Pool C

sac · March 08, 2008, 01:33:14 AM

C's 9-1 vs A's, so far.

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 08, 2008, 01:16:52 AM
And the Bumblin' Bs live 'up' to their name with an 0-4 record. They even took down Murvul's streak.

Little less bumble than in past years. Margins of 11, 18, 6 and 8.

Mr. Ypsi · March 08, 2008, 01:43:28 AM

Quote from: sac on March 08, 2008, 01:33:14 AM
C's 9-1 vs A's, so far.

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 08, 2008, 01:16:52 AM
And the Bumblin' Bs live 'up' to their name with an 0-4 record. They even took down Murvul's streak.

Little less bumble than in past years. Margins of 11, 18, 6 and 8.

By scores, yes. But it included losing to a team with a losing record, and taking Murvul down with 'em. I'd say the 'bumble' still lives.

David Collinge · March 08, 2008, 11:25:16 AM

Quote from: sac on March 08, 2008, 01:33:14 AM
C's 9-1 vs A's, so far.

I make it 10-0 at a quick glance; all three C losses (COW, WPI, Midd) were to other C's (WUSTL, VWC, Roch).

sac · March 08, 2008, 01:38:29 PM

Quote from: David Collinge on March 08, 2008, 11:25:16 AM
Quote from: sac on March 08, 2008, 01:33:14 AM
C's 9-1 vs A's, so far.

I make it 10-0 at a quick glance; all three C losses (COW, WPI, Midd) were to other C's (WUSTL, VWC, Roch).

Now I come up with 9-0 for the C's over A's.

Greek Tragedy · March 09, 2008, 11:34:26 AM

I'll keep track of the results from Pool C and Pool B.

Pool A-PA; Pool B-PB; Pool C-PC

Rochester: Def. Middlebury 56-43 (Pool C); def. Penn-State Behrend 65-56 (Pool A):
~~Capital~~: Def. Bethany 92-70 (Pool A); LOST to Hope 92-72 (Pool A):
~~Wooster~~: LOST to Washington U. 79-74 (Pool C):
Gettysburg: Def. Salem St. 95-87 (Pool A); def. Elms 66-65: (Pool A):
Washington U.: Def. Wooster 79-74 (Pool C); def. Augustana 70-67 OT (Pool A):
Wheaton (IL): Def. Lawrence 93-83 in OT (Pool A) ; def. Loras 76-73 (Pool A):
Amherst: def. John Jay 96-74 (Pool A):
~~Mass-Dartmouth~~: LOST to Coast Guard 50-47 (Pool A):
Brandeis: Def. Lasell 80-59 (Pool A); def. Bowdoin 68-53 (Pool C):
~~Worcester Polytech Inst~~: LOST to Virginia Wesleyan 80-75 (Pool C):
~~Bowdoin~~: Def. Curry 79-49 (Pool A); LOST to Brandeis 68-53 (Pool C):
~~Middlebury~~: LOST to Rochester 56-43 (Pool C):
~~Centre~~: Def. Franklin 75-61 (Pool A); LOST to Ohio Wesleyan 82-65 (Pool A):
~~Virginia Wesleyan~~: Def. Worcester Polytech 80-75 (Pool C); LOST to Ursinus 70-64 (Pool A):
~~Occidental~~: Def. Ponoma-Pitzer 52-51 (Pool A); LOST to Whitworth 83-75 (Pool A):
~~Stevens Point~~: Def. Univ. of Chicago 67-53 (Pool A); LOST to Buena Vista 54-53 (Pool C):
Buena Vista: Def. St. Thomas 72-70 (Pool A); def. Stevens Point 54-53 (Pool C):

~~Aurora~~: LOST to Augustana 72-61 (Pool A): 0-1 v PA
~~Scranton~~: LOST to Elms 71-53 (Pool A): 0-1 v PA
~~Moravian:~~ LOST to John Jay 80-74 (Pool A): 0-1 v PA
~~Maryville (TN)~~: LOST to Millsaps 80-72 (Pool A): 0-1 v PA

RESULTS BY ROUND

1st Round

Pool C v Pool A (9-0)
Capital def. Bethany
Gettysburg def. Salem St.
Wheaton (IL) def. Lawrence
Brandeis def. Lasell
Bowdoin def. Curry
Centre def. Franklin
Occidental def. Ponoma-Pitzer
Stevens Point def. U. of Chicago
Buena Vista def. St. Thomas

Pool C v Pool C (3-3)
Rochester def. Middlebury
Washington U. def. Wooster
Virginia Wesleyan def. Worcester Polytech

Pool C's Amherst and Mass-Dartmouth had byes.

