Pool C

KnightSlappy · February 06, 2010, 10:47:08 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 04, 2010, 07:49:47 PM
True, but as a SINGLE number to begin sorting out teams, I think KnightSlappy's RPI50 is a great start. We can't know how the committee will weigh W% vs. SOS, so a 50-50 split is as good as we can do.

Dave, your warnings are good for 'newbies' (and appreciated!), but most of us realize there is NO simple formula to predict selections. (And are grateful that there isn't!)

I've been doing some thinking, and weighing WP and SOS 50% against each other is actually weighing WP much more.

The top SOS in the land is 0.611 and the worst is 0.385. That mean's a team's SOS can only vary about 0.226 (I'm sure this doesn't change too much year to year). The high in-region WP is 1.000 and the low is 0.000 so we see full variation there.

So, the RPI50's contribution for WP can be a full 0.500, but the SOS contribution can only really vary by 0.113 at the most.

In the standard RPI, WP can vary up to 0.250 and SOS could vary up to 0.170, which get's us closer but still values WP higher than SOS variation.

Simply taking the number and figuring them against each other may not value the difference in schedule strength high enough. Do the committees take this into consideration? The committee member on Hoopsville said one of their mandates was to value all of the criteria the same, but I guess that still leaves some interpretation.

John Gleich · February 06, 2010, 10:49:39 PM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 06, 2010, 10:47:08 PM
Do the committees take this into consideration?

Your guess is as good as any of ours!

They obviously SHOULD take it into consideration, but...

KnightSlappy · February 07, 2010, 10:31:13 PM

Here we go for this week. Through games reported at 10:00 pm eastern Sunday 2/7/2010. As always, let me know if you see an error.

REG   #   WP    OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI50   RPI     NAT   Pool       REG    OVR   CONF     Team

NE   01   1.000   0.485   0.539   0.503   0.751   0.627   001   A   C      19-0    21-1   NESCAC   Williams
NE   02   0.947   0.487   0.524   0.499   0.723   0.611   005   A   C      18-1    19-2   NEWMAC   MIT
NE   03   0.882   0.557   0.511   0.542   0.712   0.627   008   C   002    15-2    19-2   NESCAC   Middlebury
NE   04   0.824   0.533   0.546   0.537   0.680   0.609   020   C   006    14-3    16-4   NESCAC   Colby
NE   05   0.850   0.491   0.511   0.498   0.674   0.586   024   A   C      17-3    17-4   GNAC     Albertus Magnus
NE   06   0.824   0.509   0.528   0.516   0.670   0.593   029   A   C      14-3    15-5   MASCAC   Bridgewater State
NE   07   0.789   0.520   0.569   0.536   0.663   0.600   033   C   008    15-4    15-4   UAA    Brandeis
NE   08   0.842   0.462   0.501   0.475   0.659   0.567   034   A   C      16-3    17-3   CCC    Gordon
NE   09   0.789   0.486   0.520   0.497   0.643   0.570   045   A   C      15-4    16-4   LEC    Western Connecticut
NE   10   0.714   0.565   0.519   0.550   0.632   0.591   055   C   019    15-6    15-6   LEC    Mass-Dartmouth
NE   11   0.737   0.533   0.509   0.525   0.631   0.578   056   C   020    14-5    15-5   NEWMAC   Worcester Polytech
NE   12   0.750   0.495   0.520   0.503   0.627   0.565   059   C   023    15-5    16-5   GNAC     St. Josephs (Maine)
NE   13   0.684   0.566   0.485   0.539   0.612   0.576   074   C   036    13-6    14-7   GNAC     Emerson
NE   14   0.722   0.476   0.519   0.490   0.606   0.548   078   A        13-5    14-5   NAC    Thomas

