Pool C

[Knightstalker]

If William Paterson does make the tournament, they could go fairly deep.  They play such aggressive D and they play it well that they can keep themselves in most games.

[ajsnc13]

pabegg, what do you think is bowdoin's chances of getting a pool c bid if they lose to amherst?  Does the outcome of Trinity/Middlebury effect Bowdoin's chances?

[pabegg]

pabegg, what do you think is bowdoin's chances of getting a pool c bid if they lose to amherst?  Does the outcome of Trinity/Middlebury effect Bowdoin's chances?

The middle (4-8) of the Northeast is really confusing right now, as so many of the non-numerical factors are coming into play. For instance, RIC beat Trinity, so that's one comparison that likely to go RIC's way if it comes down to it; it also becomes a "common opponent" result when comparing RIC and the other NESCAC schools.

Does the Middlebury/Trinity loser fall below Emerson if Emerson loses in their final? Possibly.

For Bowdoin to miss the Pool C bid, they would have to fall below the Middlebury/Trinity loser. Given Bowdoin's lead in this weeks' rankings, that's not likely to happen. Since Bowdoin beat Trinity and lost to Middlebury, I would think that there would be more risk if Middlebury loses that game.

Bottom line: the second and third ranked NESCAC teams are in along with Amherst, the fourth is at worst on the bubble.

[fpc85]

pabegg,
If bowdoin loses to amherst tomorrow they have a legit shot at a pool c?

[formerbant10]

pabegg, what do you think is bowdoin's chances of getting a pool c bid if they lose to amherst?  Does the outcome of Trinity/Middlebury effect Bowdoin's chances?

The middle (4-8) of the Northeast is really confusing right now, as so many of the non-numerical factors are coming into play. For instance, RIC beat Trinity, so that's one comparison that likely to go RIC's way if it comes down to it; it also becomes a "common opponent" result when comparing RIC and the other NESCAC schools.

Trinity has beaten Midd and WPI, and has a higher RPI than both, just to add to the mess the NE is.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Trinity TX beat DePauw in 2OT.  If anyone still had DePauw on the bubble, I believe it just popped.

[Mr. Ypsi]

IWU 81, Wheaton 78.  Wheaton's chances were just done in by the CCIW decision to hold a conference tourney (just like Elmhurst last year).  While I still (sorta) support the tourney, it is a definite negative for a power conference to get extra pool C teams.  It gives a second chance to worthy teams who otherwise would definitely fall short (like my Titans), but overall it will almost certainly 'kill' more teams than it benefits.  If Augie wins the tourney, the CCIW will (again!) be a one-team conference.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Albion lost to Calvin earlier tonight, which I think takes them outside the Pool C conversation.

In the NCAC, Wooster is getting beaten up at home by Wabash 68-51 with a little over 6 minutes left. It looks like Wooster will seal up a Pool C bid for itself barring a huge comeback.

UPDATE:
Ohio Northern had a late lead over Capital in the OAC but Capital gets it to OT and wins saving a Pool C bid for someone else for now.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Randy Mac squanders a huge lead to their dreaded rivals, and falls in the ODAC quarters.  If anyone had them as a bubble team, it popped.

[magicman]

Plattsburgh State comes from 14 down in the 2nd half to beat Geneseo State in the SUNYAC semi-finals 65-57.

Plattsburgh State will face Oswego State, who beat Brockport St. 87-72, on Sat. afternoon for the SUNYAC Championship.

[Hugenerd]

IWU 81, Wheaton 78.  Wheaton's chances were just done in by the CCIW decision to hold a conference tourney (just like Elmhurst last year).  While I still (sorta) support the tourney, it is a definite negative for a power conference to get extra pool C teams.  It gives a second chance to worthy teams who otherwise would definitely fall short (like my Titans), but overall it will almost certainly 'kill' more teams than it benefits.  If Augie wins the tourney, the CCIW will (again!) be a one-team conference.

At least the NESCAC only plays a single round robin, or else each team could potentially lose more than just one additional game. 

If the UAA played a single round robin, 5 or 6 teams in the conference could have had 20 wins this season.

[Mr. Ypsi]

IWU 81, Wheaton 78.  Wheaton's chances were just done in by the CCIW decision to hold a conference tourney (just like Elmhurst last year).  While I still (sorta) support the tourney, it is a definite negative for a power conference to get extra pool C teams.  It gives a second chance to worthy teams who otherwise would definitely fall short (like my Titans), but overall it will almost certainly 'kill' more teams than it benefits.  If Augie wins the tourney, the CCIW will (again!) be a one-team conference.

At least the NEWMAC only plays a single round robin, or else each team could potentially lose more than just one additional game. 

If the UAA played a single round robin, 5 or 6 teams in the conference could have had 20 wins this season.

NEWMAC plays a double round-robin.  It is the NESCAC we 'abuse' for playing a single.  If the CCIW did a single round-robin, they could probably say the same, though maybe the UAA and CCIW better not schedule too many games against each other - they went 2-2.

[Hugenerd]

IWU 81, Wheaton 78.  Wheaton's chances were just done in by the CCIW decision to hold a conference tourney (just like Elmhurst last year).  While I still (sorta) support the tourney, it is a definite negative for a power conference to get extra pool C teams.  It gives a second chance to worthy teams who otherwise would definitely fall short (like my Titans), but overall it will almost certainly 'kill' more teams than it benefits.  If Augie wins the tourney, the CCIW will (again!) be a one-team conference.

At least the NEWMAC only plays a single round robin, or else each team could potentially lose more than just one additional game. 

If the UAA played a single round robin, 5 or 6 teams in the conference could have had 20 wins this season.

NEWMAC plays a double round-robin.  It is the NESCAC we 'abuse' for playing a single.  If the CCIW did a single round-robin, they could probably say the same, though maybe the UAA and CCIW better not schedule too many games against each other - they went 2-2.

Yeah, sorry, I was just posting on the NEWMAC board so I guess it was stuck in my mind. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

I've got no stats, but I seem to recall at least 4 or 5 concussions this year in d3 alone just from reading the boards.

[Hugenerd]

I've got no stats, but I seem to recall at least 4 or 5 concussions this year in d3 alone just from reading the boards.

Thanks, everyone else can ignore my question.  I did a search.