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David Collinge

#945
February 21, 2007, 01:09:26 PM
Here's the top 67 teams (QoWI 9.3 and up) with conference and presumptive pool added.  I am not predicting A's, I am not attempting to identify who is leading a conference for the A, I'm merely picking the first-listed team in each conference and awarding the A on that basis (disclaimers required because of endless confused misunderstanding on this subject last year.)  The B's and C's are bolded and numbered (C1-C32 and B1-B4.)  There will be 3 B and 19 C bids awarded.

   1   11.652   1   UW-Stevens Point   0.957 (22-1)   23-2 WIAC A   
   2   11.625   1   Amherst   0.958 (23-1)   24-1 NESCAC A   
   3   10.950   2   Trinity (Conn.)   0.850 (17-3)   21-3 NESCAC C1   
   4   10.810   3   Worcester Polytech   0.905 (19-2)   21-2 NEWMAC A   
   5   10.708   4   Salem State   0.920 (23-2)   23-2 MASCAC A   
   6   10.696   1   Chicago   0.818 (18-4)   20-4 UAA A   
   7   10.667   1   Mississippi College   0.952 (20-1)   22-2 ASC A   
   8   10.640   2   St. Thomas   0.880 (22-3)   22-3 MIAC A   
   9   10.600   1   Lake Erie   0.950 (19-1)   23-2 AMCC A   
   10   10.520   5   Rhode Island College   0.880 (22-3)   22-3 LEC A   
   11   10.400   1   Brockport State   0.840 (21-4)   22-4 SUNYAC A   
   12   10.381   2   Washington U.   0.810 (17-4)   19-4 UAA C2   
   13   10.375   2   Virginia Wesleyan   0.875 (21-3)   22-3 ODAC A   
   14   10.333   3   Aurora   0.913 (21-2)   23-2 NathCon B1   
   15   10.318   3   St. John's   0.864 (19-3)   19-6 MIAC C3   
   16   10.292   2   St. Lawrence   0.792 (19-5)   20-5 LL A   
   17   10.261   1   Ramapo   0.783 (18-5)   19-7 NJAC A   
   18   10.250   4   Occidental   0.813 (13-3)   18-5 SCIAC A   
   19   10.250   4   Augustana   0.833 (20-4)   20-5 CCIW A   
   20   10.238   3   DePauw   0.900 (18-2)   21-4 SCAC A   
   21   10.217   3   Rochester   0.739 (17-6)   17-7 UAA C4   
   22   10.217   6   Keene State   0.826 (19-4)   22-4 LEC C4   
   23   10.208   4   St. John Fisher   0.792 (19-5)   20-5 E8 A   
   24   10.174   5   UW-Oshkosh   0.783 (18-5)   21-5 WIAC C6   
   25   10.174   1   Johns Hopkins   0.864 (19-3)   21-4 Centennial A   
   26   10.136   2   John Carroll   0.727 (16-6)   17-8 OAC A   
   27   10.125   7   Brandeis   0.750 (18-6)   18-6 UAA C7   
   28   10.105   2   Messiah   0.842 (16-3)   19-5 MACC A   
   29   10.038   2   Stevens   0.808 (21-5)   21-5 SKY A   
   30   10.000   4   Guilford   0.870 (20-3)   21-3 ODAC C8   
   31   10.000   5   Averett   0.800 (16-4)   18-6 USASAC A   
   32   10.000   3   Catholic   0.792 (19-5)   20-5 CAC A   
   33   10.000   4   Lincoln   0.786 (11-3)   17-7 Ind B2   
   34   10.000   3   Wooster   0.900 (18-2)   23-3 NCAC A   
   35   9.960   6   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.840 (21-4)   21-4 ASC C9   
   36   9.909   6   Whitworth   0.864 (19-3)   22-3 NWC A   
   37   9.905   7   Loras   0.810 (17-4)   19-6 IIAC A   
   38   9.900   4   Ohio Northern   0.700 (14-6)   19-6 OAC C10   
   39   9.875   5   Hood   0.792 (19-5)   20-6 CAC C11   
   40   9.870   5   New York University   0.783 (18-5)   19-5 UAA C12   
   41   9.870   6   Scranton   0.739 (17-6)   19-6 MACF A   
   42   9.864   8   UW-La Crosse   0.727 (16-6)   18-7 WIAC C13   
   43   9.800   3   Manhattanville   0.800 (20-5)   21-5 SKY C14   
   44   9.792   8   Bates   0.708 (17-7)   18-7 NESCAC C15   
   45   9.778   7   Centre   0.778 (14-4)   20-4 SCAC C16   
   46   9.773   8   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.864 (19-3)   19-6 GSAC B3   
   47   9.765   5   Hope   0.824 (14-3)   21-3 MIAA A   
   48   9.762   6   Hamilton   0.714 (15-6)   18-6 LL C17   
   49   9.739   7   Alvernia   0.913 (21-2)   22-4 PennaAC A   
   50   9.737   6   Westminster (Pa.)   0.842 (16-3)   18-7 PresAC B4/C18   
   51   9.708   9   Husson   0.875 (21-3)   21-5 NAC A   
   52   9.652   4   New Jersey City   0.696 (16-7)   17-8 NJAC C19   
   53   9.650   5   Elmhurst   0.750 (15-5)   19-5 CCIW C20   
   54   9.636   9   McMurry   0.818 (18-4)   19-6 ASC C21   
   55   9.625   8   King's   0.708 (17-7)   17-8 MACF C22   
   56   9.529   9   Lewis and Clark   0.765 (13-4)   18-6 NWC C23   
   57   9.500   6   Carthage   0.650 (13-7)   16-8 CCIW C24   
   58   9.500   7   Capital   0.667 (16-8)   16-8 OAC C24   
   59   9.476   8   Wittenberg   0.810 (17-4)   22-4 NCAC C26   
   60   9.409   7   Grinnell   0.727 (16-6)   17-6 MWC A   
   61   9.364   9   FDU-Florham   0.636 (14-8)   17-8 MACF C27   
   62   9.360   10   Tufts   0.600 (15-10)   15-10 NESCAC C28   
   63   9.348   7   Utica   0.739 (17-6)   18-6 E8 C29   
   64   9.346   11   Western New England   0.731 (19-7)   19-7 GNAC A   
   65   9.318   10   DeSales   0.727 (16-6)   18-7 MACF C30   
   66   9.316   8   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.632 (12-7)   16-8 CCIW C31   
   67   9.300   5   Rowan   0.750 (15-5)   20-5 NJAC C32   

