Pool C

[deiscanton]

Thanks for lettting me know that the final SOS data has been released.

[frodotwo]

NCAA final regional rankings. Links at bottom of page show regional scores.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d3

[David Collinge]

NCAA final regional rankings. Links at bottom of page show regional scores.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d3

Teams "at the table" when the selection was completed:
St. Joseph's (Long Island)
Stevens
Wabash
Lebanon Valley
Edgewood
ECSU
Ferrum
Carleton

Note the absence of Keystone and Eastern Mennonite, each #7 in their respective regions.

[Will2Win]

Can someone be so kind to post the south regions final rankings for me?? It wont display on my computer at the moment...Thanks! 

[David Collinge]

Can someone be so kind to post the south regions final rankings for me?? It wont display on my computer at the moment...Thanks! 

SOUTH         
1   Virginia Wesleyan   23-4   21-4
2   Randolph-Macon   24-4   23-4
3   McMurry   20-6   21-7
4   Mary Hardin-Baylor   21-7   21-7
5   Texas-Dallas   20-5   21-6
6   Ferrum   20-5   23-5
7   Eastern Mennonite   16-5   22-5
8   North Carolina Wesleyan   16-4   21-6

[ziggy]

NCAA final regional rankings. Links at bottom of page show regional scores.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d3

I'd still like an explanation as to how Marietta is ranked ahead of Hope.

[Will2Win]

Can someone be so kind to post the south regions final rankings for me?? It wont display on my computer at the moment...Thanks! 

SOUTH         
1   Virginia Wesleyan   23-4   21-4
2   Randolph-Macon   24-4   23-4
3   McMurry   20-6   21-7
4   Mary Hardin-Baylor   21-7   21-7
5   Texas-Dallas   20-5   21-6
6   Ferrum   20-5   23-5
7   Eastern Mennonite   16-5   22-5
8   North Carolina Wesleyan   16-4   21-6

Thanks David!!!
+k for you as soon as I have the ability to do so

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

So we can be pretty sure that IWU was the last team in, most likely over Wabash, Ferrum, and Carleton?

Yeah, I think picking IWU was a mistake.  Out of the other three, Ferrum deserved to be there.

EMU got left out on schedule, I presume.

[Ralph Turner]

Thanks David!!!
+k for you as soon as I have the ability to do so

Karma transmitted, per your request.   

[sac]

NCAA final regional rankings. Links at bottom of page show regional scores.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d3

I'd still like an explanation as to how Marietta is ranked ahead of Hope.

Absolutely, especially after the explanation the guy revealing the brackets made regarding how the criteria are supposed to be used.

Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no primary criteria that Marietta ranked better than Hope, its supposed to end there.

[Pat Coleman]

I think it's a mistake to believe that when you play so many secondary-criteria games that the NCAA won't look at them.

[sac]

I think it's a mistake to believe that when you play so many secondary-criteria games that the NCAA won't look at them.

But that's not how the guy announcing the brackets worded his opening.  Is he incorrect?

[ziggy]

I think it's a mistake to believe that when you play so many secondary-criteria games that the NCAA won't look at them.

Understood, but they also state that secondary criteria is used only when a decision can not be made based on primary criteria.

The difference in wSOS numbers for Hope and Marietta is staggering

[Pat Coleman]

I think it's a mistake to believe that when you play so many secondary-criteria games that the NCAA won't look at them.

But that's not how the guy announcing the brackets worded his opening.  Is he incorrect?

I have no doubt that Chris Fitzpatrick has no idea what goes on on the NCAA selection conference calls. That boilerplate wording is used all the time, but every committee deals with things differently.

[ziggy]

I think it's a mistake to believe that when you play so many secondary-criteria games that the NCAA won't look at them.

But that's not how the guy announcing the brackets worded his opening.  Is he incorrect?

I have no doubt that Chris Fitzpatrick has no idea what goes on on the NCAA selection conference calls. That boilerplate wording is used all the time, but every committee deals with things differently.

That is a problem, why define a process with a set of criteria and then ignore it?
The lesson I learned from this year is to go out and beat a bunch of crappy teams, SOS is the red-headed step child of primary criteria.

modify: There are certainly examples to the contrary (IWU) but I am still having a hard time figuring out the optimum balance between WP and SOS.