Pool C

KnightSlappy · February 11, 2010, 11:28:08 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 11, 2010, 11:09:14 AM
No, you didn't, but you definitely buried them.

I suspect this is something that every committee deals with differently. But if you do get to the secondary criteria, that means the primary criteria are considered even. I believe the wording is "if the primary criteria do not result in a decision" being reached.

You must forgive my slappiness.

Thanks, for the explanation. So it was deemed too close to call in the primary, but Wilmington was awarded the secondary criteria. I guess I can accept that.

ScotsFan · February 11, 2010, 12:53:27 PM

Quote from: ChicagoHopeNut on February 11, 2010, 11:16:46 AM
I have to put forward my general theory that subconsciously the committee sees Wilmington at 14-5 in region and Calvin at 9-3 and that large discrepancy in games played in region affects what happens.

It's a close case and certainly an argument could be made for both teams to be #5.

I have no idea what goes on behind the closed doors of the rankings committee, but I can't help but agree with hopenut and think this has to weigh heavily, at least subconsiously on the committee members. Look at Wooster and Hope atop the rankings. The same argument can be made there. An in-region record of 17-3 looks a lot more convincing than a record of 10-2.

KnightSlappy · February 12, 2010, 01:35:14 PM

Regional data through games of Thursday 2/11/2010 (11 pm eastern). Only in-region results are used in data calculation. Teams sorted based on 50-50 weighting of winning percentage and strength of schedule.

REG   #   WP    OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI50   RPI     NAT   Pool       REG    OVR   CONF     Team

NE   01   1.000   0.488   0.541   0.506   0.753   0.629   001   A   C      19-0    21-1   NESCAC   Williams
NE   02   0.950   0.493   0.524   0.503   0.727   0.615   004   A   C      19-1    20-2   NEWMAC   MIT
NE   03   0.882   0.563   0.513   0.546   0.714   0.630   008   C   001    15-2    19-2   NESCAC   Middlebury
NE   04   0.833   0.540   0.545   0.542   0.687   0.615   018   C   005    15-3    17-4   NESCAC   Colby
NE   05   0.800   0.525   0.564   0.538   0.669   0.604   029   C   007    16-4    16-4   UAA    Brandeis
NE   06   0.842   0.462   0.498   0.474   0.658   0.566   035   A   C      16-3    18-4   CCC    Gordon
NE   07   0.810   0.497   0.506   0.500   0.655   0.578   036   A   C      17-4    17-5   GNAC     Albertus Magnus
NE   08   0.778   0.514   0.527   0.518   0.648   0.583   043   A   C      14-4    15-6   MASCAC   Bridgewater State
NE   09   0.750   0.528   0.512   0.522   0.636   0.579   051   C   018    15-5    16-5   NEWMAC   Worcester Polytech
NE   10   0.762   0.499   0.518   0.505   0.633   0.569   053   C   020    16-5    17-5   GNAC     St. Josephs (Maine)
NE   11   0.727   0.545   0.523   0.538   0.632   0.585   055   A   C-2    16-6    16-6   LEC    Mass-Dartmouth
NE   12   0.750   0.498   0.517   0.504   0.627   0.566   060   C   024    15-5    16-5   LEC    Western Connecticut
NE   13   0.700   0.560   0.489   0.536   0.618   0.577   067   C   029    14-6    15-7   GNAC     Emerson
NE   14   0.682   0.547   0.514   0.536   0.609   0.573   075   C   037    15-7    15-7   LEC    Rhode Island College

E   001   0.905   0.466   0.497   0.476   0.691   0.583   016   A   C      19-2    20-2   AMCC     Medaille
E   002   0.818   0.522   0.547   0.530   0.674   0.602   025   A   C      18-4    19-4   E8     St. John Fisher
E   003   0.810   0.518   0.530   0.522   0.666   0.594   031   C   009    17-4    17-4   E8     Stevens
E   004   0.750   0.528   0.492   0.516   0.633   0.575   054   A   C-2    15-5    16-5   SUNYAC   Oneonta State
E   005   0.684   0.531   0.558   0.540   0.612   0.576   074   C   036    13-6    14-6   UAA    New York University
E   006   0.750   0.437   0.487   0.454   0.602   0.528   081   A        12-4    17-4   NEAC     SUNYIT
E   007   0.667   0.539   0.529   0.536   0.601   0.568   082   C   043    12-6    15-7   E8     Ithaca
E   008   0.667   0.547   0.508   0.534   0.600   0.567   083   C   044    12-6    14-7   SUNYAC   Brockport State
E   009   0.667   0.528   0.544   0.533   0.600   0.567   084   C   045    14-7    15-8   E8     Nazareth