E   001   0.905   0.459   0.502   0.473   0.689   0.581   014   A   C      19-2    20-2   AMCC     Medaille
E   002   0.810   0.523   0.549   0.532   0.671   0.601   028   A   C      17-4    18-4   E8     St. John Fisher
E   003   0.800   0.539   0.528   0.536   0.668   0.602   030   C   007    16-4    16-4   E8     Stevens
E   004   0.750   0.532   0.493   0.519   0.635   0.577   051   A   C      15-5    16-5   SUNYAC   Oneonta State
E   005   0.700   0.533   0.544   0.537   0.618   0.578   067   C   030    14-6    15-7   E8     Nazareth
E   006   0.684   0.531   0.557   0.540   0.612   0.576   073   C   035    13-6    14-6   UAA    New York University
E   007   0.750   0.436   0.491   0.454   0.602   0.528   084   A        12-4    16-4   NEAC     SUNYIT
E   008   0.667   0.549   0.509   0.536   0.601   0.568   085   C   045    12-6    14-7   SUNYAC   Brockport State
E   009   0.647   0.552   0.523   0.542   0.595   0.568   094   C   054    11-6    14-7   E8     Ithaca

A   001   0.955   0.521   0.524   0.522   0.738   0.630   002   A   C      21-1    21-1   NJAC     William Paterson
A   002   0.810   0.552   0.513   0.539   0.674   0.607   023   A   C      17-4    18-4   LAND     Merchant Marine
A   003   0.762   0.532   0.535   0.533   0.647   0.590   043   C   013    16-5    16-6   NJAC     Ramapo
A   004   0.700   0.582   0.533   0.566   0.633   0.599   053   C   018    14-6    15-6   NJAC     Richard Stockton
A   005   0.750   0.530   0.486   0.515   0.633   0.574   054   A   C      15-5    15-5   SKY    SUNY-Old Westbury
A   006   0.789   0.445   0.504   0.464   0.627   0.546   058   C   022    15-4    15-4   SKY    SUNY-Maritime
A   007   0.722   0.524   0.522   0.523   0.623   0.573   064   C   027    13-5    17-6   NJAC     Rutgers-Newark
A   008   0.727   0.513   0.496   0.507   0.617   0.562   069   A        16-6    17-6   CUNYAC   Baruch

MA   01   0.789   0.598   0.538   0.578   0.684   0.631   017   A   C      15-4    16-4   MACC     Albright
MA   02   0.900   0.423   0.492   0.446   0.673   0.559   025   A   C      18-2    18-2   CSAC     Cabrini
MA   03   0.833   0.505   0.516   0.509   0.671   0.590   027   A   C      15-3    17-3   CAC    St. Marys (Md.)
MA   04   0.850   0.481   0.494   0.486   0.668   0.577   031   A   C      17-3    17-3   CC     Franklin and Marshall
MA   05   0.778   0.544   0.505   0.531   0.654   0.593   036   C   009    14-4    16-4   CAC    York (Pa.)
MA   06   0.778   0.527   0.533   0.529   0.653   0.591   037   C   010    14-4    17-4   MACC     Lycoming
MA   07   0.733   0.592   0.537   0.573   0.653   0.613   039   C   011    11-4    12-7   MACC     Messiah
MA   08   0.789   0.530   0.487   0.515   0.652   0.584   041   A   C      15-4    16-5   MACF     DeSales
MA   09   0.750   0.559   0.539   0.552   0.651   0.602   042   C   012    12-4    ---   MACC     Alvernia
MA   10   0.700   0.612   0.502   0.576   0.638   0.607   048   C   015    14-6    14-6   MACC     Elizabethtown
MA   11   0.778   0.481   0.522   0.495   0.636   0.566   049   C   016    14-4    15-5   LAND     Catholic
MA   12   0.733   0.534   0.490   0.519   0.626   0.573   060   C   024    11-4    13-6   CAC    Wesley

