Pool C

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Ralph Turner

Quote from: sac on March 05, 2011, 11:03:54 PM
Going into tonight, I had 3 games as statistical toss-ups.

Augustana 88 Hope 80 OT
Mary Hardin-Baylor 70 McMurry 67
Cabrini 91 Purchase 84

I had two games as statistical mismatches

UWSP 76 Luther 56
Williams 84 Becker 63
I think that you nailed them.  Cabrini and Purchase was undecided until the last flurry of activity, late in the game.

nwhoops1903

Quote from: sac on March 05, 2011, 11:03:54 PM
Going into tonight, I had 3 games as statistical toss-ups.

Augustana 88 Hope 80 OT
Mary Hardin-Baylor 70 McMurry 67
Cabrini 91 Purchase 84

I had two games as statistical mismatches

UWSP 76 Luther 56
Williams 84 Becker 63
Two? No Whitworth?  ::) ;)  56-33 early second half.
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sac

Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 05, 2011, 11:05:46 PM
Quote from: sac on March 05, 2011, 11:03:54 PM
Going into tonight, I had 3 games as statistical toss-ups.

Augustana 88 Hope 80 OT
Mary Hardin-Baylor 70 McMurry 67
Cabrini 91 Purchase 84

I had two games as statistical mismatches

UWSP 76 Luther 56
Williams 84 Becker 63
I think that you nailed them.  Cabrini and Purchase was undecided until the last flurry of activity, late in the game.

Oh I didn't nail them, math nailed them. ;)

Math also had RMC as a favorite to beat St. Mary's.  

sac

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on March 05, 2011, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: sac on March 05, 2011, 11:03:54 PM
Going into tonight, I had 3 games as statistical toss-ups.

Augustana 88 Hope 80 OT
Mary Hardin-Baylor 70 McMurry 67
Cabrini 91 Purchase 84

I had two games as statistical mismatches

UWSP 76 Luther 56
Williams 84 Becker 63
Two? No Whitworth?  ::) ;)  56-33 early second half.

I'm sure Whitworth was the solid favorite, but Williams and UWSP were huge favorites on my sheet.

nwhoops1903

Quote from: sac on March 05, 2011, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: nwhoops1903 on March 05, 2011, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: sac on March 05, 2011, 11:03:54 PM
Going into tonight, I had 3 games as statistical toss-ups.

Augustana 88 Hope 80 OT
Mary Hardin-Baylor 70 McMurry 67
Cabrini 91 Purchase 84

I had two games as statistical mismatches

UWSP 76 Luther 56
Williams 84 Becker 63
Two? No Whitworth?  ::) ;)  56-33 early second half.

I'm sure Whitworth was the solid favorite, but Williams and UWSP were huge favorites on my sheet.
True, we are forced to play the #12 team because of geography.  
Chapman not giving up.  62-47
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Greek Tragedy

Through two rounds:

Pool C teams are 14-14 which includes 4 matchups of Pool C teams.

Williams vs. Becker in 2nd round
WPI vs. Amherst in 2nd round
UWRF vs. IWU in 1st round
Mary Hardin-Baylor vs. Texas-Dallas in 1st round

8 of 18 were one and done

4 are 2-0 and are in the Sweet 16-VWU, Williams, Amherst and Mary Hardin-Baylor
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LustyLarryintheToilet

Quote from: Old School-Greek Tragedy on March 06, 2011, 10:02:50 PM
Through two rounds:

Pool C teams are 14-14 which includes 4 matchups of Pool C teams.

Williams vs. Becker in 2nd round
WPI vs. Amherst in 2nd round
UWRF vs. IWU in 1st round
Mary Hardin-Baylor vs. Texas-Dallas in 1st round

8 of 18 were one and done

4 are 2-0 and are in the Sweet 16-VWU, Williams, Amherst and Mary Hardin-Baylor

so 8/18 Pool C were one and done, if pool B won Round 1, that means 18/42 Pool C were one and done.  Basically a wash, 44% vs 43%.  Any thoughts on if that validates the committees Pool C selections?

Ralph Turner

Quote from: LustyLarryintheToilet on March 06, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
Quote from: Old School-Greek Tragedy on March 06, 2011, 10:02:50 PM
Through two rounds:

Pool C teams are 14-14 which includes 4 matchups of Pool C teams.

Williams vs. Becker in 2nd round
WPI vs. Amherst in 2nd round
UWRF vs. IWU in 1st round
Mary Hardin-Baylor vs. Texas-Dallas in 1st round

8 of 18 were one and done

4 are 2-0 and are in the Sweet 16-VWU, Williams, Amherst and Mary Hardin-Baylor

so 8/18 Pool C were one and done, if pool B won Round 1, that means 18/42 Pool C A were one and done.  Basically a wash, 44% vs 43%.  Any thoughts on if that validates the committees Pool C selections?
Yes, I believe that it does to the best that it can.

Other factors that will impact that record include the bracketing, the considerations of travel and previous conference matchups, and geography (which trumps everything).

Each of those factors could be changed in various ways.  Substituting or changing any of those variables might give a different outcome, but we are asking whether the 19th and 20th Pool C bid would have fared any better than #17 and #18. 


Greek Tragedy

Sure, but I think there is a greater number of Pool A teams playing against each other than Pool C teams playing each other.  
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Old School-Greek Tragedy on March 06, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
Sure, but I think there is a greater number of Pool A teams playing against each other than Pool C teams playing each other.  
Which gets the higher Pool A versus the lower Pool A's.

If you look at the bracketing and seeding in D1 March Madness, the 14's, 15's and 16's are the AQ's from your MEAC'S, Southland's, Summit's, etc going against the AQ's of the Big East, ACC, Big XII, etc.

D-1's Pool C bids are in the mid-seeds, e.g., the #6-#11's.  Usually the lowest "Pool C" bid in March Madness is about a #12 or high #13.

(509)Rat

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I'm sure the CCIW have seen this...but in honor of a Pool C team, IWU

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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: (509)Rat on March 08, 2011, 04:05:50 PM
I'm sure the CCIW have seen this...but in honor of a Pool C team, IWU

Jacob Tucker Dunk Reel

Featured on Hot Clicks...which has posted a lot of DIII links as of late

Thanks for posting that.  But for the record, Illinois College (MWC) and Illinois Wesleyan University (CCIW) are two different schools. ;)

nwhoops1903

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 08, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: (509)Rat on March 08, 2011, 04:05:50 PM
I'm sure the CCIW have seen this...but in honor of a Pool C team, IWU

Jacob Tucker Dunk Reel

Featured on Hot Clicks...which has posted a lot of DIII links as of late

Thanks for posting that.  But for the record, Illinois College (MWC) and Illinois Wesleyan University (CCIW) are two different schools. ;)
That video explains how a 5'11" guy averages 7.1 rebs a game.
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Greek Tragedy

At least when the NCAA mixed up Randolph-Macon's picture by printing Randolph's picture instead, they are in the same conference! LOL  ;D :D ;)
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(509)Rat

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 08, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: (509)Rat on March 08, 2011, 04:05:50 PM
I'm sure the CCIW have seen this...but in honor of a Pool C team, IWU

Jacob Tucker Dunk Reel

Featured on Hot Clicks...which has posted a lot of DIII links as of late

Thanks for posting that.  But for the record, Illinois College (MWC) and Illinois Wesleyan University (CCIW) are two different schools. ;)

Woops! Should have read closer. I was mesmerized by the elevation and didn't stop to read the article. Well, so much for a Pool C related post...