A   001   0.955   0.526   0.523   0.525   0.740   0.632   002   A   C      21-1    21-1   NJAC     William Paterson
A   002   0.810   0.552   0.511   0.538   0.674   0.606   026   A   C      17-4    18-4   LAND     Merchant Marine
A   003   0.773   0.510   0.536   0.519   0.646   0.582   046   C   015    17-5    17-6   NJAC     Ramapo
A   004   0.714   0.570   0.534   0.558   0.636   0.597   052   C   019    15-6    16-6   NJAC     Richard Stockton
A   005   0.800   0.440   0.500   0.460   0.630   0.545   058   A   C-2    16-4    17-4   SKY    SUNY-Maritime
A   006   0.727   0.551   0.484   0.529   0.628   0.579   059   C   023    16-6    16-6   SKY    SUNY-Old Westbury
A   007   0.722   0.525   0.523   0.524   0.623   0.574   064   C   027    13-5    17-6   NJAC     Rutgers-Newark
A   008   0.739   0.496   0.500   0.498   0.618   0.558   066   A   C-2    17-6    18-6   CUNYAC   Baruch

MA   01   0.905   0.441   0.490   0.458   0.681   0.569   020   A   C      19-2    19-2   CSAC     Cabrini
MA   02   0.800   0.568   0.542   0.559   0.679   0.619   022   A   C      16-4    17-4   MACC     Albright
MA   03   0.864   0.495   0.473   0.488   0.676   0.582   024   A   C      19-3    19-3   CC     Franklin and Marshall
MA   04   0.833   0.501   0.516   0.506   0.670   0.588   028   A   C      15-3    17-3   CAC    St. Marys (Md.)
MA   05   0.750   0.603   0.542   0.583   0.666   0.625   030   C   008    12-4    13-7   MACC     Messiah
MA   06   0.789   0.544   0.508   0.532   0.661   0.596   033   C   010    15-4    17-4   CAC    York (Pa.)
MA   07   0.800   0.533   0.488   0.518   0.659   0.588   034   A   C      16-4    17-5   MACF     DeSales
MA   08   0.778   0.528   0.534   0.530   0.654   0.592   038   C   012    14-4    17-4   MACC     Lycoming
MA   09   0.722   0.584   0.543   0.571   0.646   0.609   044   C   013    13-5    ---   MACC     Alvernia
MA   10   0.778   0.488   0.523   0.500   0.639   0.569   049   C   016    14-4    15-5   LAND     Catholic
MA   11   0.700   0.612   0.503   0.576   0.638   0.607   050   C   017    14-6    14-6   MACC     Elizabethtown
MA   12   0.733   0.526   0.485   0.512   0.623   0.567   065   C   028    11-4    13-6   CAC    Wesley

S   001   0.905   0.530   0.533   0.531   0.718   0.624   006   A   C      19-2    19-2   ODAC     Guilford
S   002   0.900   0.525   0.525   0.525   0.712   0.619   009   C   002    18-2    20-2   ODAC     Virginia Wesleyan
S   003   0.867   0.539   0.519   0.532   0.699   0.616   012   C   004    13-2    17-3   ODAC     Eastern Mennonite
S   004   0.833   0.501   0.491   0.498   0.666   0.582   032   A   C      15-3    18-4   ASC    Texas-Dallas
S   005   0.824   0.465   0.511   0.481   0.652   0.566   039   N/A        14-3    18-3   SCAC     Birmingham-Southern
S   006   0.800   0.501   0.510   0.504   0.652   0.578   040   B   002    12-3    18-4   GSAC     Maryville (Tenn.)
S   007   0.750   0.547   0.530   0.542   0.646   0.594   045   C   014    12-4    18-4   ODAC     Randolph-Macon
S   008   0.762   0.531   0.498   0.520   0.641   0.581   047   A   C      16-5    16-5   SCAC     Austin
S   009   0.765   0.502   0.493   0.499   0.632   0.565   056   C   021    13-4    17-4   ASC    Mississippi College
S   010   0.762   0.481   0.497   0.486   0.624   0.555   062   C   026    16-5    16-6   ASC    Mary Hardin-Baylor
S   011   0.750   0.472   0.506   0.483   0.617   0.550   070   C   032    15-5    16-6   SCAC     Southwestern