S   001   0.950   0.520   0.539   0.526   0.738   0.632   003   A   C      19-1    19-1   ODAC     Guilford
S   002   0.889   0.565   0.515   0.548   0.719   0.633   006   C   001    16-2    18-2   ODAC     Virginia Wesleyan
S   003   0.857   0.507   0.522   0.512   0.685   0.599   016   C   004    12-2    16-3   ODAC     Eastern Mennonite
S   004   0.833   0.504   0.493   0.500   0.667   0.583   032   A   C      15-3    17-4   ASC    Texas-Dallas
S   005   0.800   0.504   0.512   0.507   0.653   0.580   038   B   002    12-3    17-4   GSAC     Maryville (Tenn.)
S   006   0.824   0.468   0.512   0.483   0.653   0.568   040   N/A        14-3    18-3   SCAC     Birmingham-Southern
S   007   0.762   0.536   0.499   0.523   0.643   0.583   046   A   C      16-5    16-5   SCAC     Austin
S   008   0.750   0.505   0.490   0.500   0.625   0.562   062   C   025    12-4    16-4   ASC    Mississippi College
S   009   0.714   0.541   0.524   0.535   0.625   0.580   063   C   026    10-4    16-4   ODAC     Randolph-Macon
S   010   0.750   0.490   0.498   0.493   0.621   0.557   065   C   028    15-5    15-6   ASC    Mary Hardin-Baylor
S   011   0.750   0.470   0.510   0.483   0.617   0.550   071   C   033    15-5    16-6   SCAC     Southwestern

GL   01   0.850   0.501   0.508   0.504   0.677   0.590   021   A   C      17-3    17-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   02   0.833   0.522   0.506   0.516   0.675   0.596   022   A   C      10-2    15-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   03   0.750   0.547   0.492   0.529   0.639   0.584   047   C   014    9-3    13-8   MIAA     Calvin
GL   04   0.722   0.570   0.510   0.550   0.636   0.593   050   A   C      13-5    15-5   OAC    John Carroll
GL   05   0.737   0.520   0.528   0.523   0.630   0.576   057   C   021    14-5    15-6   OAC    Wilmington
GL   06   0.762   0.480   0.506   0.489   0.625   0.557   061   A   C-2    16-5    16-5   PrAC     Thomas More
GL   07   0.722   0.495   0.492   0.494   0.608   0.551   075   C   037    13-5    13-6   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   08   0.706   0.506   0.470   0.494   0.600   0.547   086   C   046    12-5    16-5   NCAC     Wittenberg
GL   09   0.737   0.442   0.500   0.461   0.599   0.530   089   C   049    14-5    14-6   PrAC     Bethany

MW   01   0.882   0.607   0.550   0.588   0.735   0.662   004   A   C      15-2    18-2   UAA    Washington U.
MW   02   0.800   0.609   0.543   0.587   0.693   0.640   013   A   C      12-3    16-5   CCIW     Carthage
MW   03   0.895   0.445   0.516   0.468   0.682   0.575   018   A   C      17-2    18-2   MWC    St. Norbert
MW   04   0.800   0.572   0.540   0.562   0.681   0.621   019   C   005    16-4    17-4   CCIW     Illinois Wesleyan
MW   05   0.889   0.432   0.501   0.455   0.672   0.563   026   A   C      16-2    18-2   HCAC     Anderson
MW   06   0.867   0.395   0.489   0.426   0.647   0.537   044   A   C      13-2    16-5   SLIAC    Westminster (Mo.)
MW   07   0.762   0.534   0.449   0.506   0.634   0.570   052   C   017    16-5    17-5   HCAC     Defiance
MW   08   0.700   0.536   0.532   0.535   0.618   0.576   068   C   031    14-6    14-7   CCIW     Augustana
MW   09   0.650   0.568   0.537   0.557   0.604   0.581   082   C   043    13-7    14-7   CCIW     Wheaton (Ill.)
MW   10   0.722   0.441   0.508   0.463   0.593   0.528   097   C   057    13-5    14-5   MWC    Ripon
MW   11   0.647   0.453   0.477   0.461   0.554   0.508   122   C   080    11-6    13-8   HCAC     Manchester

