Pool C

[Greek Tragedy]

Knightslappy,

Is that posted on your website? Saw eff. ranking for 12/18/13.

Updated numbers have not been posted. Hopefully I'll have both efficiency rankings and RPI rankings updated on the site after this upcoming weekend. Maybe I'll post an RPI update after Wednesday.

Knightslappy,

Is that posted on your website? Saw eff. ranking for 12/18/13.

The one above it more recent... from just under a week ago (after Wed's games).

I started going through and picking out the highest rated RPI from each conference... but didn't finish.

What is John talking about? Maybe something doesn't come up on my phone. 

[KnightSlappy]

Knightslappy,

Is that posted on your website? Saw eff. ranking for 12/18/13.

Updated numbers have not been posted. Hopefully I'll have both efficiency rankings and RPI rankings updated on the site after this upcoming weekend. Maybe I'll post an RPI update after Wednesday.

Knightslappy,

Is that posted on your website? Saw eff. ranking for 12/18/13.

The one above it more recent... from just under a week ago (after Wed's games).

I started going through and picking out the highest rated RPI from each conference... but didn't finish.

What is John talking about? Maybe something doesn't come up on my phone. 

I've posted a few sets of RPI numbers here on the board. This is different from the efficiency calcs.

[John Gleich]

Knightslappy,

Is that posted on your website? Saw eff. ranking for 12/18/13.

Updated numbers have not been posted. Hopefully I'll have both efficiency rankings and RPI rankings updated on the site after this upcoming weekend. Maybe I'll post an RPI update after Wednesday.

Knightslappy,

Is that posted on your website? Saw eff. ranking for 12/18/13.

The one above it more recent... from just under a week ago (after Wed's games).

I started going through and picking out the highest rated RPI from each conference... but didn't finish.

What is John talking about? Maybe something doesn't come up on my phone. 

I've posted a few sets of RPI numbers here on the board. This is different from the efficiency calcs.

Chalk that up to poor reading comprehension, perhaps...? Or maybe I just don't understand the difference between the two?

[KnightSlappy]

I have updated the "regional rankings" data on my site.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/2010-2011-d3-mens-regional-rankings.html

I think we're missing a few scores, but it should be fairly complete. We're one week away from the first set of rankings.

[Greek Tragedy]

Bringing this over from the Top 25 board...

When do the 1st regional rankings come out?

Usually the 1st part of February. Last year the 1st set was released on Wed. Feb. 6th, 2nd set on Feb.13th, 3rd set on Feb 20th, and the final set on Feb. 27th was the one we didn't get to see. The NCAA bids were announced on Feb. 28th I believe.

Last year the final day of the  conference tournaments was on Feb. 24th. This year the final day of the season is a week later. The last conference tournament won't be over until March 2nd. If the NCAA follows the same format they have in the past  of 3 published regional rankings and 1 hidden one, then I'm guessing this year it might be February 12th before we see the first set. Then one would follow on the 19th, the 26th, and the hidden one on March 5th. Of course they could give us an extra one this year and make the 1st one on Feb.5th, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Close... but...

There will be a total of four regional rankings with three of them being released to the public and one kept private at the end of the year. The regional rankings come out on Wednesdays involving games and records through the previous Sunday. Regional committees discuss their rankings and then vote on Mondays... the national committee gets together on Tuesdays to discuss and make any changes needed and then the regional rankings are released on Wednesday. However, the last regional ranking we don't get to see is done for the selection and bracket process, so that is all done in a tighter range of just Sunday for all parties.

Timing this year:
First regional rankings - Wednesday, February 12 (followed by the 19 and the 26)
Final regional rankings (not public) - Sunday, March 2
Selection bracket announcement along with hosts for first and second rounds - Monday, March 3

Keep in mind the men's committee for years has not had a problem with releasing the final regional rankings... but the NCAA won't allow them to do so.
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[Greek Tragedy]

I have updated the "regional rankings" data on my site.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/2010-2011-d3-mens-regional-rankings.html

I think we're missing a few scores, but it should be fairly complete. We're one week away from the first set of rankings.