GL   01   0.857   0.514   0.501   0.510   0.684   0.597   019   A   C      18-3    18-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   02   0.846   0.510   0.508   0.509   0.678   0.594   023   A   C      11-2    16-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   03   0.769   0.567   0.484   0.539   0.654   0.597   037   C   011    10-3    14-8   MIAA     Calvin
GL   04   0.737   0.555   0.513   0.541   0.639   0.590   048   A   C      14-5    16-5   OAC    John Carroll
GL   05   0.773   0.459   0.508   0.475   0.624   0.549   063   A   C-2    17-5    17-5   PrAC     Thomas More
GL   06   0.737   0.504   0.490   0.499   0.618   0.558   068   C   030    14-5    14-6   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   07   0.700   0.527   0.526   0.527   0.613   0.570   073   C   035    14-6    15-7   OAC    Wilmington
GL   08   0.722   0.495   0.472   0.488   0.605   0.546   079   C   041    13-5    17-5   NCAC     Wittenberg
GL   09   0.700   0.464   0.496   0.474   0.587   0.531   097   C   056    14-6    14-7   NCAC     Wabash

MW   01   0.882   0.605   0.551   0.587   0.735   0.661   003   A   C      15-2    18-2   UAA    Washington U.
MW   02   0.813   0.586   0.549   0.574   0.693   0.633   014   A   C      13-3    17-5   CCIW     Carthage
MW   03   0.900   0.461   0.513   0.478   0.689   0.584   017   A   C      18-2    19-2   MWC    St. Norbert
MW   04   0.810   0.556   0.536   0.549   0.679   0.614   021   C   006    17-4    18-4   CCIW     Illinois Wesleyan
MW   05   0.900   0.416   0.504   0.446   0.673   0.559   027   A   C      18-2    20-2   HCAC     Anderson
MW   06   0.875   0.397   0.491   0.428   0.652   0.540   041   A   C      14-2    17-5   SLIAC    Westminster (Mo.)
MW   07   0.762   0.527   0.452   0.502   0.632   0.567   057   C   022    16-5    17-5   HCAC     Defiance
MW   08   0.667   0.574   0.534   0.560   0.614   0.587   072   C   034    14-7    15-7   CCIW     Wheaton (Ill.)
MW   09   0.667   0.543   0.528   0.538   0.602   0.570   080   C   042    14-7    14-8   CCIW     Augustana
MW   10   0.684   0.471   0.499   0.481   0.582   0.532   102   C   061    13-6    14-6   MWC    Ripon
MW   11   0.667   0.431   0.486   0.449   0.558   0.504   121   C   079    12-6    14-8   HCAC     Manchester

W   001   0.857   0.603   0.550   0.585   0.721   0.653   005   A   C      18-3    19-3   WIAC     UW-Stevens Point
W   002   0.895   0.533   0.538   0.535   0.715   0.625   007   A   C      17-2    20-2   MIAC     St. Thomas
W   003   0.818   0.621   0.549   0.597   0.708   0.652   010   C   003    18-4    18-4   WIAC     UW-Whitewater
W   004   0.895   0.510   0.534   0.518   0.706   0.612   011   A   C      17-2    19-2   NWC    Whitworth
W   005   0.941   0.420   0.516   0.452   0.697   0.574   013   B   001    16-1    20-2   IND    Chapman
W   006   0.895   0.475   0.515   0.489   0.692   0.590   015   A   C      17-2    19-4   IIAC     Central
W   007   0.813   0.483   0.498   0.488   0.650   0.569   042   A   C      13-3    17-4   SCIAC    Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
W   008   0.714   0.546   0.526   0.539   0.627   0.583   061   C   025    15-6    15-6   MIAC     Augsburg
W   009   0.667   0.572   0.560   0.568   0.617   0.593   069   C   031    14-7    15-8   WIAC     UW-La Crosse
W   010   0.684   0.489   0.511   0.497   0.590   0.544   092   C   051    13-6    14-8   IIAC     Cornell
W   011   0.588   0.613   0.551   0.592   0.590   0.591   094   C   053    10-7    13-9   WIAC     UW-Stout
W   012   0.652   0.524   0.528   0.525   0.589   0.557   095   C   054    15-8    15-8   MIAC     Hamline

