Pool C

ScotsFan · March 08, 2011, 08:03:28 PM

That dude can do that and he's only 5'freaking11"??

If he's not invited to the national dunk contest druing the Final Four weekend, there's something wrong.

Greek Tragedy · March 22, 2011, 12:03:07 PM

Could someone be so kind to post a link to the massey ratings again. I don't feel like scrolling back a million pages to find it. Thanks!

Just Bill · March 22, 2011, 12:11:38 PM

Quote from: Old School-Greek Tragedy on March 22, 2011, 12:03:07 PM
Could someone be so kind to post a link to the massey ratings again. I don't feel like scrolling back a million pages to find it. Thanks!

Ever heard of Google?

David Collinge · March 22, 2011, 01:07:39 PM

http://masseyratings.com/

Just Bill · March 22, 2011, 01:48:28 PM

Quote from: David Collinge on March 22, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
http://masseyratings.com/

Give an Old School a link and he surfs for a day, teach an Old School to Google and he buries himself in Massey data for a lifetime.

ziggy · March 22, 2011, 02:27:40 PM

Quote from: Just Bill on March 22, 2011, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 22, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
http://masseyratings.com/

Give an Old School a link and he surfs for a day, teach an Old School to Google and he buries himself in Massey data for a lifetime.

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, set a man on fire and he'll be warm the rest of his life!

Ralph Turner · March 22, 2011, 02:30:18 PM

Quote from: Just Bill on March 22, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
Quote from: Old School-Greek Tragedy on March 22, 2011, 12:03:07 PM
Could someone be so kind to post a link to the massey ratings again. I don't feel like scrolling back a million pages to find it. Thanks!

Ever heard of Google?

The baby is rattling his brain. After a few more years of marriage, he will be totally housebroken!

Greek Tragedy · March 22, 2011, 07:19:33 PM

Where do I find the list that has the SOS, OWP, OOWP etc? Or do I have to google that as well?

frodotwo · March 22, 2011, 07:48:58 PM

Quote from: Old School-Greek Tragedy on March 22, 2011, 07:19:33 PM
Where do I find the list that has the SOS, OWP, OOWP etc? Or do I have to google that as well?

I try to use the excuse that I can't do it myself too. It only works once and then people catch on.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d3

CityD3 · June 07, 2011, 02:36:47 PM

What will happen to the automatic bid that goes to teams that are not Automatic Qualifiers now that Chapman is joining th SCIAC?? Does this open that spot up to Rust, Finlandia?? Are they planning to get rid of this Pool?

gordonmann · June 07, 2011, 04:34:46 PM

Good question. That topic is addressed in the Pool B board, which is here:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=2870.0

Just Bill · June 09, 2011, 12:01:12 PM

I found this interesting. NCAA Division II has decided to rank the order of their primary and secondary (they call it "tiebreaker") criteria. In addition they've added a "Performance Indicator" point system which looks curiously like D-III's old Quality of Wins Index. Seems confusing to me.

Linky: http://bit.ly/jgk3v2

KnightSlappy · June 09, 2011, 01:23:09 PM

Quote from: Just Bill on June 09, 2011, 12:01:12 PM
I found this interesting. NCAA Division II has decided to rank the order of their primary and secondary (they call it "tiebreaker") criteria. In addition they've added a "Performance Indicator" point system which looks curiously like D-III's old Quality of Wins Index. Seems confusing to me.

Linky: http://bit.ly/jgk3v2

QoWI was eliminated before I became interested in the bracketology scene (so I'm not really intimate with how it worked), but I don't mind it as one piece of criteria. Especially at #7. I would obviously prefer to see the points distributed with respect to RPI (not winning percentage), and I'd like to see some research done to assign better point values.

Actually, now that I think about it, I think I'd like to see a linear-weights-RPI-style QoWI system replace the results vs. regionally ranked opponents criterion. I actually think that would work well.

I think the priority ranking is just telling us what we already know. Who wouldn't have ranked it in that order, or at least very very close to that order? (combining OWP and OOWP into SOS). I like that they came out and said it though.

Just Bill · June 09, 2011, 03:27:23 PM

I'm just not real clear on how a ranked order of criteria works.

Does it mean if Team A is higher than Team B on criteria #1, you stop? If that's the case, there will hardly ever be a need to go beyond #2 or #3.

Do we evaluate all seven criteria, but then apply a weighting system to the results? Something like this?

Criteria 1 - Team A (x7)
Criteria 2 - Team B (x6)
Criteria 3 - Team B (x5)
Criteria 4 - Team A (x4)
Criteria 5 - Team A (x3)
Criteria 6 - Team B (x2)
Criteria 7 - Team A (x1)
Total - Team A 15, Team B 13. Team A wins.

KnightSlappy · June 09, 2011, 03:45:51 PM

I still don't think they're telling us the priority weight, just that winning percentage is more important than SOS (and so on down the line). I don't think they'll ever commit to a specific formula.

It's kinda like an ingredient list in food packaging. It's listed in order from most to least, but you can't directly infer the recipe.