W   001   0.850   0.603   0.549   0.585   0.718   0.651   007   A   C      17-3    18-3   WIAC     UW-Stevens Point
W   002   0.889   0.528   0.545   0.534   0.711   0.622   009   A   C      16-2    19-2   MIAC     St. Thomas
W   003   0.895   0.508   0.537   0.517   0.706   0.612   010   A   C      17-2    19-2   NWC    Whitworth
W   004   0.810   0.620   0.548   0.596   0.703   0.650   011   C   003    17-4    17-4   WIAC     UW-Whitewater
W   005   0.941   0.415   0.515   0.448   0.695   0.571   012   B   001    16-1    20-2   IND    Chapman
W   006   0.889   0.472   0.518   0.487   0.688   0.588   015   A   C      16-2    18-4   IIAC     Central
W   007   0.800   0.518   0.494   0.510   0.655   0.582   035   A   C      12-3    16-4   SCIAC    Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
W   008   0.700   0.545   0.529   0.540   0.620   0.580   066   C   029    14-6    14-6   MIAC     Augsburg
W   009   0.750   0.486   0.480   0.484   0.617   0.551   070   C   032    9-3    14-6   SCIAC    Occidental
W   010   0.650   0.585   0.556   0.576   0.613   0.594   072   C   034    13-7    14-8   WIAC     UW-La Crosse
W   011   0.682   0.532   0.529   0.531   0.607   0.569   077   C   039    15-7    15-7   MIAC     Hamline
W   012   0.684   0.524   0.536   0.528   0.606   0.567   079   C   040    13-6    13-8   MIAC     Gustavus Adolphus

Pool:   A    Top ranked team in Pool A eligible conference
    B    Pool B eligible team
    C    At large candidate
    N/A   Not eligible for postseason participation

B or C #      Rank in Pool (C or B)

A Status:      C    Pool A candidate, would rank within top 19 of Pool C
       C-2    2nd tier Pool A candidate, would rank 20-29 of Pool C
       Blank   Ranks outside of the top 29 of Pool C

RPI50:   50% WP and 50% SOS
RPI:    25% WP and 75% SOS

Updated:      2/7/2010

Tournament "Locks":         Pool A/C:   2, (57 remain)
                Williams
                William Patterson
          Pool B:    1, (1 remain)
                Chapman

Ralph Turner · February 07, 2010, 11:11:57 PM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 07, 2010, 10:31:13 PM
Here we go for this week. Through games reported at 10:00 pm eastern Sunday 2/7/2010. As always, let me know if you see an error.

REG   #   WP    OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI50   RPI     NAT   Pool       REG    OVR   CONF     Team

NE   01   1.000   0.485   0.539   0.503   0.751   0.627   001   A   C      19-0    21-1   NESCAC   Williams
NE   02   0.947   0.487   0.524   0.499   0.723   0.611   005   A   C      18-1    19-2   NEWMAC   MIT
NE   03   0.882   0.557   0.511   0.542   0.712   0.627   008   C   002    15-2    19-2   NESCAC   Middlebury
NE   04   0.824   0.533   0.546   0.537   0.680   0.609   020   C   006    14-3    16-4   NESCAC   Colby
NE   05   0.850   0.491   0.511   0.498   0.674   0.586   024   A   C      17-3    17-4   GNAC     Albertus Magnus
NE   06   0.824   0.509   0.528   0.516   0.670   0.593   029   A   C      14-3    15-5   MASCAC   Bridgewater State
NE   07   0.789   0.520   0.569   0.536   0.663   0.600   033   C   008    15-4    15-4   UAA    Brandeis
NE   08   0.842   0.462   0.501   0.475   0.659   0.567   034   A   C      16-3    17-3   CCC    Gordon
NE   09   0.789   0.486   0.520   0.497   0.643   0.570   045   A   C      15-4    16-4   LEC    Western Connecticut
NE   10   0.714   0.565   0.519   0.550   0.632   0.591   055   C   019    15-6    15-6   LEC    Mass-Dartmouth
NE   11   0.737   0.533   0.509   0.525   0.631   0.578   056   C   020    14-5    15-5   NEWMAC   Worcester Polytech
NE   12   0.750   0.495   0.520   0.503   0.627   0.565   059   C   023    15-5    16-5   GNAC     St. Josephs (Maine)
NE   13   0.684   0.566   0.485   0.539   0.612   0.576   074   C   036    13-6    14-7   GNAC     Emerson
NE   14   0.722   0.476   0.519   0.490   0.606   0.548   078   A        13-5    14-5   NAC    Thomas