Pool:   A     Top ranked team in Pool A eligible conference
   B     Pool B eligible team
   C     At large candidate
   N/A   Not eligible for postseason participation

B or C #      Rank in Pool (C or B)

A Status:      C     Pool A candidate, would rank within top 19 of Pool C
      C-2     2nd tier Pool A candidate, would rank 20-29 of Pool C
      Blank   Ranks outside of the top 29 of Pool C

RPI50:   50% WP and 50% SOS
RPI:     25% WP and 75% SOS

Updated:      2/12/2010

Tournament "Locks":         Pool A/C:   2, (57 remain)
             Williams
             William Patterson
         Pool B:     1, (1 remain)
             Chapman

I've added tournamnet "locks" to the bottom. They're teams that should be in even if they lose out. I've only found three at this point.

BJ - DSU SID · February 12, 2010, 07:58:10 PM

Great stuff Knight Slappy.

Appreciate the hard work.

KnightSlappy · February 15, 2010, 10:16:06 PM

Regional data through games of Sunday 2/14/2010. Only in-region results are used in data calculation. Teams sorted based on 50-50 weighting of winning percentage and strength of schedule.

REG   #   WP    OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI50   RPI     NAT   Pool       REG    OVR   CONF     Team

NE   01   1.000   0.497   0.538   0.511   0.755   0.633   001   A   C      21-0    23-1   NESCAC   Williams
NE   02   0.952   0.479   0.527   0.495   0.724   0.610   004   A   C      20-1    21-2   NEWMAC   MIT
NE   03   0.895   0.568   0.512   0.549   0.722   0.636   005   C   001    17-2    21-2   NESCAC   Middlebury
NE   04   0.800   0.524   0.538   0.529   0.664   0.597   028   C   005    16-4    18-5   NESCAC   Colby
NE   05   0.773   0.544   0.565   0.551   0.662   0.606   031   C   007    17-5    17-5   UAA    Brandeis
NE   06   0.842   0.467   0.490   0.475   0.658   0.567   035   A   C      16-3    19-4   CCC    Gordon
NE   07   0.789   0.514   0.525   0.518   0.654   0.586   039   A   C      15-4    16-6   MASCAC   Bridgewater State
NE   08   0.762   0.516   0.515   0.516   0.639   0.578   046   C   015    16-5    17-5   NEWMAC   Worcester Polytech
NE   09   0.773   0.486   0.506   0.492   0.633   0.563   050   A   C      17-5    17-6   GNAC     Albertus Magnus
NE   10   0.696   0.560   0.515   0.545   0.620   0.582   060   A   C-2    16-7    16-7   LEC    Eastern Connecticut
NE   11   0.714   0.539   0.495   0.525   0.619   0.572   061   C   024    15-6    16-7   GNAC     Emerson
NE   12   0.696   0.545   0.522   0.537   0.616   0.577   065   C   028    16-7    16-7   LEC    Mass-Dartmouth
NE   13   0.727   0.487   0.517   0.497   0.612   0.555   070   C   033    16-6    17-6   GNAC     St. Josephs (Maine)
NE   14   0.696   0.524   0.522   0.524   0.610   0.567   077   C   038    16-7    16-7   LEC    Rhode Island College

E   001   0.909   0.475   0.501   0.484   0.697   0.590   015   A   C      20-2    21-2   AMCC     Medaille
E   002   0.818   0.528   0.534   0.530   0.674   0.602   024   A   C      18-4    19-4   E8     St. John Fisher
E   003   0.773   0.516   0.528   0.520   0.646   0.583   043   C   013    17-5    17-5   E8     Stevens
E   004   0.773   0.529   0.492   0.517   0.645   0.581   044   A   C      17-5    18-5   SUNYAC   Oneonta State
E   005   0.700   0.538   0.501   0.525   0.613   0.569   069   C   032    14-6    15-7   SUNYAC   Plattsburgh State
E   006   0.700   0.521   0.527   0.523   0.611   0.567   073   C   036    14-6    17-7   E8     Ithaca
E   007   0.765   0.443   0.483   0.456   0.610   0.533   075   A        13-4    18-4   NEAC     SUNYIT
E   008   0.667   0.549   0.556   0.551   0.609   0.580   078   C   039    14-7    15-7   UAA    New York University
E   009   0.684   0.538   0.510   0.529   0.607   0.568   080   C   041    13-6    15-7   SUNYAC   Brockport State

