Pool C

[USee]

I would think that Wheaton, with a win @IWU in a huge match up on Saturday, would make themselves a lock for Pool C (if they don't end up with the AQ), going from "bubble-in" to almost lock status no (5 RRO wins and average SOS)? IWU is already a lock for pool C (6 RRO wins and a strong SOS). I don't understand some of the teams with 2-3 RRO wins and middling SOS numbers.

One of the points Mike Schauer made on the Q-Cast with Bob is that there are so many more teams with RRO results (went from 60ish to like 84 teams that are ranked with the new regions) so some of the RRO results will need to be examined more closely to see the quality of those RRO results. That's different than years past--more nuanced. Schauer said there will be a lot of teams with 2-3 RRO wins and he thought 3.5 would be the line you would have to cross to be in the conversation for spots 18-20 of at large bids.

[ronk]

My conversation today with Mike Schauer, MBB National Committee Chair, after the release of ranking #1.


Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrxTX7UirI&t=26s

Part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwDUb2uGVts

From Part 1 where Mike Schauer says more teams are regionally ranked(83 from 20% of total) than in the past(68), why was the number increased? It shouldn't have anything to do with the increase of regions from 8 to 10.

[thebear]

Looks like they decided that they would rank 20% of the teams, [417*.2 = ~83], and then split them among the regions based on # of teams.

Interesting how stacked some regions are vs. Others, in some cases .500 teams are ranked in others, 6 loss teams are not.

[Greek Tragedy]

So, anyone smarter than me feel like wasting time and guessing what each region's ranking could actually look like?

https://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

http://www.fantastic50.net/d3h_men.html

Thanks again for the links.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

So, anyone smarter than me feel like wasting time and guessing what each region's ranking could actually look like?

Matt Snyder and I spent an hour on Twitter Spaces on Tuesday breaking all ten regions down.  Unfortunately, at the time, I was unaware those could be recorded and archived.  Sorry.  I'll do better next time.

Since we'll actually have rankings this week (plus a Top 16 announcement on Thursday) - I'm contemplating a live mock bracketing to get some reps in before the real thing.  I'll definitely record it if it happens.

[PauldingLightUP]

So, anyone smarter than me feel like wasting time and guessing what each region's ranking could actually look like?

Matt Snyder and I spent an hour on Twitter Spaces on Tuesday breaking all ten regions down.  Unfortunately, at the time, I was unaware those could be recorded and archived.  Sorry.  I'll do better next time.

Since we'll actually have rankings this week (plus a Top 16 announcement on Thursday) - I'm contemplating a live mock bracketing to get some reps in before the real thing.  I'll definitely record it if it happens.

I appreciate the Spaces. I tuned in at the very end and it was entertaining and informative. I've never hosted a Spaces didn't even know a record/non record option existed. I'd tune in again next Tuesday and/or Thursday!

[KnightSlappy]

So, anyone smarter than me feel like wasting time and guessing what each region's ranking could actually look like?

Matt Snyder and I spent an hour on Twitter Spaces on Tuesday breaking all ten regions down.  Unfortunately, at the time, I was unaware those could be recorded and archived.  Sorry.  I'll do better next time.

Since we'll actually have rankings this week (plus a Top 16 announcement on Thursday) - I'm contemplating a live mock bracketing to get some reps in before the real thing.  I'll definitely record it if it happens.

I would be willing to participate in another spaces with you if I'm free. I had fun doing it!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

After several weeks of midday shows, we are back to our regularly scheduled time of 7:00 PM ET - and we are super-sizing the show tonight to make up for not being able to be on air Thursday AND the craziness that has happened in the last week!



Today is a day we celebrate those we love and for many of us that includes the student-athletes, coaches, administrators, and programs in Division III.

On Monday's Hoopsville, we super-size the show to cover everything that has happened in the last week while also trying to look ahead at conference tournaments which start soon. After all, we are just two weeks away from talking about who is in or out of the NCAA Tournaments.

Plus, we look at the latest Top 25 polls which will be released Monday evening and react to the men's poll which will clearly undergo some shakeup.

Guests included:

• Jenna Cosgrove, Rhode Island women's coach
• Jon VanderWal, No. 2 Marietta men's coach
• Lance Thornhill, Fontbonne men's coach
• James Wallace, LeTourneau men's coach
• Keri Carollo, No. 7 UW Whitewater women's coach
• Anthony Mason, Vassar women's coach
• Top 25 Double-Take Super Sized: Akiva Poppers, Bob Quillman, Mike Rejniak, Ryan Whitnable

Watch the show here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/feb14

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Looks like they decided that they would rank 20% of the teams, [417*.2 = ~83], and then split them among the regions based on # of teams.

Interesting how stacked some regions are vs. Others, in some cases .500 teams are ranked in others, 6 loss teams are not.

yes - the handbook states clearly they are ranking 20%. This is a change from the 15-20% the last few championship seasons ... and from 15% back in 2017 I think.

This is across the board in all sports.

Needs to change ...

[KnightSlappy]

Yes, I think they need to go back to ~15 which would match up generally to the number of teams to make the tournament. So a regionally ranked win would roughly approximate a win over a tournament-quality team.

[ronk]

Looks like they decided that they would rank 20% of the teams, [417*.2 = ~83], and then split them among the regions based on # of teams.

Interesting how stacked some regions are vs. Others, in some cases .500 teams are ranked in others, 6 loss teams are not.

yes - the handbook states clearly they are ranking 20%. This is a change from the 15-20% the last few championship seasons ... and from 15% back in 2017 I think.

This is across the board in all sports.

Needs to change ...

So, why did they increase it from 15%? One would need a good reason to change from the status quo, rather than maintaining it.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Looks like they decided that they would rank 20% of the teams, [417*.2 = ~83], and then split them among the regions based on # of teams.

Interesting how stacked some regions are vs. Others, in some cases .500 teams are ranked in others, 6 loss teams are not.

yes - the handbook states clearly they are ranking 20%. This is a change from the 15-20% the last few championship seasons ... and from 15% back in 2017 I think.

This is across the board in all sports.

Needs to change ...

So, why did they increase it from 15%? One would need a good reason to change from the status quo, rather than maintaining it.

Well they increased a number of years ago because some regions were a bit small and numbers tight ... and others large and needed less ranked.

Why they increased this time from 15-21% to flat 20%? I suspect they thought it would help balance the regions a bit more in terms of rankings... and the number was larger than they anticipated.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Week 2 Regional Rankings - which are ranked now: https://d3hoops.com/notables/2022/02/men-regional-rankings-first

[PauldingLightUP]

What is Division Head-to-Head and where is the vRRO category?

[Inkblot]

So... third-year provisional teams can be ranked?