E   001   0.905   0.459   0.502   0.473   0.689   0.581   014   A   C      19-2    20-2   AMCC     Medaille
E   002   0.810   0.523   0.549   0.532   0.671   0.601   028   A   C      17-4    18-4   E8     St. John Fisher
E   003   0.800   0.539   0.528   0.536   0.668   0.602   030   C   007    16-4    16-4   E8     Stevens
E   004   0.750   0.532   0.493   0.519   0.635   0.577   051   A   C      15-5    16-5   SUNYAC   Oneonta State
E   005   0.700   0.533   0.544   0.537   0.618   0.578   067   C   030    14-6    15-7   E8     Nazareth
E   006   0.684   0.531   0.557   0.540   0.612   0.576   073   C   035    13-6    14-6   UAA    New York University
E   007   0.750   0.436   0.491   0.454   0.602   0.528   084   A        12-4    16-4   NEAC     SUNYIT
E   008   0.667   0.549   0.509   0.536   0.601   0.568   085   C   045    12-6    14-7   SUNYAC   Brockport State
E   009   0.647   0.552   0.523   0.542   0.595   0.568   094   C   054    11-6    14-7   E8     Ithaca

A   001   0.955   0.521   0.524   0.522   0.738   0.630   002   A   C      21-1    21-1   NJAC     William Paterson
A   002   0.810   0.552   0.513   0.539   0.674   0.607   023   A   C      17-4    18-4   LAND     Merchant Marine
A   003   0.762   0.532   0.535   0.533   0.647   0.590   043   C   013    16-5    16-6   NJAC     Ramapo
A   004   0.700   0.582   0.533   0.566   0.633   0.599   053   C   018    14-6    15-6   NJAC     Richard Stockton
A   005   0.750   0.530   0.486   0.515   0.633   0.574   054   A   C      15-5    15-5   SKY    SUNY-Old Westbury
A   006   0.789   0.445   0.504   0.464   0.627   0.546   058   C   022    15-4    15-4   SKY    SUNY-Maritime
A   007   0.722   0.524   0.522   0.523   0.623   0.573   064   C   027    13-5    17-6   NJAC     Rutgers-Newark
A   008   0.727   0.513   0.496   0.507   0.617   0.562   069   A        16-6    17-6   CUNYAC   Baruch

MA   01   0.789   0.598   0.538   0.578   0.684   0.631   017   A   C      15-4    16-4   MACC     Albright
MA   02   0.900   0.423   0.492   0.446   0.673   0.559   025   A   C      18-2    18-2   CSAC     Cabrini
MA   03   0.833   0.505   0.516   0.509   0.671   0.590   027   A   C      15-3    17-3   CAC    St. Marys (Md.)
MA   04   0.850   0.481   0.494   0.486   0.668   0.577   031   A   C      17-3    17-3   CC     Franklin and Marshall
MA   05   0.778   0.544   0.505   0.531   0.654   0.593   036   C   009    14-4    16-4   CAC    York (Pa.)
MA   06   0.778   0.527   0.533   0.529   0.653   0.591   037   C   010    14-4    17-4   MACC     Lycoming
MA   07   0.733   0.592   0.537   0.573   0.653   0.613   039   C   011    11-4    12-7   MACC     Messiah
MA   08   0.789   0.530   0.487   0.515   0.652   0.584   041   A   C      15-4    16-5   MACF     DeSales
MA   09   0.750   0.559   0.539   0.552   0.651   0.602   042   C   012    12-4    ---   MACC     Alvernia
MA   10   0.700   0.612   0.502   0.576   0.638   0.607   048   C   015    14-6    14-6   MACC     Elizabethtown
MA   11   0.778   0.481   0.522   0.495   0.636   0.566   049   C   016    14-4    15-5   LAND     Catholic
MA   12   0.733   0.534   0.490   0.519   0.626   0.573   060   C   024    11-4    13-6   CAC    Wesley