A   001   0.955   0.535   0.529   0.533   0.744   0.638   003   A   C      21-1    22-1   NJAC     William Paterson
A   002   0.826   0.552   0.508   0.537   0.682   0.610   020   A   C      19-4    20-4   LAND     Merchant Marine
A   003   0.762   0.580   0.532   0.564   0.663   0.613   029   C   006    16-5    17-6   NJAC     Richard Stockton
A   004   0.739   0.548   0.489   0.528   0.634   0.581   048   A   C      17-6    17-6   SKY    SUNY-Old Westbury
A   005   0.737   0.535   0.519   0.530   0.633   0.582   049   C   016    14-5    17-6   NJAC     Rutgers-Newark
A   006   0.727   0.535   0.533   0.534   0.631   0.583   051   C   017    16-6    17-7   NJAC     Ramapo
A   007   0.773   0.461   0.498   0.473   0.623   0.548   058   C   023    17-5    18-5   SKY    St. Josephs (L.I.)
A   008   0.750   0.492   0.500   0.495   0.622   0.559   059   A   C-2    18-6    19-6   CUNYAC   Baruch

MA   01   0.810   0.563   0.539   0.555   0.682   0.618   019   A   C      17-4    18-4   MACC     Albright
MA   02   0.909   0.431   0.495   0.452   0.681   0.567   021   A   C      20-2    20-2   CSAC     Cabrini
MA   03   0.842   0.513   0.514   0.513   0.678   0.595   022   A   C      16-3    18-3   CAC    St. Marys (Md.)
MA   04   0.870   0.490   0.466   0.482   0.676   0.579   023   A   C      20-3    20-3   CC     Franklin and Marshall
MA   05   0.810   0.539   0.489   0.522   0.666   0.594   027   A   C      17-4    18-5   MACF     DeSales
MA   06   0.765   0.563   0.544   0.557   0.661   0.609   033   C   009    13-4    14-7   MACC     Messiah
MA   07   0.765   0.537   0.533   0.536   0.650   0.593   041   C   012    13-4    18-4   MACC     Lycoming
MA   08   0.750   0.542   0.505   0.529   0.640   0.585   045   C   014    15-5    17-5   CAC    York (Pa.)
MA   09   0.737   0.508   0.513   0.510   0.623   0.567   056   C   021    14-5    16-6   LAND     Catholic
MA   10   0.684   0.573   0.541   0.562   0.623   0.593   057   C   022    13-6    ---   MACC     Alvernia
MA   11   0.750   0.483   0.495   0.487   0.618   0.553   063   C   026    12-4    15-6   CAC    Wesley
MA   12   0.667   0.602   0.499   0.568   0.617   0.592   064   C   027    14-7    14-7   MACC     Elizabethtown

S   001   0.909   0.524   0.538   0.529   0.719   0.624   006   A   C      20-2    20-2   ODAC     Guilford
S   002   0.875   0.520   0.531   0.523   0.699   0.611   011   C   003    14-2    18-3   ODAC     Eastern Mennonite
S   003   0.857   0.543   0.526   0.537   0.697   0.617   013   C   004    18-3    20-3   ODAC     Virginia Wesleyan
S   004   0.833   0.503   0.491   0.499   0.666   0.583   026   A   C      15-3    18-4   ASC    Texas-Dallas
S   005   0.813   0.510   0.517   0.512   0.662   0.587   030   B   002    13-3    19-4   GSAC     Maryville (Tenn.)
S   006   0.765   0.568   0.528   0.555   0.660   0.607   034   C   010    13-4    19-4   ODAC     Randolph-Macon
S   007   0.833   0.453   0.514   0.474   0.653   0.563   040   N/A        15-3    19-3   SCAC     Birmingham-Southern
S   008   0.773   0.533   0.499   0.522   0.647   0.584   042   A   C      17-5    18-5   SCAC     Austin
S   009   0.773   0.469   0.496   0.478   0.625   0.552   054   C   019    17-5    17-6   ASC    Mary Hardin-Baylor
S   010   0.722   0.507   0.492   0.502   0.612   0.557   071   C   034    13-5    17-5   ASC    Mississippi College
S   011   0.700   0.495   0.488   0.493   0.596   0.545   087   C   047    14-6    16-7   ASC    McMurry

