Pool C

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KnightSlappy

Quote from: smedindy on February 22, 2013, 11:02:37 AM
I think Wooster's a lock even if they lose the AQ.

Yeah, I'd put Wooster smack between Whitworth and UMHB on the above list.

Charles

Quote from: algernon on February 22, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
This is how I see the Pool C bids lining up.  I'm heavily leaning on previous postings from Titan Q and Greek Tragedy.   Let me know what your thoughts are ....

--- NCAA bid seems certain: ----
1.   2nd NESCAC team:  Williams/Amherst/Middlebury
2.   3rd NESCAC team:  Williams/Amherst/Middlebury
3.   2nd NEWMAC team:  MIT/WPI
4.   2nd UAA team:  Rochester/Washington/Emory
5.   3rd UAA team:  Rochester/Washington/Emory
6.   2nd WIAC team:  Stevens Point
7.   2nd CCIW team:  Illinois Wesleyan/Wheaton/North Central
8.   3rd CCIW team:  Illinois Wesleyan/Wheaton/North Central
9.   2nd ODAC team:  Virginia Wesleyan/ Hampden-Sydney
--- Bid seems certain, if no AQ ---------------------------------------------------
10.   Whitewater, if no AQ
11.   St. Thomas, if no AQ
12.   Alvernia, if no AQ
13.   Rhode Island College, if no AQ
14.   Whitworth, if no AQ
15.   Mary Hardin-Baylor, if no AQ
16.   Cortland State, if no AQ
17.   Ramapo, if no AQ
18.   Stevens, if no AQ
19.   Catholic, if no AQ
--- These teams have a solid chance ---------------------------------------------------
20.   2nd HCAC team:  Transylvania/ Rose-Hulman?
21.   2nd NCAC team:  Wooster/Ohio Wesleyan?
22.   2nd CAC team:  Wesley/St. Mary's?
23.   2nd PrAC team: St. Vincent/ Thomas More?
24.   Albright?
25.   Plattsburgh State?
26.   Springfield?
27.   Rutgers-Newark?
28.   Brandeis?
29.   Concordia (TX)?

3 UAA bids, before an 11-19, really?

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#4442
Their SOSs and vRRO stand out, maybe Emory to a lesser degree than Wash U and Rochester.

Emory would also be 2nd at the table in the south with the loser of HSU and VWU going off the board quickly...(I saw that Ralph  ;D )
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Quote from: Charles on February 22, 2013, 12:39:04 PM

3 UAA bids, before an 11-19, really?
Actually I took the listing as the logical classificiation of the first 19 bids and not as a numerical listing of the selection order.  :)

algernon

#4444
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2013, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: Charles on February 22, 2013, 12:39:04 PM

3 UAA bids, before an 11-19, really?
Actually I took the listing as the logical classificiation of the first 19 bids and not as a numerical listing of the selection order.  :)

That's how I meant it ... pretty much.  The first 9 are Pool C bids, for sure.  The second 10 are Pool C bids ... if they don't win the AQ.  (So that would be the end of it, right there, if ALL of the teams among the second 10 were to lose their conference tournament (!) and need a Pool C bid.) 

Of course, that will never happen.  My guess is that about 7 of the second 10 teams are going to win their conference's AQ, which leaves another 7 bids available for the final 10 teams that I've listed (#20-#29).

KnightSlappy

Quote from: algernon on February 22, 2013, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 22, 2013, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: Charles on February 22, 2013, 12:39:04 PM

3 UAA bids, before an 11-19, really?
Actually I took the listing as the logical classificiation of the first 19 bids and not as a numerical listing of the selection order.  :)

That's how I meant it ... pretty much.  The first 9 are Pool C bids, for sure.  The second 10 are Pool C bids ... if they don't win the AQ.  (So that would be the end of it, right there, if ALL of the teams among the second 10 were to lose their conference tournament (!) and need a Pool C bid.) 

Of course, that will never happen.  My guess is that about 7 of the second 10 teams are going to win their conference's AQ, which leaves another 7 bids available for the final 10 teams that I've listed (#20-#29).

And, actually, I believe the UAA is down to only Wash U and Rochester for the Pool A given their tiebreaker scenarios, so really #20 is "in" right now too.

fantastic50

#4446
Ohio Wesleyan wins its NCAC semifinal over Kenyon, seemingly locking up a Pool C berth for the Bishops, if they don't get the Pool A bid tomorrow night (over Wooster or Wittenberg).




smedindy

If Witt beats Wooster and OWU, then I bet the NCAC will get three in the field, depending on other upsets around the nation.
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#4448
Transy is down 82-80 with 36 seconds left in the first HCAC semi-final. Could be interesting if Hanover wins the tourney knocking both Rose-Hulman and Transy to Pool C

Edit: Transy misses the front of a 1 and 1 and have to foul with 22 seconds left. Hits one of two, Transy goes the length of the floor for a quick layup. 83-82 Hanover with 14 seconds left and Hanover ball.

Edit 2: Hanover hits 2 free throws, blocks a 3 and gets fouled with 1.5 seconds left. 87-82 final and now Transy has to wait and hope their bubble hasn't burst.
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Quote from: fantastic50 on February 22, 2013, 07:39:12 PM
Ohio Wesleyan wins its NCAC semifinal over Kenyon, seemingly locking up a Pool C berth for the Bishops, if they don't get the Pool A bid tomorrow night (over Wooster or Wittenberg).

Wooster beats Wittenberg 78-66, in a game that was closer than the final score indicates.

This is the result that the Pool C hopefuls wanted in the NCAC. It'll be Wooster vs. Ohio Wesleyan tomorrow for the Pool A, but the loser is a virtual Pool C lock.

No one else will spoil the Pool C party from the NCAC.

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sac

Dubuque beat Buena Vista

BV is on Q's chart but way down the C  bubble bursting list

Mr. Ypsi

CCIW final is Augie vs. NCC.  No problem for bubble teams if NCC prevails, but if Augie can pull two upsets in a row, that's a problem.

Hugenerd

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 22, 2013, 10:16:18 PM
CCIW final is Augie vs. NCC.  No problem for bubble teams if NCC prevails, but if Augie can pull two upsets in a row, that's a problem.

How safe would Wheaton be with 6 losses and as the 4th team from the conference vying for a tournament selection?  If Rochester wins this weekend and Augie beats NCC, then Wheaton would be at best the 4th team up for consideration out of the Midwest.  They have a high SOS, so if they got to the table with sufficient spots left, they should be fine, but could an Augie win make them vulnerable also (especially if we see some more upsets this weekend)?

sac

Dodged another Pool C bubble burster earlier.  Carleton had their game with St. T down to 1 with 4:30 left but the Tommies pulled away like true future national champions do and won by 13. ;)