S   001   0.950   0.520   0.539   0.526   0.738   0.632   003   A   C      19-1    19-1   ODAC     Guilford
S   002   0.889   0.565   0.515   0.548   0.719   0.633   006   C   001    16-2    18-2   ODAC     Virginia Wesleyan
S   003   0.857   0.507   0.522   0.512   0.685   0.599   016   C   004    12-2    16-3   ODAC     Eastern Mennonite
S   004   0.833   0.504   0.493   0.500   0.667   0.583   032   A   C      15-3    17-4   ASC    Texas-Dallas
S   005   0.800   0.504   0.512   0.507   0.653   0.580   038   B   002    12-3    17-4   GSAC     Maryville (Tenn.)
S   006   0.824   0.468   0.512   0.483   0.653   0.568   040   N/A        14-3    18-3   SCAC     Birmingham-Southern
S   007   0.762   0.536   0.499   0.523   0.643   0.583   046   A   C      16-5    16-5   SCAC     Austin
S   008   0.750   0.505   0.490   0.500   0.625   0.562   062   C   025    12-4    16-4   ASC    Mississippi College
S   009   0.714   0.541   0.524   0.535   0.625   0.580   063   C   026    10-4    16-4   ODAC     Randolph-Macon
S   010   0.750   0.490   0.498   0.493   0.621   0.557   065   C   028    15-5    15-6   ASC    Mary Hardin-Baylor
S   011   0.750   0.470   0.510   0.483   0.617   0.550   071   C   033    15-5    16-6   SCAC     Southwestern

GL   01   0.850   0.501   0.508   0.504   0.677   0.590   021   A   C      17-3    17-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   02   0.833   0.522   0.506   0.516   0.675   0.596   022   A   C      10-2    15-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   03   0.750   0.547   0.492   0.529   0.639   0.584   047   C   014    9-3    13-8   MIAA     Calvin
GL   04   0.722   0.570   0.510   0.550   0.636   0.593   050   A   C      13-5    15-5   OAC    John Carroll
GL   05   0.737   0.520   0.528   0.523   0.630   0.576   057   C   021    14-5    15-6   OAC    Wilmington
GL   06   0.762   0.480   0.506   0.489   0.625   0.557   061   A   C-2    16-5    16-5   PrAC     Thomas More
GL   07   0.722   0.495   0.492   0.494   0.608   0.551   075   C   037    13-5    13-6   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   08   0.706   0.506   0.470   0.494   0.600   0.547   086   C   046    12-5    16-5   NCAC     Wittenberg
GL   09   0.737   0.442   0.500   0.461   0.599   0.530   089   C   049    14-5    14-6   PrAC     Bethany

MW   01   0.882   0.607   0.550   0.588   0.735   0.662   004   A   C      15-2    18-2   UAA    Washington U.
MW   02   0.800   0.609   0.543   0.587   0.693   0.640   013   A   C      12-3    16-5   CCIW     Carthage
MW   03   0.895   0.445   0.516   0.468   0.682   0.575   018   A   C      17-2    18-2   MWC    St. Norbert
MW   04   0.800   0.572   0.540   0.562   0.681   0.621   019   C   005    16-4    17-4   CCIW     Illinois Wesleyan
MW   05   0.889   0.432   0.501   0.455   0.672   0.563   026   A   C      16-2    18-2   HCAC     Anderson
MW   06   0.867   0.395   0.489   0.426   0.647   0.537   044   A   C      13-2    16-5   SLIAC    Westminster (Mo.)
MW   07   0.762   0.534   0.449   0.506   0.634   0.570   052   C   017    16-5    17-5   HCAC     Defiance
MW   08   0.700   0.536   0.532   0.535   0.618   0.576   068   C   031    14-6    14-7   CCIW     Augustana
MW   09   0.650   0.568   0.537   0.557   0.604   0.581   082   C   043    13-7    14-7   CCIW     Wheaton (Ill.)
MW   10   0.722   0.441   0.508   0.463   0.593   0.528   097   C   057    13-5    14-5   MWC    Ripon
MW   11   0.647   0.453   0.477   0.461   0.554   0.508   122   C   080    11-6    13-8   HCAC     Manchester

