Pool C

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Depends on the direction you go in ... Wooster to Augustana is 500; Augustana to Wooster is 501. We've seen this quirk elsewhere.

FYI - basically 500 is the line of demarcation. 499.9 is a bus. 500 is considered a "flight." That's what we have been told by the committees in years past. We will work to confirm that again as I am sure the committee is looking at those kinds of options.

[sac]

The NCAA uses this: https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

Wooster and Augustana are exactly 500 miles from each other.

Wooster was sent to Augustana not that long ago.

[Gregory Sager]

Wheaton, includentally, can't get to Lincoln, according to the NCAA software. But North Central comes in as being 499 miles away.

[WUPHF]

Funny, I got 501 from that software. Did a geological fault just open up somewhere in the midwest?

Or, Illinois closed a road.

[Gregory Sager]

The NCAA uses this: https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

Wooster and Augustana are exactly 500 miles from each other.

Wooster was sent to Augustana not that long ago.

I can't find that in any recent brackets. Of course, Wooster would have gone to Augie last season, but the Scots lost to John Carroll in the second round. So it was JCU that moved on to the Rock Island sectional. JCU is 503 miles from Augie according to the software, and was therefore entitled to a flight, but as I recall JCU declined the offer and bused instead.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Dickinson did that in the second weekend a few years back ... they were a flight, but decided to bus instead.

A women's program did the same not too long ago.

However (just as an FYI for those interested), when bracketing, the committee cannot consider whether a team will be willing to bus or fly. The mileage dictates the decision, not a call back from the school with the question asked. If we opened that door, it would be impossible to put a bracket together in a timely manner.

[fantastic50]

The NCAA uses this: https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

Wooster and Augustana are exactly 500 miles from each other.

Wooster was sent to Augustana not that long ago.

I can't find that in any recent brackets. Of course, Wooster would have gone to Augie last season, but the Scots lost to John Carroll in the second round. So it was JCU that moved on to the Rock Island sectional. JCU is 503 miles from Augie according to the software, and was therefore entitled to a flight, but as I recall JCU declined the offer and bused instead.

In 2008, Wooster was sent to Augustana, where they fell 79-74 to eventual national champ Wash. U.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

That is a pretty long time ago ... and there were far less flights in those days. They very likely looked at it differently then. Furthermore, the mileage could have been slightly different (construction and such changes those things; I know the system has evolved since 2008).

That was the year St. Mary's upset Guilford in the first round and ended up getting flown to WashU in the second weekend - something no one saw coming.

[wally_wabash]

That was the year St. Mary's upset Guilford in the first round and ended up getting flown to WashU in the second weekend - something no one saw coming.

That's why they call it Madness, Dave!   

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

That was the year St. Mary's upset Guilford in the first round and ended up getting flown to WashU in the second weekend - something no one saw coming.

That's why they call it Madness, Dave!   

This is so very, very true.

[Gregory Sager]

The NCAA uses this: https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

Wooster and Augustana are exactly 500 miles from each other.

Wooster was sent to Augustana not that long ago.

I can't find that in any recent brackets. Of course, Wooster would have gone to Augie last season, but the Scots lost to John Carroll in the second round. So it was JCU that moved on to the Rock Island sectional. JCU is 503 miles from Augie according to the software, and was therefore entitled to a flight, but as I recall JCU declined the offer and bused instead.

In 2008, Wooster was sent to Augustana, where they fell 79-74 to eventual national champ Wash. U.

OK. I didn't go back that far. "Recent" and "not that long ago" are relative terms, after all.

[sac]

The NCAA uses this: https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

Wooster and Augustana are exactly 500 miles from each other.

Wooster was sent to Augustana not that long ago.

I can't find that in any recent brackets. Of course, Wooster would have gone to Augie last season, but the Scots lost to John Carroll in the second round. So it was JCU that moved on to the Rock Island sectional. JCU is 503 miles from Augie according to the software, and was therefore entitled to a flight, but as I recall JCU declined the offer and bused instead.

In 2008, Wooster was sent to Augustana, where they fell 79-74 to eventual national champ Wash. U.

OK. I didn't go back that far. "Recent" and "not that long ago" are relative terms, after all.

Yeesh, amen.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

The NCAA uses this: https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

Wooster and Augustana are exactly 500 miles from each other.

Wooster was sent to Augustana not that long ago.

I can't find that in any recent brackets. Of course, Wooster would have gone to Augie last season, but the Scots lost to John Carroll in the second round. So it was JCU that moved on to the Rock Island sectional. JCU is 503 miles from Augie according to the software, and was therefore entitled to a flight, but as I recall JCU declined the offer and bused instead.

In 2008, Wooster was sent to Augustana, where they fell 79-74 to eventual national champ Wash. U.

OK. I didn't go back that far. "Recent" and "not that long ago" are relative terms, after all.

Yeesh, amen.

So, not to throw a wrench into things.  I've been told the distance has to be less that 500 miles - in other words 499.9.  Now, I'm not sure they were using the same software in 2008, so it might've been different - or maybe they were interpreting things differently back then.  It's also interesting to note that while it's 500 miles from Wooster to Augustana, it's 503 miles from Augustana to Wooster - damn those divided highways!

[Greek Tragedy]

So if they take the Wooster to Augustana route, but drive backwards Augustana can get to Wooster?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

So if they take the Wooster to Augustana route, but drive backwards Augustana can get to Wooster?

I was told last year that 500.0 is too far.  It has to be 499.9 or else the NCAA is liable for a flight.  A team might not take it, but, at least last year, 499.9 was the limit.