GL   01   0.857   0.527   0.497   0.517   0.687   0.602   018   A   C      12-2    17-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   02   0.818   0.530   0.496   0.519   0.668   0.594   025   A   C      18-4    18-5   NCAC     Wooster
GL   03   0.786   0.540   0.485   0.522   0.654   0.588   037   C   011    11-3    15-8   MIAA     Calvin
GL   04   0.737   0.547   0.510   0.535   0.636   0.585   047   A   C      14-5    17-5   OAC    John Carroll
GL   05   0.737   0.509   0.467   0.495   0.616   0.556   066   C   029    14-5    18-5   NCAC     Wittenberg
GL   06   0.700   0.523   0.520   0.522   0.611   0.567   074   C   037    14-6    16-7   OAC    Wilmington
GL   07   0.739   0.470   0.503   0.481   0.610   0.546   076   A        17-6    17-6   PrAC     Thomas More
GL   08   0.700   0.511   0.493   0.505   0.603   0.554   082   C   043    14-6    14-7   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   09   0.714   0.466   0.491   0.474   0.594   0.534   088   C   048    15-6    15-7   PrAC     Bethany

MW   01   0.895   0.616   0.548   0.593   0.744   0.669   002   A   C      17-2    20-2   UAA    Washington U.
MW   02   0.824   0.582   0.548   0.571   0.697   0.634   014   A   C      14-3    18-5   CCIW     Carthage
MW   03   0.905   0.460   0.510   0.477   0.691   0.584   017   A   C      19-2    20-2   MWC    St. Norbert
MW   04   0.773   0.556   0.538   0.550   0.661   0.606   032   C   008    17-5    18-5   CCIW     Illinois Wesleyan
MW   05   0.857   0.424   0.502   0.450   0.654   0.552   038   A   C      18-3    20-3   HCAC     Anderson
MW   06   0.824   0.412   0.490   0.438   0.631   0.534   052   A   C      14-3    17-6   SLIAC    Westminster (Mo.)
MW   07   0.762   0.523   0.450   0.498   0.630   0.564   053   C   018    16-5    18-5   HCAC     Defiance
MW   08   0.682   0.585   0.533   0.568   0.625   0.596   055   C   020    15-7    16-7   CCIW     Wheaton (Ill.)
MW   09   0.682   0.529   0.529   0.529   0.605   0.567   081   C   042    15-7    15-8   CCIW     Augustana
MW   10   0.700   0.463   0.500   0.475   0.588   0.532   094   C   054    14-6    15-6   MWC    Ripon
MW   11   0.684   0.428   0.482   0.446   0.565   0.505   117   C   074    13-6    15-8   HCAC     Manchester

W   001   0.864   0.584   0.553   0.574   0.719   0.646   007   A   C      19-3    20-3   WIAC     UW-Stevens Point
W   002   0.900   0.536   0.535   0.536   0.718   0.627   008   A   C      18-2    21-2   MIAC     St. Thomas
W   003   0.826   0.622   0.545   0.596   0.711   0.654   009   C   002    19-4    19-4   WIAC     UW-Whitewater
W   004   0.905   0.497   0.540   0.512   0.708   0.610   010   A   C      19-2    21-2   NWC    Whitworth
W   005   0.944   0.416   0.529   0.454   0.699   0.577   012   B   001    17-1    22-2   IND    Chapman
W   006   0.895   0.486   0.515   0.495   0.695   0.595   016   A   C      17-2    19-4   IIAC     Central
W   007   0.824   0.476   0.501   0.484   0.654   0.569   036   A   C      14-3    18-4   SCIAC    Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
W   008   0.667   0.566   0.557   0.563   0.615   0.589   067   C   030    14-7    15-8   WIAC     UW-La Crosse
W   009   0.682   0.551   0.524   0.542   0.612   0.577   072   C   035    15-7    15-7   MIAC     Augsburg
W   010   0.667   0.517   0.530   0.521   0.594   0.558   089   C   049    14-7    14-9   MIAC     Gustavus Adolphus
W   011   0.714   0.454   0.487   0.465   0.589   0.527   091   C   051    10-4    15-7   SCIAC    Occidental
W   012   0.652   0.526   0.527   0.526   0.589   0.558   092   C   052    15-8    15-8   MIAC     Hamline

