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sac

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 19, 2014, 04:12:14 PM
Rankings I don't quite understand:

Pomona-Pitzer in over Claremont-Mudd-Scripps in the West.

That's a weird one.  PP beat CMS 11 days ago, but that should have been taken into account in last weeks rankings.  They've split the season series. 

Pomona-Pitzer   .762/.509/2-1
Claremont-MS    .833/.487/1-1

Is +.021 SOS and 1 more in-region game enough to make-up an .071 difference in WP.

Pomona beat St. Thomas in the very first game of the season.  Pomona beat Johns Hopkins by 1 while CMS lost to them by 2.   I guess this might be why.


On top of that, Pomona just lost a game a Saturday to Chapman that should have been taken into account for this weeks rankings.  Very puzzling.

David Collinge

Quote from: Titan Q on February 19, 2014, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 19, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
vRRO

We probably need a new abbreviation, since it's now "Results vs All Division Ranked Opponents."

How about
Total Games, Heedless of Interregionality, Juxtaposed 'Gainst Specially Talented Opposition
or, that is,
TGHIJGSTO.

Titan Q

Quote from: David Collinge on February 19, 2014, 06:55:44 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 19, 2014, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 19, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
vRRO

We probably need a new abbreviation, since it's now "Results vs All Division Ranked Opponents."

How about
Total Games, Heedless of Interregionality, Juxtaposed 'Gainst Specially Talented Opposition
or, that is,
TGHIJGSTO.

2014 is young, but this will fair well in "post of the year" consideration all the way through 12/31.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: David Collinge on February 19, 2014, 06:55:44 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 19, 2014, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 19, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
vRRO

We probably need a new abbreviation, since it's now "Results vs All Division Ranked Opponents."

How about
Total Games, Heedless of Interregionality, Juxtaposed 'Gainst Specially Talented Opposition
or, that is,
TGHIJGSTO.

That is a seriopusly witty suggestion, DC.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

wooscotsfan

Quote from: David Collinge on February 19, 2014, 06:55:44 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 19, 2014, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 19, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
vRRO

We probably need a new abbreviation, since it's now "Results vs All Division Ranked Opponents."

How about
Total Games, Heedless of Interregionality, Juxtaposed 'Gainst Specially Talented Opposition
or, that is,
TGHIJGSTO.

David -- Hilarious and Outstanding! ;D   It is the Post of the Year IMO. k+

Greek Tragedy

#4880
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 20, 2014, 02:36:43 AM
GREEN is conference leader/winner/#1 seed




   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON       SCHEDULE   
   ATL      1      1      SUNY-Purchase       21-1, 21-1      SKY      WON at NYU-Poly 78-55, WON vs Sage 84-65, at St. Joseph's (L.I.) 2/22   
   ATL      2      2      Richard Stockton       20-4, 20-4      NJAC      WON at Rowan 75-72    
   ATL      3      3      Rutgers-Newark       18-6, 18-6      NJAC      LOST at Kean 77-73, vs Montclaire State in NJAC quarterfinals 2/22   
   ATL      4      4      William Paterson       19-5, 19-5      NJAC      WON vs Ramapo 81-61   
   ATL      5      5      Staten Island       22-2, 22-2      CUNYAC      WON vs Medgar Evers 111-65, vs CCNY in CUNYAC quarterfinals 2/22   
   ATL      6      6      Mt. St. Mary (N.Y.)       17-5, 17-5      SKY      WON vs SUNY-Old Westbury 75-45, WON at Yeshiva 63-37, vs Farmingdale State 2/22   
                                          
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON       SCHEDULE   
   EAST      1      1      Brockport State       19-2, 20-2      SUNYAC      LOST at Oswego State 95-83, vs New Paltz State 2/21, vs Oneonta State 2/22   
   EAST      3      2      Plattsburgh State        18-4, 18-4      SUNYAC      WON at Potsdam State 76-61, vs Fredonia State 2/21, vs Buffalo State 2/22   
   EAST      2      3      Geneseo State       17-4, 18-4      SUNYAC      LOST at Cortland State 65-53, vs Oneonta State 2/21, vs New Paltz State 2/22   
   EAST      5      4      Hobart       18-6, 18-6      LL      WON vs Union 72-61   
   EAST      6      5      Stevens        14-7, 16-7      E8      LOST at Hartwick 78-72, vs Elmira 2/21   
   EAST      4      6      NYU        15-7, 15-7      UAA      at Emory 2-21, at Rochester 2-23   
                                          