14 Pool Cs still alive

Pool C v Pool B
None

2nd Round
Pool C v Pool A (5-5)
Rochester def. Penn-State Behrend
Gettysburg def. Elms
Washington U. def. Augustana
Wheaton (IL) def. Loras
Amherst def. John Jay

Capital LOST to Hope
Mass-Dartmouth LOST to Coast Guard
Centre LOST to Ohio Wesleyan
Virginia Wesleyan LOST to Ursinus
Occidental LOST to Whitworth

Pool C v Pool C (2-2)
Brandeis def. Bowdoin
Buena Vista def. Stevens Point

All Pool B's eliminated already

7 Pool Cs alive

Updated for archive sake

Third Round

Pool C vs. Pool A (3-2)
Rochester LOST to Coast Guard
Gettysburg LOST to Ursinus
Wheaton IL beat Whitworth
Amherst beat Richard Stockton
Brandeis beat Plattsburgh

Pool C vs. Pool C (1-1)
WashStL def. Buena Vista in OT.

Pool C goes 4-3. Four remain.

Fourth Round

Pool C vs. Pool A(1-1)

Wheaton IL LOST to Hope
Wash StL beat Millsaps

Pool C vs. Pool C (1-1)

Amherst def. Brandeis

Pool C goes 2-2

Final Four

Pool C vs. Pool A (2-0)
WashStL beat Hope
Amherst beat Ursinus

Pool C vs. Pool C (1-1)

WashStL def. Amherst for the Championship.

Pool C goes 3-1.

Final tally: 28-16 for Pool C.

pabegg · January 18, 2009, 10:02:51 PM

Time to revive this board with the first run of my number crunching for this year.

For those of you who are new or need a refresh, these are my estimates of what the regional rankings would be if they were run this week. These reflect only the winning percentage and strength of schedule components of the rankings, not the head-to-head, common opponents, and record versus ranked components of the rankings; history shows that this ranking process is a pretty good approximation and a good starting point for discussion.

I've ranked three more schools per region than will appear in the official rankings, to try to give an idea of who's close.

At the moment, the CCIW would only have two teams in, with a whole bunch close; three obvious WIAC; three obvious UAA (plus a bubble NYU).

Reg Conf Rank RPI OWP OOWP School Natl Status Reg Overall

NE 16 01 0.6453 0.5686 0.5154 Middlebury 003 C 1 13-1 14-2
NE 13 02 0.6241 0.5216 0.5366 Mass-Dartmouth 013 A w C 11-1 13-1
NE 16 03 0.6067 0.4694 0.5714 Amherst 014 A w C 11-1 13-1
NE 17 04 0.6287 0.5587 0.5404 Worcester Polytech 015 A w C 12-2 12-3
NE 14 05 0.6217 0.5522 0.5364 Salem State 024 A w C 11-2 12-2
NE 17 06 0.5994 0.5141 0.5235 MIT 030 C 11 11-2 12-4
NE 18 07 0.5757 0.4282 0.5233 Elms 033 B 1 12-1 13-1
NE 12 08 0.5848 0.5324 0.5244 Emerson 046 A second 9-3 9-3
NE 16 09 0.5841 0.5288 0.5289 Williams 047 C 21 12-4 12-5
NE 17 10 0.5979 0.5737 0.5301 Wheaton (Mass.) 057 C 27 10-4 10-6
NE 11 11 0.5636 0.4963 0.4617 Gordon 059 A third 8-2 10-3
NE 90 12 0.6381 0.6882 0.5606 Brandeis 063 C 31 8-5 8-5
NE 16 13 0.5889 0.5755 0.5045 Colby 064 C 32 7-3 10-4

EA 21 01 0.6358 0.5317 0.5569 Ithaca 004 A w C 12-1 14-1
EA 24 02 0.6058 0.5264 0.4956 Hamilton 023 C 6 7-1 9-4
EA 90 03 0.6352 0.6002 0.5549 Rochester 027 C 9 11-3 11-3
EA 21 04 0.6040 0.5328 0.5322 St. John Fisher 031 C 12 9-2 12-2
EA 90 05 0.6450 0.6539 0.5449 New York University 036 C 14 8-3 10-3
EA 23 06 0.5818 0.5005 0.5080 Fredonia State 040 C 17 9-2 10-3
EA 24 07 0.6181 0.6045 0.5634 St. Lawrence 045 A second 7-3 9-3
EA 23 08 0.5991 0.5832 0.5635 Oneonta State 066 A third 8-4 10-5