Pool:   A     Top ranked team in Pool A eligible conference
   B     Pool B eligible team
   C     At large candidate
   N/A   Not eligible for postseason participation

B or C #      Rank in Pool (C or B)

A Status:      C     Pool A candidate, would rank within top 19 of Pool C
      C-2     2nd tier Pool A candidate, would rank 20-29 of Pool C
      In    Clinched Pool A bid
      Blank   Ranks outside of the top 29 of Pool C

RPI50:   50% WP and 50% SOS
RPI:     25% WP and 75% SOS

Updated:      2/15/2010

Tournament "Locks":         Pool A/C:   3, (56 remain)
             Williams
             William Patterson
                Washington U.
         Pool B:     1, (1 remain)
             Chapman

Greek Tragedy · February 18, 2010, 02:58:32 AM

I'll post the regional rankings stuff later today.

Greek Tragedy · February 18, 2010, 09:24:18 PM

Games through Sun. Feb. 14...results and schedule this week

Men's rankings

Atlantic Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. (1) William Paterson 21-1 22-1 (NJAC) - LOST at Rutgers-Newark; BEAT New Jersey City
2. (2) Merchant Marine 18-4 20-4 (LAND) - at Drew 2/20
3. (4) Rutgers-Newark 13-5 17-6 (NJAC) - BEAT William Paterson; WON at Ramapo; vs. Kean 2/20
4. (3) Ramapo 16-6 17-7 (NJAC) - LOST to Rutgers-Newark
5. (5) Richard Stockton 17-5 17-6 (NJAC) - BEAT Rutgers-Camden; BEAT New Jersey

Previously ranked: York (N.Y.) (CUNYAC)

East Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. (1) St. John Fisher 18-4 19-4 (Empire 8) - WON at Nazareth; vs. Utica 2/19
2. (3) Medaille 20-2 21-2 (AMCC) - LOST to Pitt-Bradford; at Pitt-Greensburg 2/20
3. (4) Oneonta State 17-5 18-5 (SUNYAC) - BEAT Cortland State; at New Paltz State 2/19
4. (2) Stevens 17-5 17-5 (Empire 8) - vs. Ithaca 2/19; vs. Rochester Tech 2/21
5. (5) New York University 14-7 15-7 (UAA) - at Emory 2/19; at Rochester 2/21
6. (NA) Plattsburgh State 13-6 15-7 (SUNYAC) - BEAT Potsdam State; vs. Geneseo State 2/19, vs. Brockport State 2/20

Dropping out: Nazareth (Empire 8)
Previously ranked: Rochester (UAA)

Great Lakes Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. (2) Hope 12-2 17-6 (MIAA) - LOST at Adrian; vs. Trine 2/20
2. (3) John Carroll 15-5 17-5 (OAC) - WON at Heidelberg; vs. Ohio Northern 2/20
3. (1) Wooster 18-4 18-5 (NCAC) - BEAT Ohio Wesleyan; at Earlham 2/20
4. (6) Calvin 11-3 15-8 (MIAA) - WON at Albion; vs. Alma 2/20
5. (NA) Wittenberg 14-5 18-5 (NCAC) - LOST to Wabash; at Oberlin 2/20
6. (4) Thomas More 17-6 17-6 (PrAC) - WON at Thiel; at Vincent 2/20

