Pool C

[Ralph Turner]

I have "blued out" the Tourney AQ's in the Regional Rankings from Greek's list. (Corrections are appreciated.)

Updated through Sunday's games

Pool A (Automatic qualifiers) will be BLUE once their conference tournaments are complete. Teams losing will be RED and will be considered Pool C.

ATL
WK3	Team	Schedule
#1	New Jersey City (NJAC)	LOST to TCNJ 92-82 in semis
#2	Stockton (NJAC)	WON vs Rutgers-Newark 95-75 in semis; WON vs TCNJ 60-53 in Final
#3	DeSales (MACF)	LOST to Wilkes 72-62 in semis
#4	Brooklyn (CUNYAC)	WON vs Staten Island 78-69 in semis; WON vs Baruch 76-67 in Final
#5	Lehman (CUNYAC)	LOST to Baruch 80-64 in semis
#6	Staten Island (CUNYAC)	LOST to Brooklyn 78-69 in semis
#7	Rutgers-Newark (NJAC)	WON vs William Paterson 78-52 in QFs; LOST at Stockton 95-75 in semis
	DROPPING OUT
	Delaware Valley (MACF)
	UNRANKED
	Gwynedd Mercy (CSAC)
	Old Westbury (Skyline)
CENT
WK3	Team	Schedule
#1	Benedictine (NACC)	WON vs Marian 91-82; WON vs MSOE 83-57 in Final
#2	Augustana (CCIW)	WON vs Illinois Wesleyan 83-74; WON vs Elmhurst 69-53 in Final
#3	St.Norbert (MWC)	WON vs Lake Forest 63-48; WON vs Carroll 71-69 in Final
POOL C	NCC (CCIW)	LOST to Elmhurst 60-58 in semis
POOL C	Elmhurst	LOST to Augustana 69-53 in Final
#6	Chicago (UAA)	LOST to Washington U. 67-54
#7	Aurora (NACC)	LOST to MSOE in semis 100-96
#8	Carroll (MWC)	LOST to St. Norbert 71-69 in Final
	UNRANKED
	Westminster (SLIAC)
	UW-Oshkosh (WIAC)
EAST
WK3	Team	Schedule
POOL C	Platts. St. (SUNYAC)	LOST to Oswego St 81-74 in semis
#2	Rochester (UAA)	LOST to Emory 84-75
POOL C	NYU (UAA)	WON at Brandeis 71-50
#4	St. John Fisher (E8)	WON vs Stevens 85-62; LOST to Hartwick 93-91 in Final
POOL C	Oswego St. (SUNYAC)	WON vs SUNY Geneseo 75-59; WON at Platts. St. 81-74;LOST  at Cortland 77-74 in Final
#6	SUNY Geneseo (SUNYAC)	LOST to Oswego St. 75-59 in QFs
	DROPPING OUT
	SUNY Oneonta (SUNYAC)
	Brockport (SUNYAC)
	UNRANKED
	Lancaster Bible (NEAC)
	Skidmore (LL)
GL
WK3	Team	Schedule
POOL C	Marietta (OAC)	WON vs Wilmington 93-78; Won vs Baldwin Wallace 91-66; LOST vs John Carroll 97-95 in Final
POOL C	Ohio Wesleyan (NCAC)	WON vs Wabash 100-80; LOST to Denison 95-85 in semis
#3	John Carroll (OAC)	WON vs Capital 83-70; WON vs Mount Union 93-74; WON at Marietta 87-85 in Final
POOL C	Hope (MIAA)	LOST to Trine 82-77 in semis
#5	Alma (MIAA)	WON vs Albion 77-64; WON vs Trine 62-54 in Final
POOL C	Wooster (NCAC)	WON vs Oberlin 78-63; WON vs Hiram 92-79; LOST to Denison 92-81 in Final
#7	Mount Union (OAC)	WON vs Heidelberg 102-96; LOST at John Carroll 93-74 in semis
#8	Hiram (NCAC)	WON vs Kenyon 95-87; LOST at Wooster 92-79 in semis
#9	St. Vincent (PAC)	WON vs Chatham 80-65; WON vs Westminster 70-65; WON vs Thomas More 65-62 in Final
	DROPPING OUT
	Trine (MIAA)
	UNRANKED
	Mount St Joseph (HCAC)
	Pitt-Greensburg (AMCC)
MA
WK3	Team	Schedule