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON       SCHEDULE   
   GL      1      1      Wooster        19-2, 20-3      NCAC      WON at Allegheny 89-57, vs Oberlin 2/22   
   GL      6      2      Hope       16-5, 17-6      MIAA      WON at Kalamazoo 110-78, at Adrian 2/22   
   GL      2      3      Ohio Wesleyan        18-5, 18-5      NCAC      WON at Oberlin 93-60, vs DePauw 2/22   
   GL      7      4      Bethany        18-4, 19-4      PAC      WON vs Thomas More 80-77, vs Washington and Jefferson 2/22   
   GL      3      5      Mount Union        19-4, 19-4      OAC      WON at Marietta 81-77, at Wilmington 2/22   
   GL      4      6      Marietta        17-5, 18-5      OAC      LOST vs Mount Union 81-77, vs John Carroll 2/22   
   GL      5      7      Wittenberg        17-6, 17-6      NCAC      WON vs Kenyon 80-71, at Hiram 2/22   
                                          
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON       SCHEDULE   
   MATL      2      1      Scranton       20-3, 20-3      LAND      WON vs Moravian 67-61, vs Goucher 2/22   
   MATL      1      2      Cabrini       20-1, 20-1      CSAC      WON at Neumann 84-72, WON vs Keystone 86-73, vs Immaculata 2/20   
   MATL      3      3      Wesley       18-2, 20-2      CAC      WON vs Penn State-Harrisburg 70-40, vs St. Mary's (Md.) 2/22   
   MATL      6      4      Dickinson       19-4, 19-4      CC      WON at Muhlenberg 92-86, vs Franklin and Marshall 2/22   
   MATL      4      5      Messiah       18-4, 18-4      MACC      WON vs Widener 80-69, at Alvernia 2/22   
         n/a      6      Stevenson      16-7, 16-7      MACC      WON vs Elizabethtown 65-51, at Lebanon Valley 2/22   
   MATL      5      7      Mary Washington       17-5, 18-5      CAC      WON at Southern Virginia 103-97, at Penn State-Harrisburgh 2/22   
   MATL      7      8      Alvernia       16-7, 16-7      MACC      WON at Hood 76-72, vs Messiah 2/22   
   MATL      8      9      Hood       16-7, 16-7      MACC      LOST vs Alvernia 76-72, at Lycoming 2/22   
                                          
   DROP                                       
   MATL      9            McDaniel             CC         
                                          
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON       SCHEDULE   
   MW      1      1      Washington U.       20-2, 20-2      UAA      vs Case Western Reserve 2/21, vs Carnegie Mellon 2/23   
   MW      2      2      Illinois Wesleyan       20-3, 20-3      CCIW      WON vs North Park 107-61, at Wheaton (IL) 2/22   
   MW      3      3      Wheaton (Ill.)       17-7, 17-7      CCIW      vs Illinois Wesleyan 2/22   
   MW      4      4      Augustana       18-6, 18-6      CCIW      at North Park 2/22   
   MW      5      5      St. Norbert       19-1, 20-1      MWC      WON at Ripon 78-62, vs Illinois College 2/22   
   MW      6      6      Carthage       14-8, 15-9      CCIW      vs Millikin 2/22   
   MW      7      7      Rose-Hulman       19-4, 19-4      HCAC      WON at Franklin 71-69, at Mount St. Joseph 2/22   
   MW      8      8      MSOE       20-4, 20-4      NACC      WON vs Wisconsin Lutheran 84-70, vs Edgewood 2/22   
                                          