Thanks! +1

[Greek Tragedy]

Per the NCAA handbook for men:

Primary Selection Criteria
The primary criteria emphasize competition leading up to NCAA championships; all criteria listed will be evaluated (not listed in priority order).
●● Win-loss percentage against Division III opponents.
●● Division III strength of schedule.
-- Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OWP).
-- Opponents' Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OOWP).
●● Division III head-to-head competition.
●● Results versus common Division III opponents.
●● Results versus ranked Division III teams as established at the time of selection.
Note:
●● Conference postseason contests are included.
●● Contests versus provisional and reclassifying members in their third and fourth years shall count in the primary
criteria. Provisional and reclassifying members shall remain ineligible for rankings and selections

[dcahill44]

With Regional Rankings on its way this week heres how I think the East Regional Rankings will look like
1. Brockport
2. Plattsburgh
3. Geneseo
4. NYU
5. Hobart
6. Stevens
I think Nazareth is 7th and Vassar 8th. Main reason I think Stevens is ahead of Naz is because they beat them twice.

[KnightSlappy]

Here's the data I have through Sunday. Sort is by RPI.

RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   Pool   D3      RRO   CONFER   TEAM
NE   01   0.909   0.612   0.686   001   A      20-2    7-0   NESCAC   Amherst
NE   02   0.762   0.578   0.624   013   A      16-5    4-3   LEC      Eastern Connecticut
NE   03   0.857   0.543   0.621   014   C      18-3    3-2   NESCAC   Williams
NE   04   0.750   0.562   0.609   020   C      15-5    1-3   NEWMAC   Springfield
NE   05   0.762   0.552   0.604   023   C      16-5    2-4   NEWMAC   Babson
NE   06   0.857   0.507   0.595   030   A      18-3    3-1   NEWMAC   WPI
NE   07   0.857   0.507   0.594   031   C      18-3    1-3   NESCAC   Bowdoin
NE   08   0.950   0.474   0.593   034   A      19-1    1-0   GNAC     Albertus Magnus
NE   09   0.762   0.526   0.585   045   A      16-5    0-2   CCC      Nichols
NE   10   0.667   0.552   0.581   048   C      14-7    2-3   NESCAC   Middlebury
NE   11   0.667   0.549   0.578   049   C      14-7    0-3   LEC      Rhode Island College
ne   12   0.450   0.592   0.557   081   C      9-11    1-3   NESCAC   Bates
ne   13   0.737   0.490   0.551   094   C      14-5    1-1   GNAC     Johnson and Wales
ne   14   0.900   0.434   0.550   096   A      18-2    1-0   NAC      Husson
ne   15   0.700   0.499   0.549   101   C      14-6    2-2   CCC      Salve Regina
ne   16   0.650   0.515   0.549   102   A      13-7    1-3   MASCAC   Salem State
ne   17   0.600   0.526   0.545   109   C      12-8    1-3   GNAC     St. Josephs (Maine)
ne   18   0.500   0.558   0.544   112   C      9-9     1-4   NESCAC   Colby
ne   19   0.550   0.539   0.542   113   C      11-9    0-7   UAA      Brandeis
ne   20   0.714   0.474   0.534   126   C      15-6    2-3   NEWMAC   MIT
                              
RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   Pool   D3      RRO   CONFER   TEAM
EA   01   0.800   0.583   0.637   006   C      16-4    3-3   SUNYAC   Plattsburgh State
EA   02   0.889   0.549   0.634   007   A      16-2    2-2   SUNYAC   Brockport State
EA   03   0.833   0.557   0.626   011   C      15-3    2-2   SUNYAC   Geneseo State
EA   04   0.773   0.537   0.596   029   A      17-5    2-1   LL       Hobart
EA   05   0.750   0.506   0.567   066   C      15-5    0-2   LL       Vassar
EA   06   0.750   0.498   0.561   076   C      15-5    0-3   UAA      New York University
ea   07   0.421   0.600   0.555   085   C      8-11    3-6   UAA      Rochester
ea   08   0.650   0.515   0.549   103   C      13-7    2-5   LL       Skidmore
ea   09   0.667   0.507   0.547   105   A      14-7    1-2   E8       Stevens
ea   10   0.571   0.529   0.540   116   C      12-9    0-3   E8       Hartwick
ea   11   0.688   0.490   0.539   117   C      11-5    0-0   E8       Alfred
ea   12   0.524   0.544   0.539   119   C      11-10   1-4   SUNYAC   Buffalo State
ea   13   0.706   0.480   0.536   121   C      12-5    0-1   E8       Nazareth
ea   14   0.571   0.525   0.536   122   C      12-9    1-4   SUNYAC   Cortland State
ea   15   0.571   0.516   0.530   138   C      12-9    1-2   E8       St. John Fisher
ea   16   0.632   0.487   0.523   150   C      12-7    1-5   LL       Rochester Tech
ea   17   0.667   0.473   0.521   155   C      14-7    1-3   SUNYAC   Oswego State
ea   18   0.556   0.509   0.521   157   C      10-8    1-2   LL       Clarkson
ea   19   0.500   0.521   0.515   170   C      11-11   0-4   SUNYAC   Oneonta State
ea   20   0.667   0.452   0.506   195   C      12-6    0-2   NEAC     Morrisville State
                              
RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   Pool   D3      RRO   CONFER   TEAM
AT   01   0.950   0.507   0.618   018   A      19-1    4-1   SKY      SUNY-Purchase
AT   02   0.810   0.531   0.600   026   C      17-4    3-2   NJAC     Richard Stockton
AT   03   0.909   0.496   0.599   028   A      20-2    0-0   CUNYAC   Staten Island
AT   04   0.773   0.517   0.581   047   C      17-5    2-2   NJAC     William Paterson
AT   05   0.762   0.498   0.564   070   C      16-5    0-4   SKY      Mount St. Mary
AT   06   0.727   0.498   0.555   086   A      16-6    2-2   NJAC     Rutgers-Newark
at   07   0.667   0.517   0.554   088   C      14-7    0-4   CUNYAC   York (N.Y.)
at   08   0.579   0.516   0.532   131   C      11-8    0-4   NJAC     Kean
at   09   0.545   0.524   0.529   141   C      12-10   0-4   CUNYAC   Baruch
at   10   0.600   0.498   0.523   149   C      12-8    0-4   SKY      SUNY-Old Westbury
at   11   0.476   0.529   0.516   166   C      10-11   2-4   CUNYAC   Brooklyn
at   12   0.368   0.556   0.509   186   C      7-12    2-7   NJAC     Montclair State
at   13   0.476   0.516   0.506   191   C      10-11   1-6   NJAC     New Jersey City
at   14   0.700   0.431   0.498   212   C      14-6    0-4   SKY      Farmingdale State
at   15   0.450   0.502   0.489   226   C      9-11    2-3   LAND     Merchant Marine
at   16   0.409   0.514   0.488   231   C      9-13    1-4   NJAC     Ramapo
at   17   0.579   0.444   0.478   247   C      11-8    0-3   SKY      Sage
at   18   0.333   0.526   0.478   248   C      7-14    0-6   NJAC     TCNJ
at   19   0.421   0.492   0.474   253   C      8-11    0-5   CUNYAC   Lehman
at   20   0.389   0.496   0.469   266   C      7-11    0-4   NJAC     Rowan
                              
RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   Pool   D3      RRO   CONFER   TEAM
MA   01   1.000   0.506   0.630   009   A      18-0    3-0   CSAC     Cabrini
MA   02   0.889   0.530   0.620   016   C      16-2    3-0   CAC      Wesley
MA   03   0.850   0.522   0.604   024   A      17-3    2-0   MACC     Messiah
MA   04   0.857   0.506   0.594   032   A      18-3    3-1   LAND     Scranton
MA   05   0.850   0.504   0.591   037   A      17-3    3-1   CAC      Mary Washington
MA   06   0.714   0.550   0.591   038   C      15-6    0-3   MACC     Alvernia
MA   07   0.810   0.516   0.589   041   A      17-4    3-1   CC       Dickinson
MA   08   0.684   0.551   0.584   046   C      13-6    1-4   CAC      St. Marys (Md.)
MA   09   0.700   0.538   0.578   050   C      14-6    0-4   LAND     Catholic
ma   10   0.737   0.520   0.574   060   C      14-5    1-2   MACC     Hood
ma   11   0.632   0.551   0.571   061   C      12-7    2-5   CAC      Christopher Newport
ma   12   0.500   0.587   0.565   067   C      9-9     3-5   CAC      Salisbury
ma   13   0.737   0.505   0.563   072   C      14-5    1-2   CSAC     Neumann
ma   14   0.650   0.531   0.561   077   C      13-7    1-1   CC       Muhlenberg
ma   15   0.800   0.476   0.557   080   C      16-4    0-1   CC       McDaniel
ma   16   0.667   0.516   0.554   089   C      14-7    3-2   MACC     Stevenson
ma   17   0.600   0.538   0.553   090   C      12-8    1-3   CC       Johns Hopkins
ma   18   0.778   0.478   0.553   092   C      14-4    0-2   CSAC     Gwynedd-Mercy
ma   19   0.600   0.533   0.550   099   C      12-8    3-3   LAND     Juniata
ma   20   0.524   0.544   0.539   118   C      11-10   1-4   MACC     Albright
                              
RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   Pool   D3      RRO   CONFER   TEAM
SO   01   0.810   0.590   0.645   004   A      17-4    7-3   ODAC     Randolph-Macon
SO   02   0.650   0.612   0.621   015   C      13-7    3-5   UAA      Emory
SO   03   0.875   0.516   0.606   022   B      14-2    1-1   SAA      Centre
SO   04   0.905   0.488   0.592   036   A      19-2    0-0   ASC      Texas-Dallas
SO   05   0.600   0.587   0.590   040   C      12-8    2-3   SAA      Birmingham-Southern
SO   06   0.750   0.520   0.578   051   C      15-5    4-2   ODAC     Virginia Wesleyan
SO   07   0.684   0.538   0.575   057   C      13-6    0-4   ODAC     Lynchburg
SO   08   0.762   0.504   0.569   064   C      16-5    1-5   ODAC     Guilford
so   09   0.789   0.486   0.562   074   C      15-4    1-3   SAA      Oglethorpe
so   10   0.636   0.529   0.556   084   A      14-8    3-3   SCAC     Trinity (Texas)
so   11   0.524   0.563   0.553   091   C      11-10   2-0   SCAC     Schreiner
so   12   0.750   0.483   0.549   100   C      15-5    0-1   ASC      Concordia (Texas)
so   13   0.765   0.457   0.534   127   A      13-4    0-2   USAC     Maryville (Tenn.)
so   14   0.700   0.474   0.531   132   C      14-6    1-1   ASC      Hardin-Simmons
so   15   0.550   0.524   0.530   134   C      11-9    0-7   ODAC     Randolph
so   16   0.474   0.549   0.530   136   C      9-10    2-3   ODAC     Eastern Mennonite
so   17   0.619   0.488   0.520   159   C      13-8    0-1   ASC      Mary Hardin-Baylor
so   18   0.500   0.521   0.516   167   C      9-9     0-2   ASC      Louisiana College
so   19   0.471   0.529   0.514   174   C      8-9     1-4   ODAC     Bridgewater (Va.)
so   20   0.667   0.464   0.514   175   A      12-6    0-3   SLIAC    Spalding
                              
RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   Pool   D3      RRO   CONFER   TEAM
GL   01   0.895   0.545   0.633   008   A      17-2    3-1   NCAC     Wooster
GL   02   0.810   0.550   0.615   019   C      17-4    2-1   NCAC     Ohio Wesleyan
GL   03   0.737   0.564   0.607   021   A      14-5    2-4   MIAA     Hope
GL   04   0.800   0.525   0.594   033   C      16-4    0-3   OAC      Marietta
GL   05   0.850   0.504   0.591   039   A      17-3    1-1   OAC      Mount Union
GL   06   0.810   0.499   0.577   054   C      17-4    1-1   PrAC     Bethany
GL   07   0.882   0.473   0.575   056   A      15-2    1-0   PrAC     St. Vincent
gl   08   0.810   0.496   0.575   058   C      17-4    2-2   NCAC     Wittenberg
gl   09   0.700   0.523   0.568   065   C      14-6    1-4   NCAC     DePauw
gl   10   0.632   0.531   0.556   083   C      12-7    0-4   OAC      Wilmington
gl   11   0.524   0.562   0.553   093   C      11-10   0-5   OAC      Baldwin Wallace
gl   12   0.810   0.464   0.550   095   C      17-4    1-0   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
gl   13   0.571   0.542   0.550   098   C      12-9    1-3   OAC      Ohio Northern
gl   14   0.667   0.503   0.544   111   C      14-7    0-4   OAC      John Carroll
gl   15   0.765   0.463   0.538   120   C      13-4    1-4   MIAA     Calvin
gl   16   0.476   0.555   0.535   123   C      10-11   0-5   NCAC     Denison
gl   17   0.600   0.513   0.535   124   C      12-8    3-3   UAA      Case Western Reserve
gl   18   0.429   0.568   0.533   128   C      9-12    1-3   OAC      Capital
gl   19   0.474   0.540   0.523   147   C      9-10    1-4   UAA      Carnegie Mellon
gl   20   0.438   0.541   0.515   172   C      7-9     0-4   PrAC     Grove City
                              
RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   Pool   D3      RRO   CONFER   TEAM
MW   01   0.900   0.558   0.644   005   A      18-2    6-2   UAA      Washington U.
MW   02   0.727   0.591   0.625   012   A      16-6    5-4   CCIW     Wheaton (Ill.)
MW   03   0.857   0.538   0.618   017   C      18-3    5-2   CCIW     Illinois Wesleyan
MW   04   0.727   0.557   0.600   027   C      16-6    5-3   CCIW     Augustana
MW   05   0.944   0.468   0.587   042   A      17-1    0-1   MWC      St. Norbert
MW   06   0.650   0.564   0.585   044   C      13-7    4-5   CCIW     Carthage
MW   07   0.579   0.576   0.577   053   C      11-8    2-6   UAA      Chicago
MW   08   0.810   0.496   0.574   059   A      17-4    1-1   HCAC     Rose-Hulman
mw   09   0.818   0.486   0.569   063   C      18-4    0-0   NATHC    Milwaukee Engineering
mw   10   0.789   0.489   0.564   069   C      15-4    0-3   HCAC     Defiance
mw   11   0.650   0.533   0.562   073   C      13-7    2-4   CCIW     Elmhurst
mw   12   0.636   0.531   0.557   079   C      14-8    0-1   NATHC    Aurora
mw   13   0.714   0.504   0.556   082   A      15-6    0-0   NATHC    Marian
mw   14   0.600   0.540   0.555   087   C      12-8    0-2   HCAC     Mount St. Joseph
mw   15   0.667   0.511   0.550   097   C      14-7    1-2   HCAC     Hanover
mw   16   0.474   0.570   0.546   107   C      9-10    2-6   CCIW     North Central (Ill.)
mw   17   0.632   0.517   0.546   108   C      12-7    0-1   MWC      Ripon
mw   18   0.750   0.471   0.541   115   C      15-5    0-0   NATHC    Lakeland
mw   19   0.650   0.494   0.533   129   C      13-7    1-2   MWC      Carroll
mw   20   0.778   0.447   0.530   139   C      14-4    0-1   MWC      Grinnell
                              
RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   Pool   D3      RRO   CONFER   TEAM
WE   01   0.952   0.588   0.679   002   A      20-1    5-1   WIAC     UW-Stevens Point
WE   02   0.864   0.573   0.646   003   C      19-3    3-1   WIAC     UW-Whitewater
WE   03   0.810   0.568   0.629   010   C      17-4    0-3   MIAC     St. Olaf
WE   04   0.857   0.518   0.602   025   A      18-3    1-1   MIAC     St. Thomas
WE   05   0.944   0.476   0.593   035   A      17-1    1-0   IIAC     Dubuque
WE   06   0.810   0.512   0.586   043   A      17-4    0-3   NWC      Whitworth
WE   07   0.813   0.499   0.577   052   A      13-3    0-0   SCIAC    Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
WE   08   0.632   0.557   0.576   055   C      12-7    1-3   WIAC     UW-La Crosse
we   09   0.706   0.525   0.570   062   C      12-5    2-1   SCAC     Colorado College
we   10   0.647   0.537   0.565   068   C      11-6    0-1   IIAC     Luther
we   11   0.667   0.529   0.564   071   C      14-7    1-4   MIAC     Augsburg
we   12   0.550   0.565   0.562   075   C      11-9    1-6   WIAC     UW-Platteville
we   13   0.800   0.480   0.560   078   C      16-4    2-1   SCIAC    Pomona-Pitzer
we   14   0.765   0.475   0.548   104   C      13-4    0-2   IIAC     Central
we   15   0.611   0.525   0.547   106   C      11-7    1-3   WIAC     UW-Stout
we   16   0.714   0.488   0.545   110   C      15-6    0-4   NWC      Whitman
we   17   0.636   0.510   0.542   114   C      14-8    0-3   MIAC     Gustavus Adolphus
we   18   0.526   0.538   0.535   125   C      10-9    0-2   IIAC     Wartburg
we   19   0.588   0.514   0.532   130   C      10-7    1-2   NWC      Pacific
we   20   0.611   0.497   0.525   143   C      11-7    0-1   IIAC     Buena Vista
                              
RG   ##   WP      wSOS    wRPI    NAT   Pool   D3      RRO   CONFER   TEAM
B    01   0.875   0.516   0.606   022   B      14-2    1-1   SAA      Centre
b    02   0.600   0.587   0.590   040   C      12-8    2-3   SAA      Birmingham-Southern
b    03   0.789   0.486   0.562   074   C      15-4    1-3   SAA      Oglethorpe
b    04   0.333   0.554   0.499   211   C      2-4     0-1   IND      Maine-Presque Isle
b    05   0.619   0.453   0.494   216   C      13-8    1-3   SAA      Rhodes
                              
Regions are sorted by RPI                              
RPI isn't an actual selection criterion                              
Pool A designates AQ conference leader (using RPI as tiebreaker)                              
Results vs. regionally ranked opponents   are estimates based on RPI position

[Greek Tragedy]

Took a quick look at the results and here is my unprofessional opinion for Wednesday's rankings

Regional records posted (not guaranteed accurate!)

1. Stevens Point - 20-1
2. Whitewater - 19-3
3. St. Thomas - 18-3 -beat St. Olaf
4. St. Olaf - 17-4
5. Dubuque - 17-1
6. Colorado College 12-5 - beat Whitworth twice
7. Whitworth - 17-4
8. CMS - 13-3
9. La Crosse 12-7

[nescac1]

Thanks KnightSlappy.  I think that Eastern Conn will end up down a few notches from what you have them, and Bowdoin and Albertus Magnus up a notch or two, but we will see.  Williams is 19-3 vs. D3, not 18-3 (Ephs have only played D3 opponents this year).  My best guess for New England rankings is Amherst, Williams, WPI, Albertus Magnus, Bowdoin, Eastern Conn, Babson, Springfield. 

[madzillagd]

I'm guessing St. Josephs (VT) does not count because they played Midd and Midd is down one win as well.

[sac]

I'm guessing St. Josephs (VT) does not count because they played Midd and Midd is down one win as well.

St. Joseph's Vermont is USCAA.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Yeah... that St. Joe's game for Williams is a non-D3 game... if they had played the Maine St. Joe's team, that would be a different conversation .

[nescac1]

Ahhh, I see, second time today madzillagd has corrected me, nothing can slip by him !