#1	Christopher Newport(CAC)	WON vs St. Mary's 57-56; WON vs Salisbury in 68-67 OT in Final
POOL C	Susquehanna (LAND)	WON vs Scranton 77-72 in semis; LOST to Catholic 83-81 in Final
POOL C	Salisbury (CAC)	WON vs Mary Washington 83-78; LOST at Christopher Newport 68-68 OT in Final
#4	Catholic (LAND)	WON vs Juniata 79-66; WON vs Susquehanna 83-81 in Final
POOL C	Scranton (LAND)	LOST to Susquehanna 77-72 in semis
#6	Franklin and Marshall (CC)	WON vs Gettysburg 74-63; WON vs Swarthmore 75-64 in Final
	UNRANKED
	Lycoming (MACC)
NE
WK3	Team	Schedule
POOL C	Amherst (NECAC)	WON vs Tufts 86-83 in semis; LOST to Middlebury 81-79 in Final
POOL C	Trinity (Conn.) (NESCAC)	LOST to Middlebury 70-58 in semis
POOL C	Tufts (NESCAC)	LOST at Amherst 86-83 in semis
#4	Babson (NEWMAC)	WON vs Emerson 74-69; WON vs MIT 81-69 in Final
POOL C	WPI (NEWMAC)   [color]	LOST to MIT 96-80 in semis
#6	Johnson & Wales (GNAC)	WON vs St. Joseph's 73-36; WON vs Emmanuel 97-79; WON vs Albertus Magnus 86-74 in Final
#7	Eastern Connecticut (LEC)	WON vs Mass-Boston 93-65; LOST to Mass-Dartmouth 60-55 in semis
#8	MIT (NEWMAC)	WON at WPI 96-80; LOST at Babson 81-69 in Final
#9	Middlebury (NESCAC)	WON at Trinity 70-58; WON at Amherst 81-79 in Final
#10	Southern Vermont(NECC)	WON vs Regis 73-68; WON vs Becker 74-72 in Final
#11	Nichols (CCC)	WON vs W. New England 10768; LOST to Endicott 82-80 in semis
	DROPPING OUT
	Wesleyan (NESCAC)
	UNRANKED
	Fitchburg St (MASCAC)
	Husson (NAC)
	Johnson & Wales (GNAC)
	Keene State (LEC)
SOUTH
WK3	Team	Schedule
#1	Texas Lutheran (SCAC)	WON vs Centenary 80-70; WON vs Colorado College 80-77 in Final
#2	Lynchburg (ODAC)	WON vs Hampden-Sydney 90-67; WON vs Emory and Henry 94-64; WON vs Randolph 62-60 in Final today
#3	Emory (UAA)	WON at Rochester 84-74
#4	Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC)	WON vs Randolph-Macon 78-52; LOST to Randolph 69-61 in semis
#5	N.C. Wesleyan (USAC)	WON vs Averett 81-66; LOST to LaGrange 99-87 in semis
POOL C	LaGrange (USAC)	WON vs Ferrum 77-73; WON at N.C. Wesleyan 99-87; LOST at Covenant 101-92 OT in Final
#7	ETBU (ASC)	WON vs Mary Harin-Baylor 70-64; LOST to Louisiana College 56-44 in semis
#8	Roanoke (ODAC)	LOST to Randolph 74-62 in QFs
	UNRANKED
	Birmingham-Southern (SAA)
	Hardin-Simmons (ASC)
WEST
WK3	Team	Schedule
POOL C	St. Thomas (MIAC)	WON vs Bethel 63-46; LOST to St. Olaf 72-66 in Final on Sunday
#2	Whitworth (NWC)	WON vs Puget Sound 75-58; WON vs Pacific Lutheran 75-62 in Final
POOL C	Whitman (NWC)	LOST to Pacific Lutheran 82-68 in semis
#4	St. John's (MIAC)	WON vs Augsburg 99-86; LOST at St. Olaf 91-80 in semis
#5	St.Olaf (MIAC)	WON vs St. John's 91-80; WON at St. Thomas 72-66 in Final
#6	Concordia-Moorhead (MIAC)	LOST to Bethel 67-62 in QFs
#7	Bethel (MIAC)	WON at Concordia-Moorhead 67-62; lost at St. Thomas 63-46 in semis
	DROPPING OUT
	Dubuque (IIAC)
	Augsburg (MIAC)
	UNRANKED
	Central (IIAC)
	Northwestern (UMAC)

