Tech   0.630 (17-10)   17-11
148   8.143   25   MacMurray   0.619 (13-8)   16-9
149   8.143   21   Lycoming   0.524 (11-10)   13-12
150   8.115   27   MIT   0.500 (13-13)   14-13
151   8.105   17   Albion   0.526 (10-9)   10-15
152   8.095   21   UW-Platteville   0.524 (11-10)   13-12
153   8.091   26   Manchester   0.545 (12-10)   15-10
154   8.091   22   Wilkes   0.500 (11-11)   12-11
155   8.080   23   Widener   0.520 (13-12)   14-12
156   8.053   28   St. Joseph's (Maine)   0.632 (12-7)   19-7
157   8.000   22   Gustavus Adolphus   0.538 (14-12)   14-13
158   8.000   15   Roanoke   0.636 (14-8)   17-10
159   8.000   16   Hampden-Sydney   0.583 (14-10)   17-10
160   8.000   29   Springfield   0.462 (12-14)   12-14
161   7.958   18   Heidelberg   0.500 (12-12)   13-13
162   7.958   30   Western Connecticut   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
163   7.955   31   Eastern Connecticut   0.545 (12-10)   15-11
164   7.947   17   Hendrix   0.526 (10-9)   15-10
165   7.917   27   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
166   7.917   16   RPI   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
167   7.913   18   LeTourneau   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
168   7.900   24   Marymount   0.500 (10-10)   14-11
169   7.889   23   Pacific   0.556 (10-8)   12-13
170   7.889   19   Adrian   0.556 (10-8)   10-15
171   7.880   20   Wilmington   0.480 (12-13)   13-13
172   7.864   24   Carleton   0.500 (11-11)   11-15
173   7.826   13   Kings Point   0.565 (13-10)   14-12
174   7.818   21   Grove City   0.545 (12-10)   16-12
175   7.818   17   Union   0.500 (11-11)   11-14
176   7.783   28   Eureka   0.565 (13-10)   16-10
177   7.783   25   Lebanon Valley   0.522 (12-11)   14-11
178   7.778   19   LaGrange   0.611 (11-7)   18-9
179   7.773   18   Alfred   0.455 (10-12)   10-14
180   7.760   20   Oglethorpe   0.520 (13-12)   14-12
181   7.739   29   North Park   0.478 (11-12)   13-12
182   7.727   19   Buffalo State   0.455 (10-12)   12-13
183   7.708   20   Hobart   0.417 (10-14)   11-14
184   7.708   32   Emmanuel   0.458 (11-13)   12-16
185   7.667   26   Gettysburg   0.542 (13-11)   13-13
186   7.667   27   Pitt-Bradford   0.519 (14-13)   14-13
187   7.667   21   Oneonta State   0.476 (10-11)   11-15
188   7.667   33   Curry   0.556 (15-12)   15-13
189   7.650   14   Montclair State   0.400 (8-12)   12-12
190   7.609   28   Eastern   0.609 (14-9)   16-11
191   7.609   22   Nazareth   0.435 (10-13)   11-14
192   7.591   29   Albright   0.364 (8-14)   10-14
193   7.591   15   Kean   0.455 (10-12)   13-12
194   7.577   25   St. Olaf   0.500 (13-13)   13-14
195   7.565   30   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.565 (13-10)   14-12
196   7.565   34   Castleton State   0.565 (13-10)   15-11
197   7.545   16   New Jersey   0.409 (9-13)   12-14
198   7.542   22   Muskingum   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
199   7.542   17   Yeshiva   0.542 (13-11)   15-11
200   7.542   35   Roger Williams   0.583 (14-10)   15-10

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Where would you rank this cross section of teams for a Pool C bid after today's results?

Northwestern (Minn)
St. John's (Minn)
Rochester (NY)
Keene State (NH)
Brandeis (MA)
Messiah (PA)

Northwestern is a provisional member of D3 and as such is ineligible for a tournament berth.

The other five teams have a strong case for being Pool C teams if they do not win their conference tourneys. I know Messiah lost in its tourney already and is likely a Pool C lock. I am not sure about the conference tournament status of the other 4 teams.

[Matt Letourneau]

Catholic is #21 (with an AQ) and Hood at #40--still has a shot.

CUA is 9 spots ahead of Hopkins, with JHU playing #123 Haverford tomorrow (the Fords lost to the Cardinals at home earlier this season, btw)...I want a home game in DC!!!