W   001   0.850   0.603   0.549   0.585   0.718   0.651   007   A   C      17-3    18-3   WIAC     UW-Stevens Point
W   002   0.889   0.528   0.545   0.534   0.711   0.622   009   A   C      16-2    19-2   MIAC     St. Thomas
W   003   0.895   0.508   0.537   0.517   0.706   0.612   010   A   C      17-2    19-2   NWC    Whitworth
W   004   0.810   0.620   0.548   0.596   0.703   0.650   011   C   003    17-4    17-4   WIAC     UW-Whitewater
W   005   0.941   0.415   0.515   0.448   0.695   0.571   012   B   001    16-1    20-2   IND    Chapman
W   006   0.889   0.472   0.518   0.487   0.688   0.588   015   A   C      16-2    18-4   IIAC     Central
W   007   0.800   0.518   0.494   0.510   0.655   0.582   035   A   C      12-3    16-4   SCIAC    Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
W   008   0.700   0.545   0.529   0.540   0.620   0.580   066   C   029    14-6    14-6   MIAC     Augsburg
W   009   0.750   0.486   0.480   0.484   0.617   0.551   070   C   032    9-3    14-6   SCIAC    Occidental
W   010   0.650   0.585   0.556   0.576   0.613   0.594   072   C   034    13-7    14-8   WIAC     UW-La Crosse
W   011   0.682   0.532   0.529   0.531   0.607   0.569   077   C   039    15-7    15-7   MIAC     Hamline
W   012   0.684   0.524   0.536   0.528   0.606   0.567   079   C   040    13-6    13-8   MIAC     Gustavus Adolphus

      Pool:   A   Top ranked team in Pool A eligible conference
         B   Pool B eligible team
         C   At large candidate
         N/A   Not eligible for postseason participation

      B or C #      Rank in Pool (C or B)

      A Status:   C   Pool A candidate, would rank within top 19 of Pool C
         C-2   2nd tier Pool A candidate, would rank 20-29 of Pool C
         Blank   Ranks outside of the top 29 of Pool C

      RPI50:   50% WP and 50% SOS
      RPI:   25% WP and 75% SOS

      Updated:   2/7/2010

Conferences that are not represented in the table.

East -- Liberty League
South -- USA South AC
Midwest -- NATHC

+1! Knightslappy!

pineconefan · February 08, 2010, 12:52:18 AM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 07, 2010, 11:11:57 PM
Conferences that are not represented in the table.

East -- Liberty League
South -- USA South AC
Midwest -- NATHC

+1! Knightslappy!

Also the UMAC in the west. But perhaps they don't count because they don't have the AQ yet?

Ralph Turner · February 08, 2010, 07:13:47 AM

Quote from: pineconefan on February 08, 2010, 12:52:18 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 07, 2010, 11:11:57 PM
Conferences that are not represented in the table.

East -- Liberty League
South -- USA South AC
Midwest -- NATHC

+1! Knightslappy!

Also the UMAC in the west. But perhaps they don't count because they don't have the AQ yet?

Yes, and the NECC in the Northeast does not have a Pool A bid yet, either.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 08, 2010, 10:45:56 AM

Probably don't have to worry about the USAC... as they will only get the AQ in that conference. Won't affect Pool C.

hopefan · February 08, 2010, 12:11:08 PM

I haven't been following very closely - but - I notice Birmingham Southern rated in the south - are they eligible for a tourney slot, or are they still provisional - If provisional, should they be included? I notice they didn't get mentioned in first regional ratings....

Knightslappy, thanks so much for posting this each week....

KnightSlappy · February 08, 2010, 12:15:13 PM

Quote from: hopefan on February 08, 2010, 12:11:08 PM
I haven't been following very closely - but - I notice Birmingham Southern rated in the south - are they eligible for a tourney slot, or are they still provisional - If provisional, should they be included? I notice they didn't get mentioned in first regional ratings....