AT 32 01 0.6286 0.5641 0.5291 Richard Stockton 016 A w C 12-2 15-2
AT 32 02 0.5798 0.4708 0.5204 William Paterson 038 C 16 12-2 12-2
AT 33 03 0.5725 0.4738 0.4964 SUNY-Farmingdale 043 A second 11-2 11-2
AT 31 04 0.5560 0.4329 0.5008 Baruch 052 A second 12-2 14-3
AT 33 05 0.5538 0.4313 0.5066 St. Joseph's (L.I.) 058 C 28 11-2 12-2
AT 31 06 0.5391 0.4170 0.5222 Brooklyn 079 12-3 12-3
AT 32 07 0.5601 0.5628 0.4994 Montclair State 102 8-5 11-5
AT 31 08 0.5289 0.4855 0.5017 Lehman 116 9-5 11-5

MA 45 01 0.6288 0.5140 0.5639 Franklin and Marshall 008 A w C 12-1 13-1
MA 41 02 0.6055 0.5085 0.5051 St. Mary's (Md.) 021 A w C 9-1 12-3
MA 45 03 0.6105 0.5277 0.5686 McDaniel 026 C 8 9-2 11-3
MA 45 04 0.5949 0.4840 0.5655 Gettysburg 032 C 13 11-2 11-2
MA 44 05 0.5656 0.4263 0.5097 Gwynedd-Mercy 039 A w C 9-1 10-2
MA 43 06 0.5611 0.4424 0.5135 DeSales 050 A second 11-2 12-2
MA 45 07 0.5796 0.5093 0.5307 Johns Hopkins 053 C 24 10-3 10-4
MA 42 08 0.6051 0.6072 0.5135 Widener 055 A second 9-4 11-4
MA 41 09 0.5395 0.3919 0.5172 Wesley 069 C 36 6-1 8-5
MA 46 10 0.5496 0.4567 0.5070 Catholic 076 B 2 72 13-3
MA 42 11 0.5644 0.5539 0.5070 Albright 087 95 11-5

SO 51 01 0.6295 0.5229 0.5490 Texas-Dallas 007 A w C 12-1 14-1
SO 54 02 0.6041 0.4793 0.5412 Trinity (Texas) 019 A w C 11-1 14-1
SO 53 03 0.5825 0.4071 0.5158 Randolph-Macon 025 C 7 10-0 12-3
SO 51 04 0.6073 0.5563 0.4983 McMurry 028 C 10 9-2 10-4
SO 53 05 0.6004 0.5276 0.5281 Roanoke 034 A w C 9-2 14-2
SO 53 06 0.5889 0.5385 0.4931 Guilford 042 C 19 11-3 12-3
SO 54 07 0.5808 0.5205 0.5322 Centre 054 C 25 9-3 12-3
SO 51 08 0.5787 0.5101 0.5447 LeTourneau 056 C 26 9-3 10-5
SO 54 09 0.5767 0.5102 0.5365 DePauw 061 C 29 93 12-4
SO 54 10 0.5552 0.4677 0.4854 Oglethorpe 067 C 34 8-2 12-3
SO 55 11 0.5629 0.5269 0.5311 North Carolina Wesleyan 083 A 42 10-4

GL 62 01 0.6252 0.4866 0.5278 Calvin 005 A w C 4-0 9-5
GL 64 02 0.6325 0.5420 0.5231 Capital 006 A w C 12-1 14-1
GL 90 03 0.6725 0.6271 0.5608 Carnegie Mellon 010 C 2 7-1 11-2
GL 64 04 0.6014 0.5634 0.5286 John Carroll 041 C 18 9-3 11-4
GL 64 05 0.5947 0.5569 0.5149 Ohio Northern 044 C 20 9-3 11-4
GL 63 06 0.5837 0.5387 0.5075 Wooster 048 A second 9-3 10-5
GL 62 07 0.6261 0.7100 0.4842 Hope 075 3-2 10-5
GL 61 08 0.5444 0.4883 0.4739 Penn State-Behrend 088 A 8-3 9-5
GL 63 09 0.5510 0.4991 0.5133 Hiram 090 9-4 10-5

MW 71 01 0.6705 0.5572 0.5674 Wheaton (Ill.) 001 A w C 11-0 15-0
MW 90 02 0.6036 0.4845 0.5224 Washington U. 017 A w C 12-1 13-1
MW 71 03 0.6417 0.6013 0.5459 North Central 020 C 5 9-2 11-4
MW 72 04 0.6073 0.5670 0.4951 Transylvania 029 A w C 8-2 11-4
MW 74 05 0.5772 0.4360 0.5202 St. Norbert 035 A w C 11-1 12-1
MW 74 06 0.6039 0.5443 0.5413 Carroll 037 C 15 11-3 11-3
MW 71 07 0.6009 0.5656 0.5389 Elmhurst 049 C 22 11-4 11-4
MW 71 08 0.6040 0.6021 0.5452 Carthage 062 C 30 6-3 11-4
MW 71 09 0.5816 0.5365 0.5260 Millikin 065 C 33 8-3 10-4
MW 72 10 0.5635 0.4968 0.5103 Anderson 068 C 35 93 12-4
MW 71 11 0.5756 0.5078 0.5535 Augustana 070 C 37 114 12-4

