Pool C

Greek Tragedy · February 21, 2008, 01:01:26 AM

OK, thanks. I had Morvian bolded because they were leading their conference...I'll change both.

Knightstalker · February 21, 2008, 01:18:16 AM

Quote from: Dave "d-mac" McHugh on February 20, 2008, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: Dave "d-mac" McHugh on February 19, 2008, 12:07:10 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 18, 2008, 10:19:04 PM
[Dave McHugh, I wonder if you can get someone from the national committee on Hoopsville to discuss all of this? I think there are a lot of people who would like to understand it better.
Working on it!
Wartburg's AD and Men's NCAA Committee Chairman Gary Grace as agreed to join us on Hoopsville Sunday.

He will be on LIVE at 6:15 PM EST Sunday.
He will be followed by ODAC Commissioner Brad Bankston and possibly Salem CC boss Carey Harveycutter.

Carey Harveycutter, what a great name. With a name like that he should be doing baseball games on radio.

magicman · February 21, 2008, 01:34:22 AM

Old School or pabegg:

Last week Stevens Tech was listed as having a 17-2 Regional won-loss record. They split 2 games during the week so why isn't their regional record 18-3 instead of 20-4 which is their overall record? NCAA also had them at 17-2 last week and 20-4 this week.

sac · February 21, 2008, 01:36:16 AM

Quote from: HopeConvert on February 20, 2008, 10:56:10 PM
Quote from: smedindy on February 20, 2008, 06:22:18 PM
They've finally determined that the Love Boat between Hope and Carthage was asinine. Thankfully!

Middlebury and Hamilton are less than 200 miles apart, I believe. Google has it as 186 miles between Middlebury, VT and Clinton, NY. However, if I was taking the trip, I'd go the scenic way through the Adirondacks.
They couldn't have done that in a year where Hope loses to Carthage?

pabegg · February 21, 2008, 06:52:40 AM

Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2008, 01:34:22 AM
Old School or pabegg:

Last week Stevens Tech was listed as having a 17-2 Regional won-loss record. They split 2 games during the week so why isn't their regional record 18-3 instead of 20-4 which is their overall record? NCAA also had them at 17-2 last week and 20-4 this week.

The 17-2 last week was wrong. (It was one of the discrepancies that I noted in my comments in the Daily Dose). All of Stevens' games end up being regional.

pabegg · February 21, 2008, 08:09:03 AM

Here's how last night's games affect things on the Pool C front.

Paterson and Farmingdale drop below the bubble, joining Stockton as teams that have little chance of getting a Pool C bid; I'd now project Stockton as the more likely NJAC winner.

Heidelberg did what they needed to do; they held their spot the good side of the bubble; Capital drops to 3rd in the region and misses the chance to clinch a Pool C bid.

Behrend joins Heidelberg and Albion as teams on the bubble, as well as remaining the favorite for the AMCC Pool A bid.

Wheaton goes up, Illinois Wesleyan goes down, but both are still on the outside looking in. This may have been IWU's last chance to play into a Pool C bid.

Occidental moves up to #2 in the West, while Cal Lutheran slips a little (they're now on the bubble while they probably could have clinched a bid with a win).

Buena Vista's loss puts them on the bubble; Loras slips ahead of them as the likely Pool A from Iowa.

St. Thomas drops to 4th in the West, but still above the bubble. Oshkosh falls from the bubble with their loss.

Net changes in Pool C: Oshkosh is out, replaced by an idle DePauw as the 17th Pool C team.

LogShow · February 21, 2008, 12:56:56 PM

Pabegg, if the NCAA committee had to meet today to choose the Pool C teams, which teams from the West are in?

pabegg · February 21, 2008, 01:23:16 PM

Quote from: LogShow on February 21, 2008, 12:56:56 PM
Pabegg, if the NCAA committee had to meet today to choose the Pool C teams, which teams from the West are in?

Whitewater definitely.
Buena Vista and Cal Lutheran are in the top 17, so they would be in if there are no Pool A upsets. If we had the usual run of upsets (5 or 6) I think that they would be out.

LogShow · February 21, 2008, 04:07:37 PM

Thanks!

Greek Tragedy · February 21, 2008, 04:29:57 PM

Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2008, 01:34:22 AM
Old School or pabegg:

Last week Stevens Tech was listed as having a 17-2 Regional won-loss record. They split 2 games during the week so why isn't their regional record 18-3 instead of 20-4 which is their overall record? NCAA also had them at 17-2 last week and 20-4 this week.

No clue, last week's overall record was 19-3, and if they go 1-1, that puts them at 20-4. I see as well that their regional record was 17-2 and should be 18-3 now, but maybe they figured they were all in-region now...don't know.

edit: missed pabegg's response...basically the same thing I said! lol Sorry for repeat.

Pat Coleman · February 21, 2008, 04:52:03 PM

Quote from: ILive4This on February 21, 2008, 12:22:34 AM
Does mappoint brag as being the official distance calculator of the ncaa?

No, the NCAA brags it.

magicman · February 21, 2008, 08:40:41 PM

Quote from: pabegg on February 21, 2008, 06:52:40 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2008, 01:34:22 AM
Old School or pabegg:

Last week Stevens Tech was listed as having a 17-2 Regional won-loss record. They split 2 games during the week so why isn't their regional record 18-3 instead of 20-4 which is their overall record? NCAA also had them at 17-2 last week and 20-4 this week.
The 17-2 last week was wrong. (It was one of the discrepancies that I noted in my comments in the Daily Dose). All of Stevens' games end up being regional.

Quote from: Old School.... (Tom Doebler) on February 21, 2008, 04:29:57 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2008, 01:34:22 AM
Old School or pabegg:

Last week Stevens Tech was listed as having a 17-2 Regional won-loss record. They split 2 games during the week so why isn't their regional record 18-3 instead of 20-4 which is their overall record? NCAA also had them at 17-2 last week and 20-4 this week.

No clue, last week's overall record was 19-3, and if they go 1-1, that puts them at 20-4. I see as well that their regional record was 17-2 and should be 18-3 now, but maybe they figured they were all in-region now...don't know.

edit: missed pabegg's response...basically the same thing I said! lol Sorry for repeat.

Thanks, pabegg & old school.

I was trying to figure out the 1st week who those non-regional games were against and the best I could come up with was maybe Middlebury. But that left 2 more and I didn't have a clue who they were. Now it all makes sense. 8)

sac · February 21, 2008, 11:56:42 PM

Good work OS.

LogShow · February 22, 2008, 01:07:00 AM

There has been quite a few Losses in the West Region...the next West Region ranking should be quite interesting.

Mr. Downtown · February 22, 2008, 11:31:05 AM

I wouldn't even know where to begin with the West Region. The only teams that are not shaky are Stevens Point, Occidental, and Whitewater (despite their blow out loss to Point).

Everyone else is on unstable ground. Honestly, if I were on the selection committee, I probably take the Automatic bids, and if they make it to the conference tourney final, either Whitewater or Point.

As a whole, I'm thinking 6 teams out of the West make it into the dance. Compared to other regions, and that's not a whole lot.

And yes, a lot of WIAC fans are going to claim that once again, the committee over looked the quality of our teams. I just don't think teams like Platteville and Oshkosh are very deserving of a Pool C bid, right now.

That can change in a hurry though, especially with this Saturday. Like I said, the West region is on shaky ground. If you want to see any other team get themselves into postition before tourney time, it will be Platteville. A loss on their home court all assures almost no chance of getting a Pool C bid.