[Titan Q]

Final projection...

Pool C Projection
1. St. Thomas (MIAC) .889/.564 (not updated)/11-1, W#1
2. Marietta (OAC) 0.893/0.556/5-3, GL#1
3. Susquehanna (LAND) 0.840/0.554/4-3, MA#2
4. Amherst (NESCAC) .815/.564/5-2, NE#1
5. Plattsburgh State (SUNYAC) 0.808/0.552/4-3, EA#1
6. Salisbury (CAC) 0.778/0.562/4-3, MA#3
7. Ohio Wesleyan (NCAC) 0.852/0.525/3-2, GL#2
8. North Central (CCIW) 0.720/0.600/3-7, CE#4
9. Tufts (NESCAC) 0.769/0.561/3-5, NE#3
10. Elmhurst (CCIW) 0.778/0.543/3-5, CE#5
11. Wooster (NCAC) 0.741/0.563/3-4, GL#6
12. Oswego State (SUNYAC) 0.714/0.552/6-2, EA#5
13. Trinity (NESCAC) 0.720/0.563/2-5, NE#2
14. Scranton (LAND) 0.720/0.556/2-4, MA#5
15. Rochester (UAA) 0.708/0.561/3-4, EA#2
16. WPI (NEWMAC) 0.769/0.521/5-3, NE#5
17. Hope (MIAA) 0.913/0.504/1-1, GL#4   
18. New York University (UAA) 0.800/0.509/3-3, EA#3
19. LaGrange (USAC) 0.708/0.551/3-2, SO#6

Left at Table
*Atlantic - New Jersey City (NJAC) 0.692/0.525/4-2, AT#1   
*Central - Carroll (MWC) 0.800/0.530/0-3, CE#8
*East - St. John Fisher (E8) .778/.519/1-0, E#4 
*Great Lakes - Mount Union (OAC)  .654/.546/2-5, GL #7
*Mid-Atlantic - Swarthmore (CC)  .741/.498/0-3, not ranked
*Northeast - Eastern Connecticut (LEC) .667/.550/1-4, NE#7
*South - n/a
*West - Whitman (NWC) 0.840/0.509/1-2, W#3  Pool C #20

18 again.  One of these years...

[fantastic50]

18 here, too. (Rochester/NYU)

[Titan Q]

18 here, too. (Rochester/NYU)

Nicely done!!

[WUPHF]

Thanks everyone for the bracketology...

[dcahill44]

I got 18/19 as well put New Jersey City in over LaGrange and by the sounds of things it was between those two teams for final spot

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

So, Q - we were both sort of right on hosting.  They split the middle.  The East, Atlantic and South lost their second host.  South is the one that tends towards your idea that they just picked the most worthy teams overall.  It appears maybe they gave the #1 in each region a host and then split it up after that.

We'll definitely take that into account for next year.  When we were bracketing last night, we started with two in each region, but even we had to add one in the GL just to make the geography work (especially for Hope).  A very strange year with lots of options.