WE 82 01 0.6530 0.5457 0.5208 St. Thomas 002 A w C 13-0 14-0
WE 83 02 0.6177 0.4501 0.5708 Puget Sound 009 A w C 10-0 13-2
WE 86 03 0.6727 0.6368 0.5506 UW-Stevens Point 011 A w C 13-2 13-2
WE 86 04 0.6614 0.5978 0.5832 UW-Whitewater 012 C 3 13-2 14-2
WE 86 05 0.6525 0.6084 0.5748 UW-Platteville 018 C 4 9-2 14-2
WE 81 06 0.6035 0.4831 0.5313 Buena Vista 022 A w C 11-1 14-1
WE 83 07 0.5817 0.5251 0.5267 Whitworth 051 C 23 9-3 12-3
WE 84 08 0.5507 0.4528 0.4972 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 073 A 8-2 10-4
WE 83 09 0.5942 0.5907 0.5705 Lewis and Clark 080 5-3 11-4
WE 84 10 0.5416 0.4647 0.4872 Cal Lutheran 081 9-3 11-4
WE 89 11 0.5237 0.3887 0.4711 Chapman 086 B 3 11-2 13-2

Reg Region
Conf Conference number
Rank Regional ranking
Prior Prior regional ranking
School
Natl National ranking based on regional results
Status
B + number: Pool B ranking (top 3 in tournament)
C + number: Pool C ranking of 18 teams in tournament
C second: second tier Pool C (spots 19-28)
C third: third tier Pool C (spots 29-38)
A w C: Pool A, in likely Pool C range (1 to 13)
A second: Pool A, in second tier Pool C
A third: Pool A, in third tier Pool C
blank: lower level Pool C

Hugenerd · January 18, 2009, 11:19:18 PM

Quote from: pabegg on January 18, 2009, 10:02:51 PM
Time to revive this board with the first run of my number crunching for this year.

For those of you who are new or need a refresh, these are my estimates of what the regional rankings would be if they were run this week. These reflect only the winning percentage and strength of schedule components of the rankings, not the head-to-head, common opponents, and record versus ranked components of the rankings; history shows that this ranking process is a pretty good approximation and a good starting point for discussion.

I've ranked three more schools per region than will appear in the official rankings, to try to give an idea of who's close.

At the moment, the CCIW would only have two teams in, with a whole bunch close; three obvious WIAC; three obvious UAA (plus a bubble NYU).

Reg Conf Rank RPI OWP OOWP School Natl Status Reg Overall

NE 16 01 0.6453 0.5686 0.5154 Middlebury 003 C 1 13-1 14-2
NE 13 02 0.6241 0.5216 0.5366 Mass-Dartmouth 013 A w C 11-1 13-1
NE 16 03 0.6067 0.4694 0.5714 Amherst 014 A w C 11-1 13-1
NE 17 04 0.6287 0.5587 0.5404 Worcester Polytech 015 A w C 12-2 12-3
NE 14 05 0.6217 0.5522 0.5364 Salem State 024 A w C 11-2 12-2
NE 17 06 0.5994 0.5141 0.5235 MIT 030 C 11 11-2 12-4
NE 18 07 0.5757 0.4282 0.5233 Elms 033 B 1 12-1 13-1
NE 12 08 0.5848 0.5324 0.5244 Emerson 046 A second 9-3 9-3
NE 16 09 0.5841 0.5288 0.5289 Williams 047 C 21 12-4 12-5
NE 17 10 0.5979 0.5737 0.5301 Wheaton (Mass.) 057 C 27 10-4 10-6
NE 11 11 0.5636 0.4963 0.4617 Gordon 059 A third 8-2 10-3
NE 90 12 0.6381 0.6882 0.5606 Brandeis 063 C 31 8-5 8-5
NE 16 13 0.5889 0.5755 0.5045 Colby 064 C 32 7-3 10-4

EA 21 01 0.6358 0.5317 0.5569 Ithaca 004 A w C 12-1 14-1
EA 24 02 0.6058 0.5264 0.4956 Hamilton 023 C 6 7-1 9-4
EA 90 03 0.6352 0.6002 0.5549 Rochester 027 C 9 11-3 11-3
EA 21 04 0.6040 0.5328 0.5322 St. John Fisher 031 C 12 9-2 12-2
EA 90 05 0.6450 0.6539 0.5449 New York University 036 C 14 8-3 10-3
EA 23 06 0.5818 0.5005 0.5080 Fredonia State 040 C 17 9-2 10-3
EA 24 07 0.6181 0.6045 0.5634 St. Lawrence 045 A second 7-3 9-3
EA 23 08 0.5991 0.5832 0.5635 Oneonta State 066 A third 8-4 10-5