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#946
February 21, 2007, 01:13:17 PM
Awesome work David - thanks!!!!!
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Pat Coleman

#947
February 21, 2007, 01:17:43 PM
Excellent, so it looks like the floor is around 9.730.
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#948
February 21, 2007, 01:25:48 PM
Someone on the MIAC board directed us here for the new region rankings...but I'm not seeing it. Could someone help us out with some better directions (including womens rankings, if possible)? :)
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Pat Coleman

#949
February 21, 2007, 01:33:20 PM
Regional rankings are linked on the front page and come out sometime after 4 p.m. ET.
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Titan Q

#950
February 21, 2007, 01:36:12 PM
Here is how things turned out last year...



1-10
Amherst     12.160     24-1
Lawrence    11.682    22-0
Worcester Polytech    11.250    20-3
Mississippi College    11.154    25-1
Tufts    11.000    20-5 Pool C
St. John Fisher    11.000    22-1
Lincoln    10.688    12-4  Pool B
Wittenberg    10.652    20-3
Gordon    10.560    22-3 Pool C
Carnegie Mellon    10.550    16-4

11-20
Virginia Wesleyan    10.481    24-3
Augustana    10.478    19-4 Pool C
Cortland State    10.440    22-3 Pool C
York (Pa.)    10.400    22-3 Pool C
Transylvania    10.370    23-4
Trinity (Texas)    10.316    16-3 Pool C
UW-Whitewater    10.304    18-5
William Paterson    10.240    19-6
Hope    10.211    17-2
North Central    10.095    16-5
               
