Pool C

[Greek Tragedy]

Final: Richard Stockton 83 - William Patterson 67

Rutgers-Newark 58 Montclair State 57.

Now we need RSNJ to earn the Pool A.

Atlantic Region
1. Richard Stockton 22-2 19-2
2. Farmingdale State 21-2 21-2
3. William Paterson 19-5 19-5
4. Baruch 21-4 19-3
5. St. Joseph's (L.I.) 20-3 19-3

[Greek Tragedy]

WW 84 to 81 with ball and 11 seconds to go

Final 86 to 81

Do we Pool C fans (all of us against everybody else who might be taking the Pool C bid that each of us wants) breathe a sigh of relief?

Big question...Would a first round loss to UWRF knocked UWW so deep into the West Regional rankings that they might not have gotten to the table?

West Region
1. St. Thomas 22-0 22-0
2. Puget Sound 21-2 18-0
3. UW-Whitewater 20-3 19-3
4. UW-Stevens Point 20-3 19-3
5. UW-Platteville 20-3 15-3
6. Buena Vista 22-2 19-2
7. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 16-6 14-4
8. Whitworth 18-5 16-5

I think the WIAC 3 are locks...actually, they could get FOUR because Oshkosh always plays Point tough and if they beat Point, and then play Whitewater...they've already beaten Whitewater at home and they lost a close one in Whitewater...

I think the key was for Whitewater to win their opening round game.

[Hugenerd]

New regional Rankings out:

http://www.ncaa.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/ncaa/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/DIIIMBK22509Regional

[Hugenerd]

Pabegg, looks like Amherst isnt so safe at #34 in your rankings.  Brandeis jumps ahead of them this week. So, as long as Brandeis wins this week against NYU, Brandeis would have to get a Pool C before Amherst would get one.  That cant bode too well for the Lord Jeffs.

[watcher]

I also have a question, st mary's college of maryland are they safe for an at large bid.

[pabegg]

I also have a question, st mary's college of maryland are they safe for an at large bid.

Not quite safe, but will be in barring an extreme number of upsets in conference tournaments.

[Walter17]

Trinity (TX), are they in?

[Hugenerd]

Pabegg,

What do you think this week's regional rankings, along with your RPI numbers, tells you about the Pool C picture?  I would obviously like your thoughts on Amherst/Brandeis but also in other regions, are there any surprises that would change the category you put a team in (lock vs. safe bubble vs. outside of bubble)?   (Due to my lack of knowledge of other conferences, I will use another UAA school as an example).  For example, you had CMU at #45 overall in your RPI, but they are ranked ahead of #32 Calvin and #36 Wooster in the regional rankings.  You had said that #34 or better is probably safe, but with CMU (#45) and Brandeis (#54) being ranked ahead of teams in your top #34 in the regional rankings, do you have any ideas on how this thing will play out?

I am sorry to ask you so many questions but I am very curious as to your thoughts.

[Ralph Turner]

My first thought was that the East Regional Committee injected a dose of sanity by 'flipping" SLU and Hamilton when evaluating the teams versus the numbers (numbers as we see them from pabegg's calculations.)

I think that is why we don't want something "carved in stone".

[LogShow]

Assuming all of the conference winners (top ranked west region teams) win their conference tourneys.  What are Whitworth's chances of getting an at-large, assuming they get one more in-region win and then lose in the NWC championship game?

[Ralph Turner]

Assuming all of the conference winners (top ranked west region teams) win their conference tourneys.  What are Whitworth's chances of getting an at-large, assuming they get one more in-region win and then lose in the NWC championship game?

Let's assume no upsets in the conference tourneys in the West and the three WIAC'S finish at the top.

West Region
1. St. Thomas 22-0 22-0
2. Puget Sound 21-2 18-0
3. UW-Whitewater 20-3 19-3
4. UW-Stevens Point 20-3 19-3
5. UW-Platteville 20-3 15-3
6. Buena Vista 22-2 19-2
7. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 16-6 14-4
8. Whitworth 18-5 16-5

The first two WIAC's come off the table in a hurry.

Now we are looking at 17-6 teams around the country.

My first impression is that Whitworth is comfortably in that C13-C18 bubble.