AT 32 01 0.6286 0.5641 0.5291 Richard Stockton 016 A w C 12-2 15-2
AT 32 02 0.5798 0.4708 0.5204 William Paterson 038 C 16 12-2 12-2
AT 33 03 0.5725 0.4738 0.4964 SUNY-Farmingdale 043 A second 11-2 11-2
AT 31 04 0.5560 0.4329 0.5008 Baruch 052 A second 12-2 14-3
AT 33 05 0.5538 0.4313 0.5066 St. Joseph's (L.I.) 058 C 28 11-2 12-2
AT 31 06 0.5391 0.4170 0.5222 Brooklyn 079 12-3 12-3
AT 32 07 0.5601 0.5628 0.4994 Montclair State 102 8-5 11-5
AT 31 08 0.5289 0.4855 0.5017 Lehman 116 9-5 11-5

MA 45 01 0.6288 0.5140 0.5639 Franklin and Marshall 008 A w C 12-1 13-1
MA 41 02 0.6055 0.5085 0.5051 St. Mary's (Md.) 021 A w C 9-1 12-3
MA 45 03 0.6105 0.5277 0.5686 McDaniel 026 C 8 9-2 11-3
MA 45 04 0.5949 0.4840 0.5655 Gettysburg 032 C 13 11-2 11-2
MA 44 05 0.5656 0.4263 0.5097 Gwynedd-Mercy 039 A w C 9-1 10-2
MA 43 06 0.5611 0.4424 0.5135 DeSales 050 A second 11-2 12-2
MA 45 07 0.5796 0.5093 0.5307 Johns Hopkins 053 C 24 10-3 10-4
MA 42 08 0.6051 0.6072 0.5135 Widener 055 A second 9-4 11-4
MA 41 09 0.5395 0.3919 0.5172 Wesley 069 C 36 6-1 8-5
MA 46 10 0.5496 0.4567 0.5070 Catholic 076 B 2 72 13-3
MA 42 11 0.5644 0.5539 0.5070 Albright 087 95 11-5

SO 51 01 0.6295 0.5229 0.5490 Texas-Dallas 007 A w C 12-1 14-1
SO 54 02 0.6041 0.4793 0.5412 Trinity (Texas) 019 A w C 11-1 14-1
SO 53 03 0.5825 0.4071 0.5158 Randolph-Macon 025 C 7 10-0 12-3
SO 51 04 0.6073 0.5563 0.4983 McMurry 028 C 10 9-2 10-4
SO 53 05 0.6004 0.5276 0.5281 Roanoke 034 A w C 9-2 14-2
SO 53 06 0.5889 0.5385 0.4931 Guilford 042 C 19 11-3 12-3
SO 54 07 0.5808 0.5205 0.5322 Centre 054 C 25 9-3 12-3
SO 51 08 0.5787 0.5101 0.5447 LeTourneau 056 C 26 9-3 10-5
SO 54 09 0.5767 0.5102 0.5365 DePauw 061 C 29 93 12-4
SO 54 10 0.5552 0.4677 0.4854 Oglethorpe 067 C 34 8-2 12-3
SO 55 11 0.5629 0.5269 0.5311 North Carolina Wesleyan 083 A 42 10-4

GL 62 01 0.6252 0.4866 0.5278 Calvin 005 A w C 4-0 9-5
GL 64 02 0.6325 0.5420 0.5231 Capital 006 A w C 12-1 14-1
GL 90 03 0.6725 0.6271 0.5608 Carnegie Mellon 010 C 2 7-1 11-2
GL 64 04 0.6014 0.5634 0.5286 John Carroll 041 C 18 9-3 11-4
GL 64 05 0.5947 0.5569 0.5149 Ohio Northern 044 C 20 9-3 11-4
GL 63 06 0.5837 0.5387 0.5075 Wooster 048 A second 9-3 10-5
GL 62 07 0.6261 0.7100 0.4842 Hope 075 3-2 10-5
GL 61 08 0.5444 0.4883 0.4739 Penn State-Behrend 088 A 8-3 9-5
GL 63 09 0.5510 0.4991 0.5133 Hiram 090 9-4 10-5