21-30
Bates    10.091    16-6 (not selected)
Carroll    10.087    19-4 Pool C
Ursinus    10.080    20-5
Baldwin-Wallace    10.077    22-4
Washington U.    10.050    14-6 (not selected)
Wooster    10.042    21-3 Pool C
Carleton    10.000    18-5 Pool C
St. Thomas    9.960    20-5
Baruch    9.958    21-3 Pool C
Alvernia    9.958    21-3
               
31-40
Illinois Wesleyan    9.952    15-6 Pool C
Puget Sound    9.944    16-2
Widener    9.920    20-5 Pool C
Lakeland    9.905    17-4 (not selected)
UW-La Crosse    9.880    18-7 Pool C
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.875    19-5
UW-Stout    9.870    18-5 Pool C
Randolph-Macon    9.840    19-6 Pool C
Keene State    9.800    18-7 (not selected)
Fisk    9.800    10-5 (not selected for Pool B)
               
41-50
Trinity (Conn.)    9.750    15-5 (not selected)
Occidental    9.750    12-4 Pool C
Calvin    9.733    13-2 Pool C
Utica    9.692    20-6 Pool C
MIT    9.680    17-7 (not selected)
Messiah    9.583    17-7
Whitworth    9.542    18-6 (not selected)
Catholic    9.542    19-5
Endicott    9.520    16-8
Lake Erie    9.500    18-4

systemfan86

#951
February 21, 2007, 02:11:43 PM
Thanks David for your effort on that. Very interesting.

Ralph Turner

#952
February 21, 2007, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on February 21, 2007, 12:42:28 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 21, 2007, 12:27:41 PM
Thanks David.

Please remember that there may be a dramatic rise in the QOWI's in the tourneys.  For example, McMurry could defeat 3 "15-point" teams (UT-Dallas, Miss College and UMHB) if they win the ASC Tourney.  My rough calculation takes their QOWI to 10.280 in that scenario.  I also do not see any deterioration by losses by other South Region teams (McMurry opponents) in their respective QOWI's.

Also, Westminster at "B4" is also "C19".  Bingo!  Theoretically, they may get in either way.  :)

Good point about Westminster.  I'll adjust my post to reflect that.

If McMurry wins the ASC tournament, nobody will care what their QoWI was.  Every Pool C candidate, by definition (except UAA teams and Oxy) must incure at least one more loss--and for that matter, the four of the UAA Pool C candidates square off this weekend, so only Rochester and the winner of NYU/Brandeis can get a Pool C without losing (even Oxy, who wins the Pool A bid if they win tomorrow.) 

I see Pat has re-run the list, so I'll delete my version and re-post it based on the new list.

Good point about McMurry's QOWI.  No one will care about their QOWI, because geograhic proximity will have the #2 team in the South Miss Coll hosting the #3 team McMurry!   :D ;D :-\ ;) :o 8)

dman

#953
February 21, 2007, 04:04:32 PM
i would be shocked if bates (currently 44th and your 15th pool c) gets a bid......

Pat Coleman

#954
February 21, 2007, 04:21:55 PM
Perhaps, but they are still ranked in the Northeast. Last year, however, they left Keene State out and Keene was in a similar position numerically.
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ChicagoHopeNut

#955
February 21, 2007, 04:25:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2007, 01:17:43 PM
Excellent, so it looks like the floor is around 9.730.

Pat, What do you mean the floor is 9.730 since DC's shows C-32 at 9.3? Are you assuming upsets in the tourneys that moves DC's A bids into Pool C?
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Pat Coleman

#956
February 21, 2007, 04:31:00 PM Last Edit: February 21, 2007, 04:33:12 PM by David Collinge
There are only 19 Pool C bids, however.
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#957
February 21, 2007, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2007, 04:31:00 PM
There are only 19 Pool C bids, however.
Ahhh, thanks.
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Pat Coleman

#958
February 21, 2007, 05:30:07 PM
Thanks, David, my bad. Getting my years confused!
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John Gleich

#959
February 21, 2007, 06:30:44 PM
Thanks for this information... very interesting!
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