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON       SCHEDULE   
   NE      1      1      Amherst       21-2, 21-3      NESCAC      vs Colby in NESCAC quarterfinals 2/22   
   NE      2      2      Williams       20-3, 21-3      NESCAC      vs Tufts in NESCAC quarterfinals 2/22   
   NE      4      3      Babson       18-5, 18-5      NEWMAC      WON at Coast Guard 72-63, at MIT 2/22   
   NE      5      4      Eastern Connecticut       18-5, 18-5      LEC      WON vs Western Connecticut 74-59, at Southern Maine 2/22   
   NE      6      5      WPI       20-3, 20-3      NEWMAC      WON vs Wheaton (Mass.) 58-46, at Clark 2/22   
   NE      3      6      Bowdoin       19-4, 19-4      NESCAC      vs Trinity (Conn.) in NESCAC quarterfinals 2/22   
   NE      7      7      Springfield       15-6, 16-6      NEWMAC      WON vs Emerson 76-66, WON at Clark 76-64, vs Coast Guard 2/22   
   NE      8      8      Albertus Magnus       21-1, 21-2      GNAC      WON at Johnson and Wales 96-81, vs Emmanuel 2/22   
   NE      9      9      Rhode Island      16-7, 16-7      LEC      LOST at Mass-Dartmouth 85-73, vs Plymouth State 2/22   
   NE      10      10      Nichols       18-5, 18-5      CCC      WON at Eastern Nazarene 88-84, at Wentworth 2/22   
   NE      11      11      Middlebury       15-8, 16-8      NESCAC      vs Hamilton in NESCAC quarterfinals 2/22   
                                          
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON       SCHEDULE   
   SOUTH      1      1      Randolph-Macon      18-5, 18-5      ODAC      WON vs Hampden-Sydney 90-67, at Washington and Lee 2/22   
   SOUTH      3      2      Virgina Wesleyan       16-6, 17-6      ODAC      WON vs Shenandoah 93-74, at Guilford 2/22   
   SOUTH      6      3      Emory       15-7, 15-7      UAA      vs NYU 2/21, vs Brandeis 2/23   
   SOUTH      2      4      Texas-Dallas       21-2, 21-2      ASC      at Concordia (TX) 2/20, at Mary Hardin-Baylor 2/22   
   SOUTH      4      5      Centre       15-3, 18-4      SAA      vs Hendrix 2/21, vs Rhodes 2/23   
   SOUTH      5      6      Guilford       16-6, 16-6      ODAC      LOST at Emory and Henry 78-74, WON at Lynchburg 68-66, vs Virginia Wesleyan 2/22   
   SOUTH      7      7      Oglethorpe       17-4, 19-4      SAA      at Birmingham-Southern 2/21, at Millsaps 2/23   
   SOUTH      n/a      8      Hardin-Simmons      16-6, 16-7      ASC      at Mary Hardin-Baylor 2/20, at Concordia (TX) 2/22   
                                          
   DROP                                       
   SOUTH      8      n/a      Concordia (Texas)             ASC         
                                          
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON       SCHEDULE   
   WEST      1      1      UW-Stevens Point       22-1, 22-1      WIAC      WON at Oshkosh 70-51, vs Stout 2/22   
   WEST      2      2      UW-Whitewater       21-3, 21-3      WIAC      at Eau Claire 2/22   
   WEST      3      3      St. Thomas       20-3, 20-3      MIAC      WON at Gustavus Adolphus 73-68, vs St. John's 2/22   
   WEST      5      4      St. Olaf       18-5, 18-5      MIAC      WON vs Macalester 78-54, at Bethel 2/22   
   WEST      4      5      Dubuque       17-3, 20-3      IIAC      LOST at Buena Vista 77-75   
   WEST      6      6      Whitworth       19-4, 19-4      NWC      WON vs Whitman 79-76, at Lewis and Clark 2/21   
   WEST      7      7      Pomona-Pitzer       16-5, 16-7      SCIAC      WON at La Verne 65-59, vs Occidental 2/22   
   WEST      8      8      Colorado College       14-5, 16-6      SCAC      vs University of Dallas 2/22   
   WEST      n/a      9      Augsburg      16-7, 16-7      MIAC      WON vs Carleton 75-67, at St. Mary's (MN) 2/22   
                                          
   DROP                                       
   WEST      9      n/a      C-M-S             SCIAC         
                                          
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7express

Albertus & Nichols are both 1 seeds for their conference tournaments as well Greek

Greek Tragedy

#4882
HERE ARE JUST THE POOL C CANDIDATES WITH THE CONFERENCE LEADERS/WINNERS/#1 SEEDS REMOVED



   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON    
   ATL      3      3      Rutgers-Newark       18-6, 18-6      NJAC   
   ATL      4      4      William Paterson       19-5, 19-5      NJAC   
   ATL      6      6      Mt. St. Mary (N.Y.)       17-5, 17-5      SKY   
                                    
