Pool C

KnightSlappy · December 14, 2010, 04:25:53 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 14, 2010, 04:23:20 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 13, 2010, 03:37:47 PM
New regional RPI-rankings up on the blog: http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2010/12/regional-rankings-1213.html
+1! Thanks for doing this.

Every Monday (except next Monday).

KnightSlappy · December 27, 2010, 10:35:53 AM

Latest in-region RPI Rankings: http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2010/12/regional-rankings-12272010.html

I think I'll go through my sheet and manually add hom/road/neutral games once we get a ways into January's conference schedule. Not too many neutral site games then. It'll take me a while to do, but hopefully I'll have rankings with the new OWP and OOWP weights once it's time to actually pay close attention to this stuff.

toooldtoplay · December 28, 2010, 06:59:23 PM

In your pool C worksheet, there are no NEWMAC teams. I would think both WPI and MIT would be ranked in NE.

Ralph Turner · December 28, 2010, 07:41:26 PM

Quote from: toooldtoplay on December 28, 2010, 06:59:23 PM
In your pool C worksheet, there are no NEWMAC teams. I would think both WPI and MIT would be ranked in NE.

Springfield!

Please wait a second and understand what Knightslappy is dong for us.

You may have WPI and MIT may have quality teams, but they have not demonstrated that their numbers belong in what is a mathematical calculation. In basketball, we start seeing the value of these indices when we have 22-25 games in formulae.

However there is a technical glitch in the software. There are obtrusive "yellow-ized" pixels that are cluttering the line on which Calvin is listed.

magicman · December 28, 2010, 07:43:01 PM

Quote from: toooldtoplay on December 28, 2010, 06:59:23 PM
In your pool C worksheet, there are no NEWMAC teams. I would think both WPI and MIT would be ranked in NE.

Actually KnightSlappy has 2 teams from the NEWMAC conference in his rankings. He has Springfield and he also has WPI. He just made a slight mistake and typed in MASCAC for WPI's conference probably because in the list of teams for the Northeast region, WPI and Worcester State are next to each other.. And it's still too early to be concerned about where the teams are ranked in the region right now.

KnightSlappy · December 28, 2010, 08:00:18 PM

Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2010, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: toooldtoplay on December 28, 2010, 06:59:23 PM
In your pool C worksheet, there are no NEWMAC teams. I would think both WPI and MIT would be ranked in NE.

Actually KnightSlappy has 2 teams from the NEWMAC conference in his rankings. He has Springfield and he also has WPI. He just made a slight mistake and typed in MASCAC for WPI's conference probably because in the list of teams for the Northeast region, WPI and Worcester State are next to each other.. And it's still too early to be concerned about where the teams are ranked in the region right now.

Yep, I transposed those two conferences for those two schools. It's fixed for future rankings. With the old d3hoops.com schedules, the conference pulled in automatically. This year I had to type them in by hand, and I'm susceptible to mistakes.

KnightSlappy · January 03, 2011, 02:23:46 PM

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2011/01/regional-rankings-132011.html

The latest in-region RPI rankings. My goal is to have the home/neutral/road weighting for next week.

KnightSlappy · January 10, 2011, 04:10:46 PM

It's next week, and the latest batch of RPI regional rankings are here (home/neutral/road SOS weights included!):

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2011/01/regional-rankings-11011.html

John Gleich · January 10, 2011, 04:16:45 PM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 10, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
It's next week, and the latest batch of RPI regional rankings are here (home/neutral/road SOS weights included!):

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2011/01/regional-rankings-11011.html

Nicely done!

Perhaps it's a meaningless excercize... but how different are these results from the non-SOS weighted results (I'm not sure if this is easy to figure out or not... just wondering if you know).

KnightSlappy · January 10, 2011, 04:19:51 PM

Quote from: PointSpecial on January 10, 2011, 04:16:45 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 10, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
It's next week, and the latest batch of RPI regional rankings are here (home/neutral/road SOS weights included!):

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2011/01/regional-rankings-11011.html

Nicely done!

Perhaps it's a meaningless excercize... but how different are these results from the non-SOS weighted results (I'm not sure if this is easy to figure out or not... just wondering if you know).

Here's the West Region RPI's without the weights (the number out front is their rank with weights). 'w' columns are the weighted values.

     Team     WP     SOS     wSOS    RPI     wRPI
02   St. Thomas     1.000   0.626   0.568   0.720   0.676
04   Whitworth     1.000   0.584   0.542   0.688   0.656
03   UW-Stevens Point 0.833   0.626   0.622   0.678   0.675
01   UW-River Falls   0.917   0.579   0.609   0.663   0.686
21   Lewis and Clark 0.800   0.596   0.468   0.647   0.551
05   Chapman     0.909   0.538   0.569   0.631   0.654
10   Carleton     0.625   0.597   0.595   0.604   0.602
17   UW-La Crosse     0.636   0.586   0.537   0.599   0.562
18   UW-Superior     0.769   0.534   0.486   0.593   0.557
09   Pacific Lutheran 0.625   0.572   0.598   0.585   0.605
08   Augsburg     0.667   0.549   0.586   0.579   0.606
15   UW-Whitewater    0.615   0.542   0.560   0.561   0.574

Ralph Turner · January 10, 2011, 04:37:33 PM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 10, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
It's next week, and the latest batch of RPI regional rankings are here (home/neutral/road SOS weights included!):

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2011/01/regional-rankings-11011.html

Nice job, except the line with Calvin has those "yellow-ized" pixels obscuring it.

KnightSlappy · January 10, 2011, 04:41:14 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 10, 2011, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 10, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
It's next week, and the latest batch of RPI regional rankings are here (home/neutral/road SOS weights included!):

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2011/01/regional-rankings-11011.html
Nice job, except the line with Calvin has those "yellow-ized" pixels obscuring it.

Hmmm, don't know why that keeps happening.

John Gleich · January 10, 2011, 04:44:02 PM

Wow... interesting that the "next three" WIAC teams drop as much as they do when the weighting is applied.

KnightSlappy · January 10, 2011, 04:46:45 PM

Quote from: PointSpecial on January 10, 2011, 04:44:02 PM
Wow... interesting that the "next three" WIAC teams drop as much as they do when the weighting is applied.

I think a lot of it has to do with other teams filling in the gap rather than just a big drop on their part. Especially in the case of UW-W.

John Gleich · January 10, 2011, 05:47:29 PM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 10, 2011, 04:46:45 PM
Quote from: PointSpecial on January 10, 2011, 04:44:02 PM
Wow... interesting that the "next three" WIAC teams drop as much as they do when the weighting is applied.

I think a lot of it has to do with other teams filling in the gap rather than just a big drop on their part. Especially in the case of UW-W.

True, especially in Whitewater's case... but looking at Superior... they drop below Whitewater and everybody else on the Top 12 you've posted (except Lewis and Clark, who hardly has any regional games). That just seems counter-intuitive, especially because they have a higher winning percentage than the teams the dropped below... and the teams that jumped them.

Maybe I'm a little rusty on the calculation of the RPI.