Knightslappy, thanks so much for posting this each week....

They are ineligible to be ranked by the NCAA and they cannot receive a tournament bid. I include them becuase I think it may be interesting to some to see where they might have ranked.

I note the non-eligible teams with an "N/A" in the pool column.

Ralph Turner · February 08, 2010, 12:27:32 PM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 08, 2010, 12:15:13 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 08, 2010, 12:11:08 PM
I haven't been following very closely - but - I notice Birmingham Southern rated in the south - are they eligible for a tourney slot, or are they still provisional - If provisional, should they be included? I notice they didn't get mentioned in first regional ratings....

Knightslappy, thanks so much for posting this each week....

They are ineligible to be ranked by the NCAA and they cannot receive a tournament bid. I include them becuase I think it may be interesting to some to see where they might have ranked.

I note the non-eligible teams with an "N/A" in the pool column.

and games against BSC count as in-region contests.

swingO · February 09, 2010, 12:44:43 AM

Perhaps I don't understand all of Knight Slappy's criteria, but how can Brooklyn be omitted from the Atlantic when they beat Old Westbury and Baruch head to head,have a better conference record than most of those teams(10-1,tied 1st CUNYAC), have a better strength of schedule than SUNY MARITIME, and have won 12 games in a row to be 17-5. Baruch hasn't beaten anyone good since December. Does head to head play mean nothing?

Pat Coleman · February 09, 2010, 12:49:30 AM

Not so much to an RPI-type system. That's why humans do the regional rankings, to help take those things into account.

KnightSlappy · February 09, 2010, 10:21:41 AM

Quote from: swingO on February 09, 2010, 12:44:43 AM
Perhaps I don't understand all of Knight Slappy's criteria, but how can Brooklyn be omitted from the Atlantic when they beat Old Westbury and Baruch head to head,have a better conference record than most of those teams(10-1,tied 1st CUNYAC), have a better strength of schedule than SUNY MARITIME, and have won 12 games in a row to be 17-5. Baruch hasn't beaten anyone good since December. Does head to head play mean nothing?

Coach, my rankings sort teams based on "equal" weighting of winning percentage and strength of schedule. You may feel free to adjust accoridingly based on head to head, and common opponents and results vs. regionally ranked teams.

You have to go to the fifth decimal place to find any difference in SOS between Brooklyn and SUNY-Maritime (and we're talking an 18th percentile SOS here...). Baruch and Old Westbury both have MUCH better numerical SOS numbers (and similar winning percentages). That's why my rankings end up the way they do (I have Brooklyn 9th in the region by the way).

Again, I don't evaluate the validity of each SOS number like the NCAA might, nor do I include head to head adjustments and the like; it would simply take more time than I am willig to put into it.

My hope is that the data I put out would allow for others to get a feel for how the regions may look, and to foster discussions, like this one, about how the regional committees may rank teams and who may get selected in Pool C once all of the criteria is considered.

scottiedoug · February 09, 2010, 11:42:56 AM

Knightslappy: Thanks for all the work. A question:

You have Chapman #1 and Maryville (TN) # 2 in Pool B; here are the comparisons:

OWP OOWP SOS RPI150 RPI

C. .415 .515 .448 .695 .571
MC. .504 .512 .507 .653 .580

How did you decide which was ahead of which?

KnightSlappy · February 09, 2010, 11:55:32 AM

Quote from: scottiedoug on February 09, 2010, 11:42:56 AM
Knightslappy: Thanks for all the work. A question:

You have Chapman #1 and Maryville (TN) # 2 in Pool B; here are the comparisons:

OWP OOWP SOS RPI150 RPI

C. .415 .515 .448 .695 .571
MC. .504 .512 .507 .653 .580

How did you decide which was ahead of which?

Right now, my rankings are entirely based on the RPI50 category (to rank regions, conferences, and pools). This takes equal weighting from WP and SOS and calculates a combined RPI-like value. I prefer the standard RPI myself, but the 50-50 weighting seemed to match the NCAA's first rankings better.