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON    
   EAST      3      2      Plattsburgh State        18-4, 18-4      SUNYAC   
   EAST      2      3      Geneseo State       17-4, 18-4      SUNYAC   
   EAST      4      6      NYU        15-7, 15-7      UAA   
                                    
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON    
   GL      2      3      Ohio Wesleyan        18-5, 18-5      NCAC   
   GL      4      6      Marietta        17-5, 18-5      OAC   
   GL      5      7      Wittenberg        17-6, 17-6      NCAC   
                                    
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON    
         n/a      6      Stevenson      16-7, 16-7      MACC   
   MATL      5      7      Mary Washington       17-5, 18-5      CAC   
   MATL      7      8      Alvernia       16-7, 16-7      MACC   
   MATL      8      9      Hood       16-7, 16-7      MACC   
                                    
   DROP                                 
   MATL      9            McDaniel             CC   
                                    
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON    
   MW      3      3      Wheaton (Ill.)       17-7, 17-7      CCIW   
   MW      4      4      Augustana       18-6, 18-6      CCIW   
   MW      6      6      Carthage       14-8, 15-9      CCIW   
                                    
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON    
   NE      2      2      Williams       20-3, 21-3      NESCAC   
   NE      4      3      Babson       18-5, 18-5      NEWMAC   
   NE      3      6      Bowdoin       19-4, 19-4      NESCAC   
   NE      7      7      Springfield       15-6, 16-6      NEWMAC   
   NE      9      9      Rhode Island      16-7, 16-7      LEC   
   NE      11      11      Middlebury       15-8, 16-8      NESCAC   
                                    
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON    
   SOUTH      3      2      Virgina Wesleyan       16-6, 17-6      ODAC   
   SOUTH      6      3      Emory       15-7, 15-7      UAA   
   SOUTH      5      6      Guilford       16-6, 16-6      ODAC   
   SOUTH      7      7      Oglethorpe       17-4, 19-4      SAA   
   SOUTH      n/a      8      Hardin-Simmons      16-6, 16-7      ASC   
                                    
   DROP                                 
   SOUTH      8      n/a      Concordia (Texas)             ASC   
                                    
   REG      #1      #2      TEAM-RECORD      REC      CON    
   WEST      2      2      UW-Whitewater       21-3, 21-3      WIAC   
   WEST      5      4      St. Olaf       18-5, 18-5      MIAC   
   WEST      4      5      Dubuque       17-3, 20-3      IIAC   
   WEST      7      7      Pomona-Pitzer       16-5, 16-7      SCIAC   
   WEST      8      8      Colorado College       14-5, 16-6      SCAC   
   WEST      n/a      9      Augsburg      16-7, 16-7      MIAC   
                                    
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KnightSlappy

Hope has wrapped up the #1 seed in the MIAA.

Greek Tragedy

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 20, 2014, 09:34:11 AM
Hope has wrapped up the #1 seed in the MIAA.

Thanks, had it green in the other table, just missed it when I was deleting.
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KnightSlappy

Five ranked teams benefiting the most from the NCAA's SOS calculation method (NCAA/'Correct'):
1.   NYU – (.551/.498) +.051
2.   Guilford – (.541/.499) +.041
3.   Scranton – (.549/.512) +.037
4.   Dubuque – (.509/.481) +.027
5.   Whitworth – (.521/.494) + .027

Greek Tragedy

https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

This is the mileage calculation that Just Bill (I think) posted two years ago. Not sure if they still use it. Thought it was relavant.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

That is what is used... that is the official mileage calculator for the NCAA. VERY important when talking about hosting and bracket design.
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Just Bill

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 20, 2014, 11:33:33 AM
https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

This is the mileage calculation that Just Bill (I think) posted two years ago. Not sure if they still use it. Thought it was relavant.

Yep. That's still the official tool.
"That seems silly and pointless..." - Hoops Fan

The first and still most accurate description of the D3 Championship BeltTM thread.

sac

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 20, 2014, 11:19:35 AM
Five ranked teams benefiting the most from the NCAA's SOS calculation method (NCAA/'Correct'):
1.   NYU – (.551/.498) +.051
2.   Guilford – (.541/.499) +.041
3.   Scranton – (.549/.512) +.037
4.   Dubuque – (.509/.481) +.027
5.   Whitworth – (.521/.494) + .027

Those are a little alarming.  I need a refresher on what's incorrect about it.