MW 71 01 0.6705 0.5572 0.5674 Wheaton (Ill.) 001 A w C 11-0 15-0
MW 90 02 0.6036 0.4845 0.5224 Washington U. 017 A w C 12-1 13-1
MW 71 03 0.6417 0.6013 0.5459 North Central 020 C 5 9-2 11-4
MW 72 04 0.6073 0.5670 0.4951 Transylvania 029 A w C 8-2 11-4
MW 74 05 0.5772 0.4360 0.5202 St. Norbert 035 A w C 11-1 12-1
MW 74 06 0.6039 0.5443 0.5413 Carroll 037 C 15 11-3 11-3
MW 71 07 0.6009 0.5656 0.5389 Elmhurst 049 C 22 11-4 11-4
MW 71 08 0.6040 0.6021 0.5452 Carthage 062 C 30 6-3 11-4
MW 71 09 0.5816 0.5365 0.5260 Millikin 065 C 33 8-3 10-4
MW 72 10 0.5635 0.4968 0.5103 Anderson 068 C 35 93 12-4
MW 71 11 0.5756 0.5078 0.5535 Augustana 070 C 37 114 12-4

WE 82 01 0.6530 0.5457 0.5208 St. Thomas 002 A w C 13-0 14-0
WE 83 02 0.6177 0.4501 0.5708 Puget Sound 009 A w C 10-0 13-2
WE 86 03 0.6727 0.6368 0.5506 UW-Stevens Point 011 A w C 13-2 13-2
WE 86 04 0.6614 0.5978 0.5832 UW-Whitewater 012 C 3 13-2 14-2
WE 86 05 0.6525 0.6084 0.5748 UW-Platteville 018 C 4 9-2 14-2
WE 81 06 0.6035 0.4831 0.5313 Buena Vista 022 A w C 11-1 14-1
WE 83 07 0.5817 0.5251 0.5267 Whitworth 051 C 23 9-3 12-3
WE 84 08 0.5507 0.4528 0.4972 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 073 A 8-2 10-4
WE 83 09 0.5942 0.5907 0.5705 Lewis and Clark 080 5-3 11-4
WE 84 10 0.5416 0.4647 0.4872 Cal Lutheran 081 9-3 11-4
WE 89 11 0.5237 0.3887 0.4711 Chapman 086 B 3 11-2 13-2

Reg Region
Conf Conference number
Rank Regional ranking
Prior Prior regional ranking
School
Natl National ranking based on regional results
Status
B + number: Pool B ranking (top 3 in tournament)
C + number: Pool C ranking of 18 teams in tournament
C second: second tier Pool C (spots 19-28)
C third: third tier Pool C (spots 29-38)
A w C: Pool A, in likely Pool C range (1 to 13)
A second: Pool A, in second tier Pool C
A third: Pool A, in third tier Pool C
blank: lower level Pool C

Nice Job. +

John Gleich · January 18, 2009, 11:50:01 PM

How many Pool C's do we have this year again?

Ralph Turner · January 19, 2009, 12:13:07 AM

Quote from: PointSpecial on January 18, 2009, 11:50:01 PM
How many Pool C's do we have this year again?

18 Pool C bids (3 Pool B bids).

Greek Tragedy · January 19, 2009, 07:57:55 PM

NathCon gets the 38th bid right?

Ralph Turner · January 19, 2009, 08:08:40 PM

Quote from: Old School.... (Tom Doebler) on January 19, 2009, 07:57:55 PM
NathCon gets the 38th bid right?

Yes.

Greek Tragedy · January 20, 2009, 02:16:41 PM

2009 NCAA Division III Men's Basketball Championship Handbook states there are 39 automatic qualifying conferences (page 14). There are 3 Pool Bs and 18 Pool Cs for a total of 60 teams.

sac · January 20, 2009, 02:24:23 PM

Which means one less bye to work with, or around.

goscots · January 20, 2009, 09:51:16 PM

Quote from: pabegg on January 18, 2009, 10:02:51 PM
Time to revive this board with the first run of my number crunching for this year.

For those of you who are new or need a refresh, these are my estimates of what the regional rankings would be if they were run this week. These reflect only the winning percentage and strength of schedule components of the rankings, not the head-to-head, common opponents, and record versus ranked components of the rankings; history shows that this ranking process is a pretty good approximation and a good starting point for discussion.

I've ranked three more schools per region than will appear in the official rankings, to try to give an idea of who's close.

At the moment, the CCIW would only have two teams in, with a whole bunch close; three obvious WIAC; three obvious UAA (plus a bubble NYU).

