Pool C

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

With Amherst and UMD losing in their tournaments, any chance Brandeis Men host games in the tournament?

I would think so.  It will all depend on where they fall in the rankings.  I think at least a first round game would be in order.

[thebear]

I have Brandeis 4 and Amherst 3 in the Northeast/East Pod.

I have Plattsburgh 1 & Trinity 2.

That would say all would host rounds 1 & 2.

Natural first round rivalries that match records & seeding:

Plattsburgh - Clarkson
Trinity - Coast Guard
Anherst - Elms
Brandeis - Lasell

Be interesting to see what the committee decides.

[Just Bill]

Well, performance in the last 25% of a team's schedule IS in the secondary criteria, so that's kind of like what he's talking about, but it's hard to know how often that really comes into consideration.

Read the fine print, only if the committee seeks persmission from the national committee......my assumption would be this only comes up in the event of ties.

The entire secondary criteria is only used in the case of a tie.  I don't get your point.

My point was performance at the end of the season is in the criteria, although its the secondary criteria and, without being on the committee, it's hard to know how often its really used.  I would guess rarely.

Exactly, to break ties that can't be broken with secondary criteria.

My assumption was different.  I would assume that once they invole the secondary criteria they treat each item equally.

[frank_ezelle]

I like Ralph's scenario with Millsaps hosting, but am I looking at the wrong Maryville in Missouri?  The one in the SLIAC lost in the finals of their tournament and finished the season at 13-14.

[scottiedawg]

As far as teams that are candidates for a geographically isolated bye, I only see Mary Hardin Baylor, Lawrence, and Millsaps as possibilities.  Thoughts?

How is Lawrence geographically isolated?  UWSP, UWW, Aurora and Chicago are all easy trips.

I appreciate the humor.  I mistakenly assumed Lawrence, Kansas, not Appleton, WI.

[fcnews]

Fontbonne University (21-6) from STL beat Maryville (Mo.) for the SLIAC AQ.

[sac]

I like Ralph's scenario with Millsaps hosting, but am I looking at the wrong Maryville in Missouri?  The one in the SLIAC lost in the finals of their tournament and finished the season at 13-14.

Maryville, Tennessee will be in the tournament as a Pool B.

[hickory_cornhusker]

As far as teams that are candidates for a geographically isolated bye, I only see Mary Hardin Baylor, Lawrence, and Millsaps as possibilities.  Thoughts?

Millsaps can be bused to UMHB.

Maryville MO can be bused to Millsaps.

Marville TN can be bused to Millsaps.

However, UMHB can ascend to #1 in the South with the Centre loss.

Does Chapman play PP and then the winner go to Belton (UMHB)?

What about Whitworth?

Use an away home bye 3-pod for the west coast teams.

I think Occidental will get in and you could have a 4 team west coast pod. Only one flight needed. Only problem is that Whitworth is probably the most deserving to host out of those 4 teams and that will require 3 flights.

In that case, fly Whitworth the midwest.  One flight!

That's true but how would have the 3 team pod match up with Ponoma-Pitzer, Chapman, and Occidental.  Ponoma just isn't good enough to have the bye, Occidental I don't think desrves it after losing in the conference tourney and if you give it to Chapman you have two conference teams playing each other in the first round.

[golden_dome]

As far as teams that are candidates for a geographically isolated bye, I only see Mary Hardin Baylor, Lawrence, and Millsaps as possibilities.  Thoughts?

Millsaps can be bused to UMHB.

Maryville MO can be bused to Millsaps.

Maryville TN can be bused to Millsaps.

However, UMHB can ascend to #1 in the South with the Centre loss.

Does Chapman play PP and then the winner go to Belton (UMHB)?

Here is my off-the-wall southwestern bracket...

Millsaps hosts as a #2 for geographic proximity sake and plays #3 Maryville TN
UMHB plays #4 Maryville MO.

Fontbonne beat Maryville, MO yesterday, but they also are within the 500 mile rule I think, or at least is very close.

With one less loss, I think Mississippi College would have completed this bracket with the Choctaws, UMHB and Maryville (TN) playing at Millsaps. Don't be surprised to see UMHB and Maryville at Millsaps, with the 4th team flown in. The same thing happened at MS College last year with UMHB and Maryville busing, and Occidental flown in.

[Ralph Turner]

Fontbonne College in St Louis can be bused to Millsaps (492 miles).

My bad, but it holds anyway.  FC to the Millsaps' Hanger Dome as the #4 seed in that bracket.

[Ralph Turner]

As far as teams that are candidates for a geographically isolated bye, I only see Mary Hardin Baylor, Lawrence, and Millsaps as possibilities.  Thoughts?

Millsaps can be bused to UMHB.

Maryville MO can be bused to Millsaps.

Maryville TN can be bused to Millsaps.

However, UMHB can ascend to #1 in the South with the Centre loss.

Does Chapman play PP and then the winner go to Belton (UMHB)?

Here is my off-the-wall southwestern bracket...

Millsaps hosts as a #2 for geographic proximity sake and plays #3 Maryville TN
UMHB plays #4 Maryville MO.

Fontbonne beat Maryville, MO yesterday, but they also are within the 500 mile rule I think, or at least is very close.

With one less loss, I think Mississippi College would have completed this bracket with the Choctaws, UMHB and Maryville (TN) playing at Millsaps. Don't be surprised to see UMHB and Maryville at Millsaps, with the 4th team flown in. The same thing happened at MS College last year with UMHB and Maryville busing, and Occidental flown in.

Chris, please remember that last year there was not a Chapman, getting a Pool B in southern California.

[Ralph Turner]

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That's true but how would have the 3 team pod match up with Ponoma-Pitzer, Chapman, and Occidental.  Pomona just isn't good enough to have the bye, Occidental I don't think deserves it after losing in the conference tourney and if you give it to Chapman you have two conference teams playing each other in the first round.

Losing in the conference tourney is not necessarily a disqualifying criterion for Oxy.

If the rest of the criteria for Oxy are better, and Oxy filed the paper work to host, then the committee might give them a game or two.

A few years ago, Maryville hosted in the first round for geographic reasons and Mississippi College got a bye.  Mississippi College then went to Maryville TN for the second game.

[golden_dome]

Chris, please remember that last year there was not a Chapman, getting a Pool B in southern California.

Question for you Ralph. Since it looks like the West Coast teams might all stay out there, could you see a scenario in which MS College squeezes in as the 4th team at Millsaps regional due to no travel costs, rather than flying a 4th team to Millsaps. Though they will be low nationally on the pool C list, the Choctaws should be #8 in the south region rankings and will have a 1/2 game better regional record than #7 Randolph-Macon. Seems like that is what happened with the HSU women two years ago when they played at McMurry.

[pbrooks3]

Ralph, I'm thinking Centre should host 1st round.  Got any insights as to what might happen and who might come to Danville if Centre hosts?

[sac]

Anyone know if the D3hoops crew will be doing bracket projections this year?