[Ralph Turner]

So, Q - we were both sort of right on hosting.  They split the middle.  The East, Atlantic and South lost their second host.  South is the one that tends towards your idea that they just picked the most worthy teams overall.  It appears maybe they gave the #1 in each region a host and then split it up after that.

We'll definitely take that into account for next year.  When we were bracketing last night, we started with two in each region, but even we had to add one in the GL just to make the geography work (especially for Hope).  A very strange year with lots of options.

I actually think that the geographic proximity helped TLU this time. The South is actually 2 divisions now, West and East. There is very little crossover.

Emory looked like the strongest team in the South but TLU had the numbers by week #3.  IMHO, Randolph knocked VWC out. There must have been some very long discussions to put LaGrange on the table ahead of VWC.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

So, Q - we were both sort of right on hosting.  They split the middle.  The East, Atlantic and South lost their second host.  South is the one that tends towards your idea that they just picked the most worthy teams overall.  It appears maybe they gave the #1 in each region a host and then split it up after that.

We'll definitely take that into account for next year.  When we were bracketing last night, we started with two in each region, but even we had to add one in the GL just to make the geography work (especially for Hope).  A very strange year with lots of options.

I actually think that the geographic proximity helped TLU this time. The South is actually 2 divisions now, West and East. There is very little crossover.

Emory looked like the strongest team in the South but TLU had the numbers by week #3.  IMHO, Randolph knocked VWC out. There must have been some very long discussions to put LaGrange on the table ahead of VWC.

That winning percentage doomed them.  The SOS wasn't that different and LaGrange was a much better candidate.  I feel bad Lynchburg didn't get the host.  Geographically they're right in the sweet spot bridging GL and MA teams - you could really do some fun things with the pods for sectionals if you have them in there.  Oh well.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

VWC had a winning percentage of .667 - squarely on the Mendoza Line in Division III.

[Ralph Turner]

What type of (UAA) internecine battles occurred with NYU jumping Rochester?

I wish I could have heard that Regional Ranking Committee discussion.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

What type of (UAA) internecine battles occurred with NYU jumping Rochester?

I wish I could have heard that Regional Ranking Committee discussion.

Not only that, but Oswego St had to have jumped them as well.
The only other team that got in while someone ahead on the 3rd rankings were left out was LaGrange who jumped Virginia Wesleyan and NC Wesleyan in the South.

[John Gleich]

This may be a string that nobody (else) wants to talk about the day the field is announced...

But my team's been out since before the new year... so....

7 of UWSP's 11 Non-con opponents made the field (3-4: Augie (L), Hope (L), Keene St. (W), North Central (L), St. Olaf (W), St. Norbert (W), St. Thomas (L)).

Adding Oshkosh (1-1), UWSP went 4-5 vs. the field.

And of Point's 8 NCAA opponents, 3 of them are hosting (St. Norbert, Augustana, and St. Thomas) the first weekend.

Not bad for a 14-12 team.

Any other non-field teams have as many opponents or as "good" a record?

[Ralph Turner]

This may be a string that nobody (else) wants to talk about the day the field is announced...

But my team's been out since before the new year... so....

7 of UWSP's 11 Non-con opponents made the field (3-4: Augie (L), Hope (L), Keene St. (W), North Central (L), St. Olaf (W), St. Norbert (W), St. Thomas (L)).

Adding Oshkosh (1-1), UWSP went 4-5 vs. the field.

And of Point's 8 NCAA opponents, 3 of them are hosting (St. Norbert, Augustana, and St. Thomas) the first weekend.

Not bad for a 14-12 team.

Any other non-field teams have as many opponents or as "good" a record?

Congrats on the great season. I guess that the 10-7 record against teams not in the field has to have the Pointer faithful wondering what if.

[Greek Tragedy]

Congrats on the great season. I guess that the 10-7 record against teams not in the field has to have the Pointer faithful wondering what if.

I have no doubt they are looking themselves in the mirror last year's National Championship plaque and wondering where it all went wrong.