Reg Conf Rank RPI OWP OOWP School Natl Status Reg Overall

NE 16 01 0.6453 0.5686 0.5154 Middlebury 003 C 1 13-1 14-2
NE 13 02 0.6241 0.5216 0.5366 Mass-Dartmouth 013 A w C 11-1 13-1
NE 16 03 0.6067 0.4694 0.5714 Amherst 014 A w C 11-1 13-1
NE 17 04 0.6287 0.5587 0.5404 Worcester Polytech 015 A w C 12-2 12-3
NE 14 05 0.6217 0.5522 0.5364 Salem State 024 A w C 11-2 12-2
NE 17 06 0.5994 0.5141 0.5235 MIT 030 C 11 11-2 12-4
NE 18 07 0.5757 0.4282 0.5233 Elms 033 B 1 12-1 13-1
NE 12 08 0.5848 0.5324 0.5244 Emerson 046 A second 9-3 9-3
NE 16 09 0.5841 0.5288 0.5289 Williams 047 C 21 12-4 12-5
NE 17 10 0.5979 0.5737 0.5301 Wheaton (Mass.) 057 C 27 10-4 10-6
NE 11 11 0.5636 0.4963 0.4617 Gordon 059 A third 8-2 10-3
NE 90 12 0.6381 0.6882 0.5606 Brandeis 063 C 31 8-5 8-5
NE 16 13 0.5889 0.5755 0.5045 Colby 064 C 32 7-3 10-4

EA 21 01 0.6358 0.5317 0.5569 Ithaca 004 A w C 12-1 14-1
EA 24 02 0.6058 0.5264 0.4956 Hamilton 023 C 6 7-1 9-4
EA 90 03 0.6352 0.6002 0.5549 Rochester 027 C 9 11-3 11-3
EA 21 04 0.6040 0.5328 0.5322 St. John Fisher 031 C 12 9-2 12-2
EA 90 05 0.6450 0.6539 0.5449 New York University 036 C 14 8-3 10-3
EA 23 06 0.5818 0.5005 0.5080 Fredonia State 040 C 17 9-2 10-3
EA 24 07 0.6181 0.6045 0.5634 St. Lawrence 045 A second 7-3 9-3
EA 23 08 0.5991 0.5832 0.5635 Oneonta State 066 A third 8-4 10-5

AT 32 01 0.6286 0.5641 0.5291 Richard Stockton 016 A w C 12-2 15-2
AT 32 02 0.5798 0.4708 0.5204 William Paterson 038 C 16 12-2 12-2
AT 33 03 0.5725 0.4738 0.4964 SUNY-Farmingdale 043 A second 11-2 11-2
AT 31 04 0.5560 0.4329 0.5008 Baruch 052 A second 12-2 14-3
AT 33 05 0.5538 0.4313 0.5066 St. Joseph's (L.I.) 058 C 28 11-2 12-2
AT 31 06 0.5391 0.4170 0.5222 Brooklyn 079 12-3 12-3
AT 32 07 0.5601 0.5628 0.4994 Montclair State 102 8-5 11-5
AT 31 08 0.5289 0.4855 0.5017 Lehman 116 9-5 11-5

MA 45 01 0.6288 0.5140 0.5639 Franklin and Marshall 008 A w C 12-1 13-1
MA 41 02 0.6055 0.5085 0.5051 St. Mary's (Md.) 021 A w C 9-1 12-3
MA 45 03 0.6105 0.5277 0.5686 McDaniel 026 C 8 9-2 11-3
MA 45 04 0.5949 0.4840 0.5655 Gettysburg 032 C 13 11-2 11-2
MA 44 05 0.5656 0.4263 0.5097 Gwynedd-Mercy 039 A w C 9-1 10-2
MA 43 06 0.5611 0.4424 0.5135 DeSales 050 A second 11-2 12-2
MA 45 07 0.5796 0.5093 0.5307 Johns Hopkins 053 C 24 10-3 10-4
MA 42 08 0.6051 0.6072 0.5135 Widener 055 A second 9-4 11-4
MA 41 09 0.5395 0.3919 0.5172 Wesley 069 C 36 6-1 8-5
MA 46 10 0.5496 0.4567 0.5070 Catholic 076 B 2 72 13-3
MA 42 11 0.5644 0.5539 0.5070 Albright 087 95 11-5

SO 51 01 0.6295 0.5229 0.5490 Texas-Dallas 007 A w C 12-1 14-1
SO 54 02 0.6041 0.4793 0.5412 Trinity (Texas) 019 A w C 11-1 14-1
SO 53 03 0.5825 0.4071 0.5158 Randolph-Macon 025 C 7 10-0 12-3
SO 51 04 0.6073 0.5563 0.4983 McMurry 028 C 10 9-2 10-4
SO 53 05 0.6004 0.5276 0.5281 Roanoke 034 A w C 9-2 14-2
SO 53 06 0.5889 0.5385 0.4931 Guilford 042 C 19 11-3 12-3
SO 54 07 0.5808 0.5205 0.5322 Centre 054 C 25 9-3 12-3
SO 51 08 0.5787 0.5101 0.5447 LeTourneau 056 C 26 9-3 10-5
SO 54 09 0.5767 0.5102 0.5365 DePauw 061 C 29 93 12-4
SO 54 10 0.5552 0.4677 0.4854 Oglethorpe 067 C 34 8-2 12-3
SO 55 11 0.5629 0.5269 0.5311 North Carolina Wesleyan 083 A 42 10-4

