Pool C

[Greek Tragedy]

West
1 UW-Stout 16-4 19-5  WIAC
2 Puget Sound 15-2 20-4  NWC
3 Carleton 17-4 20-5  MIAC
4 Occidental 11-3 18-4  SCIAC  (CMS has the Pool A.)
5 UW-Whitewater 15-5 19-5  WIAC
6 UW-La Crosse 17-6 19-6  WIAC
7 Wartburg 17-4 19-5   IIAC
8 St. Thomas 18-5 20-5  MIAC
UR  CMS  SCIAC Pool A


Here are the 27 Top Pool C candidates from the Regional Rankings.

Updated thru 23 Feb 06.

Ralph,  Stout is not the "leader" in the WIAC.  So, you'd actually cross out Whitewater (which actually helps the WIAC's chances of getting two in).  Whitewater hosts Stout in the WIAC final tomorrow and if Whitewater wins, I think Stout is a lock for a Pool C bid.

[joehakes]

Ralph,

Sacrifice is what it's all about.  We (Gordon) just ran out of gas and played a team that had its back to wall in Colby-Sawyer.  We are very hopeful for a Pool C bid.  It would be a great step in our program.

[Greek Tragedy]

I agree with Point Special and knightstalker that the WIAC is a real moving target!

Amazingly, the top two seeds actually advanced to the championship in the WIAC tourney this year.  #1 Whitewater hosts #2 Stout, weird  .  This is just the 2nd time since the tourney began (1999) that #1 and #2 met in the final.

2005:  #2 Point beats #4 Whitewater (top four advance in quarters)
2004:  #2 Point beats #4 Platteville (#6 Osh beats #3 WW)
2003:  #4 Oshkosh beats #2 Whitewater (#6 EC beats #3 RF)
2002:  #1 Oshkosh beats #3 Whitewater (#5 RF beats #4 LAX)
2001:  #4 Eau Claire beat #6 Oshkosh (#8 ST beats #1 WW by 41! #6 OSH beats #3 RF, #7 PLT beats #2 SP)
2000:  #1 Point beats #2 Eau Claire (#5 SUP beats #4 RF, #6 OSH beats #3 PL)
1999:  #1 Platteville beats #6 Stout (#5 SP beats #4 WW, #6 ST beats #3 EC)

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I've been a big Willamette fan all year, but with that loss last night, I'm starting to wonder, especially since they couldn't pull a regional ranking.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

So, who have we got so far in Pool C:  I think Ramdolph-Macon, York and Gordon are locks.

Other contenders: Occidental, Wartburg, Willamette, NYU, Lakeland, LaCrosse, NJCU.

I only included teams that have lost already, not those teams that will lose (MIAC, CCIW, NESCAC, etc).

Do any of you think anyone else should be on this list at this point?

[Knightstalker]

So, who have we got so far in Pool C:  I think Ramdolph-Macon, York and Gordon are locks.

Other contenders: Occidental, Wartburg, Willamette, NYU, Lakeland, LaCrosse, NJCU.

I only included teams that have lost already, not those teams that will lose (MIAC, CCIW, NESCAC, etc).

Do any of you think anyone else should be on this list at this point?

I am reposting this from yesterday, I think these 16 will be under consideration.
3 New Jersey City 16-7 17-8  NJAC
44 New Jersey City    9.739    16-7  NJAC

5 Richard Stockton 15-7 17-8  NJAC
42 Richard Stockton    9.783    15-8  NJAC

3 New York University 17-6 18-6  UAA
47 New York University    9.696    17-6  UAA

4 Utica 18-5 19-5  E8
49 Utica    9.652    18-5  E8

3 Hope 15-2 23-2  MIAA
38 Hope    9.875    14-2  MIAA

4 Carroll 18-3 20-3  MWC
25 Carroll    10.095    18-3  MWC

5 Illinois Wesleyan 14-5 19-5  CCIW
27 Illinois Wesleyan    10.053    14-5 CCIW

6 North Central 14-5 20-5  CCIW
37 North Central    9.895    14-5  CCIW

7 Washington U. 14-5 17-7  UAA
24 Washington U.    10.111    13-5  UAA

3 Tufts 19-4 19-5  NESCAC
7 Tufts    10.826    19-4  NESCAC

5 Trinity (Conn.) 15-4 18-5  NESCAC
33 Trinity (Conn.)    10.000    15-4  NESCAC

6 Bates 15-5 19-5  NESCAC
28 Bates    10.048    16-5  NESCAC

4 Randolph-Macon 19-5 22-5   ODAC
23 Randolph-Macon    10.125    19-5  ODAC

4 Occidental 11-3 18-4  SCIAC
26 Occidental    10.071    11-3  SCIAC CMS has the Pool A.

5 UW-Whitewater 15-5 19-5  WIAC
35 UW-Whitewater    9.950    15-5  WIAC

6 UW-La Crosse 17-6 19-6  WIAC
39 UW-La Crosse    9.870    17-6  WIAC18-5 

Regarding the NJAC teams;
NJCU, TCNJ and Stockton each have an additional regional loss.  Ramapo has picked up two regional wins.  RU-Newark has an additional regional loss and win.  WPU has one more regional win.
Ramapo and WPU meet tomorrow afternoon in Wayne, NJ for the NJAC title.  Ramapo has already picked up two 15 point wins and a loss to WPU will be the maximum points for a loss.
Ramapo has put themselves back in the pool C picture.  WPU with a loss will be in the pool C picture.  Stockton and NJCU are bubble teams, the bubble hasn't burst yet but it is getting bigger and thinner.  RU-Newark and TCNJ are on the bubble, but they are on the side of the bubble that is getting real slippery.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I was trying to keep it down to teams already in Pool C, but hey, whatever.

[Knightstalker]

I think the three listed are the only teams that have locked up a berth.  I was just outlining the NJAC possiblilities slim as they are.

[smedindy]

Knightstalker - you don't have Wooster or Witt on there. One of those will get a C.

[Knightstalker]

I was just using the teams that Ralph had not crossed off his lists yesterday.  There were teams that Ralph overlooked on one or both or that I missed on one of both lists.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

One game tonight will gurantee us a Pool C contender:

Augie vs IWU

A few games could give us some candidates with upsets:

Miss Coll vs Sul Ross State
St John Fisher vs Rochester Tech
Baldwin-Wallace vs Wilmington
Baruch vs York (NY)
Calvin vs Kalamazoo
Howard Payne vs TX-Dallas
Trinity (TX) vs Rhodes

[TeeDub]

So, who have we got so far in Pool C:  I think Ramdolph-Macon, York and Gordon are locks.

Other contenders: Occidental, Wartburg, Willamette, NYU, Lakeland, LaCrosse, NJCU.

I only included teams that have lost already, not those teams that will lose (MIAC, CCIW, NESCAC, etc).

Do any of you think anyone else should be on this list at this point?

With Oxy's HUGE win over Caltech last night, they have to be a lock....

[smedindy]

That win may hurt their QOWI, though.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

It does hurt their QOWI and I sure hope you're being sarcastic Jordis.

[TeeDub]

It does hurt their QOWI and I sure hope you're being sarcastic Jordis.

C'mon, Hoops, give me some credit...