I think that you should hope for Chapman and CMS to do well and give you a playoff game at Puget Sound.  That has to be a first round bracket where Whitworth plays CMS in the first game and UPS gets Chapman.

[Greek Tragedy]

The above posting of regional rankings was last weeks...

This is todays.

West Region
1. St. Thomas 25-0 24-0
2. Puget Sound 23-2 20-0
3. UW-Stevens Point 21-4 20-4
4. UW-Whitewater 21-4 20-4
5. UW-Platteville 21-4 16-4
6. Buena Vista 23-2 20-2
7. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 18-6 16-4
8. Whitworth 20-5 18-5

[Ralph Turner]

The above posting of regional rankings was last weeks...

This is today's.

West Region
1. St. Thomas 25-0 24-0MIAC
2. Puget Sound 23-2 20-0NWC
3. UW-Stevens Point 21-4 20-4 WIAC
4. UW-Whitewater 21-4 20-4
5. UW-Platteville 21-4 16-4
6. Buena Vista 23-2 20-2 IIAC
7. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 18-6 16-4 SCIAC
8. Whitworth 20-5 18-5

Thanks and +1!   

Deck chairs have been re-arranged.   

[Ralph Turner]

Men's regional rankings (FINAL PUBLIC RANKING)
Records listed are overall record, followed by in-region record.
Atlantic Region
1. Richard Stockton 23-2 20-2
2. Farmingdale State 23-2 23-2
3. Montclair State 20-5 16-5
4. William Paterson 20-6 20-6
5. Baruch 22-4 20-3

East Region
1. Ithaca 24-1 22-1
2. St. Lawrence 19-5 17-5
3. Hamilton 18-6 16-2
4. Utica 17-8 17-8
5. Rochester 16-8 16-8

Great Lakes Region
1. John Carroll 20-4 18-3
2. Capital 22-3 20-3
3. Carnegie Mellon 18-6 14-5
5. Wooster 19-6 18-4
4. Calvin 17-7 12-2
6. Ohio Wesleyan 17-7 16-6

Middle Atlantic Region
1. St. Mary's (Md.) 21-4 18-2
2. Franklin & Marshall 21-4 20-4
3. DeSales 20-5 19-5
4. Widener 20-5 18-5
5. Gwynedd-Mercy 20-5 19-4
6. McDaniel 18-7 16-6
7. Cabrini 19-6 19-6
8. Scranton 19-6 18-6

Midwest Region
1. Wheaton (Ill.) 22-3 18-3
2. Washington U. 22-2 21-2
3. Elmhurst 19-6 19-6
4. Transylvania 19-5 16-3
5. Lawrence 17-6 17-6
6. Augustana 18-7 17-7
7. Carroll 16-7 16-7
8. North Central (Ill.) 16-9 14-7

Northeast Region
1. Worcester Tech 20-4 20-3
2. Middlebury 22-3 20-2
3. Elms 24-1 23-1
4. Rhode Island College 21-4 21-4
5. Mass-Dartmouth 22-3 20-3
6. Salem State 20-5 19-5
7. Bridgewater State 18-6 17-4
8. Brandeis 16-8 16-8
9. Amherst 20-5 18-5
10. Bowdoin 17-8 17-8

South Region
1. Trinity (Texas) 22-3 19-3
2. Texas-Dallas 21-4 19-4
3. Guilford 21-4 20-4
4. Randolph-Macon 20-5 18-2
5. Centre 20-4 16-4
6. McMurry 18-7 17-5
7. DePauw 19-6 15-5
8. Roanoke 19-6 14-6

West Region
1. St. Thomas 25-0 24-0
2. Puget Sound 23-2 20-0
3. UW-Stevens Point 21-4 20-4
4. UW-Whitewater 21-4 20-4
5. UW-Platteville 21-4 16-4
6. Buena Vista 23-2 20-2
7. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 18-6 16-4
8. Whitworth 20-5 18-5

[Hugenerd]

Great Lakes Region
1. John Carroll 20-4 18-3
2. Capital 22-3 20-3
3. Carnegie Mellon 18-6 14-5
5. Wooster 19-6 18-4
4. Calvin 17-7 12-2
6. Ohio Wesleyan 17-7 16-6

The above has caused some confusion on the Great Lakes board. Anyone who can clarify?