GL 62 01 0.6252 0.4866 0.5278 Calvin 005 A w C 4-0 9-5
GL 64 02 0.6325 0.5420 0.5231 Capital 006 A w C 12-1 14-1
GL 90 03 0.6725 0.6271 0.5608 Carnegie Mellon 010 C 2 7-1 11-2
GL 64 04 0.6014 0.5634 0.5286 John Carroll 041 C 18 9-3 11-4
GL 64 05 0.5947 0.5569 0.5149 Ohio Northern 044 C 20 9-3 11-4
GL 63 06 0.5837 0.5387 0.5075 Wooster 048 A second 9-3 10-5
GL 62 07 0.6261 0.7100 0.4842 Hope 075 3-2 10-5
GL 61 08 0.5444 0.4883 0.4739 Penn State-Behrend 088 A 8-3 9-5
GL 63 09 0.5510 0.4991 0.5133 Hiram 090 9-4 10-5

MW 71 01 0.6705 0.5572 0.5674 Wheaton (Ill.) 001 A w C 11-0 15-0
MW 90 02 0.6036 0.4845 0.5224 Washington U. 017 A w C 12-1 13-1
MW 71 03 0.6417 0.6013 0.5459 North Central 020 C 5 9-2 11-4
MW 72 04 0.6073 0.5670 0.4951 Transylvania 029 A w C 8-2 11-4
MW 74 05 0.5772 0.4360 0.5202 St. Norbert 035 A w C 11-1 12-1
MW 74 06 0.6039 0.5443 0.5413 Carroll 037 C 15 11-3 11-3
MW 71 07 0.6009 0.5656 0.5389 Elmhurst 049 C 22 11-4 11-4
MW 71 08 0.6040 0.6021 0.5452 Carthage 062 C 30 6-3 11-4
MW 71 09 0.5816 0.5365 0.5260 Millikin 065 C 33 8-3 10-4
MW 72 10 0.5635 0.4968 0.5103 Anderson 068 C 35 93 12-4
MW 71 11 0.5756 0.5078 0.5535 Augustana 070 C 37 114 12-4

WE 82 01 0.6530 0.5457 0.5208 St. Thomas 002 A w C 13-0 14-0
WE 83 02 0.6177 0.4501 0.5708 Puget Sound 009 A w C 10-0 13-2
WE 86 03 0.6727 0.6368 0.5506 UW-Stevens Point 011 A w C 13-2 13-2
WE 86 04 0.6614 0.5978 0.5832 UW-Whitewater 012 C 3 13-2 14-2
WE 86 05 0.6525 0.6084 0.5748 UW-Platteville 018 C 4 9-2 14-2
WE 81 06 0.6035 0.4831 0.5313 Buena Vista 022 A w C 11-1 14-1
WE 83 07 0.5817 0.5251 0.5267 Whitworth 051 C 23 9-3 12-3
WE 84 08 0.5507 0.4528 0.4972 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 073 A 8-2 10-4
WE 83 09 0.5942 0.5907 0.5705 Lewis and Clark 080 5-3 11-4
WE 84 10 0.5416 0.4647 0.4872 Cal Lutheran 081 9-3 11-4
WE 89 11 0.5237 0.3887 0.4711 Chapman 086 B 3 11-2 13-2

Reg Region
Conf Conference number
Rank Regional ranking
Prior Prior regional ranking
School
Natl National ranking based on regional results
Status
B + number: Pool B ranking (top 3 in tournament)
C + number: Pool C ranking of 18 teams in tournament
C second: second tier Pool C (spots 19-28)
C third: third tier Pool C (spots 29-38)
A w C: Pool A, in likely Pool C range (1 to 13)
A second: Pool A, in second tier Pool C
A third: Pool A, in third tier Pool C
blank: lower level Pool C

It's probably obvious to everyone else but what does it mean when there is only an "A" on the line?

Hugenerd · January 20, 2009, 10:44:41 PM

Pabegg had a legend at the bottom of the list, but here is a summary:

A stands for Pool A, which means they are leading their conference and therefore projected to win their conference and get the automatic bid to the NCAAs. B stands for Pool B, which are teams that are either independent or play in conferences that do not get an automatic bid. There are 3 pool B selections this year to the NCAA tourney. C ? stands for Pool C (with the ? their respective ranking within that pool according to pabeggs ratings), these are essentially at large bids for teams that did not get automatic bids. A w C means that even if that team didnt win their conference, they have a good shot at an at large bid (Pool C).