Dropping out: Wilmington (OAC) Wilmington was #2 in the 1st rankings

Middle Atlantic Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. (1) Albright 17-4 18-4 (MAC-Commonwealth) - BEAT Alvernia; vs. Messiah 2/20
2. (2) Franklin & Marshall 20-3 20-3 (Centennial) - LOST to John Hopkins; vs. Dickinson 2/20
3. (3) Lycoming 14-4 18-4 (MAC-Commonwealth) - WON at Messiah; at Elizabethtown 2/18; vs. Widener 2/20
4. (5) St. Mary's (Md.) 16-3 18-3 (CAC) - BEAT Wesley; WON at Gallaudet; vs. York (Pa.) 2/20; at Mary Washington 2/21
5. (4) Cabrini 20-2 20-2 (CSAC) - WON at Gwynedd-Mercy; vs. Centenary 2/18; at Neumann 2/20
6. (9) DeSales 17-4 18-5 (MAC-Freedom) - WON at Wilkes; vs. FDU-Florham 2/20
7. (7) York (Pa.) 16-5 17-5 (CAC) - at St. Mary's (Md) 2/20; at Gallaudet 2/21
8. (NR) Messiah 13-4 14-7 (MAC-Commonwealth) - LOST to Lycoming; vs. Lebanon Valley 2/18; at Albright 2/20
9. (NR) Catholic 14-5 16-6 (LAND) - LOST to Scranton; at Goucher 2/20

Dropping out: Elizabethtown (MAC-Commonwealth); Alvernia (MAC-Commonwealth)

Midwest Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. (1) Washington U. 17-2 20-2 (UAA) - vs. Case Western Reserve 2/19; vs. Carnegie Mellon 2/21
2. (2) Carthage 14-3 18-5 (CCIW) - BEAT North Park; at Milikin 2/20
3. (5) St. Norbert 19-2 20-2 (MWC) - at Carroll 2/20
4. (6) Wheaton (Ill.) 15-7 16-7 (CCIW) - BEAT Milikin; at Elmhurst 2/20
5. (3) Illinois Wesleyan 17-5 18-5 (CCIW) - WON at Augustana; at North Park 2/20
6. (4) Anderson 18-3 20-3 (HCAC) - BEAT Manchester; at Hanover 2/20
7. (8) Defiance 16-5 18-5 (HCAC) - BEAT Bluffton; at Franklin 2/20
8. (7) Augustana 15-7 15-8 (CCIW) - LOST to Illinois Wesleyan; vs. North Central (Ill) 2/20

Northeast Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. (1) Williams 21-0 23-1 (NESCAC) - vs. Wesleyan 2/20
2. (2) MIT 20-1 21-2 (NEWMAC) - LOST at Wheaton (Mass); at Springfield 2/20
3. (3) Middlebury 17-2 21-2 (NESCAC) - WON at Green Mountain; vs. Trinity (Conn) 2/20
4. (6) Brandeis 17-5 17-5 (UAA) - at Rochester 2/19; at Emory 2/21
5. (5) Colby 16-4 18-5 (NESCAC) - vs. Amherst 2/20
6. (4) Bridgewater State 15-4 16-6 (MASCAC) - LOST at Salem State; vs. Massachusetts College 2/20
7. (NR) Rhode Island College 16-7 16-7 (LEC) - WON at Mass-Dartmouth; vs. Plymouth State 2/20
8. (NR) Eastern Connecticut 16-7 16-7 (LEC) - LOST to Western Connecticut; at Southern Maine 2/20
9. (10) Gordon 18-4 19-4 (CCC) - BEAT Univ. of New England; vs. Salve Regina 2/20
10. (11) WPI 16-5 17-5 (NEWMAC) - LOST to Springfield; vs. Clark 2/20
11. (7) Western Connecticut 15-6 16-6 (LEC) - WON at Eastern Connecticut; vs. Mass-Boston 2/20

Dropping out: Mass-Dartmouth (LEC), Albertus Magnus (GNAC)

South Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. (4) Eastern Mennonite 14-2 18-3 (ODAC) - tied with Guilford - BEAT Virginia Wesleyan; BEAT Bridgewater (Va.); vs. Washington and Lee 2/20
2. (1) Guilford 20-2 20-2 (ODAC) - tied with Eastern Mennonite; WON at Washington and Lee; BEAT Emory and Henry; at Randolph 2/20
3. (3) Texas-Dallas 17-3 18-4 (ASC-East) - WON at Texas-Tyler; vs. East Texas Baptist 2/18; vs. LeTourneau 2/20
4. (2) Virginia Wesleyan 18-3 20-3 (ODAC) - LOST at Eastern Mennonite; at Hampden-Sydney 2/20
5. (5) Austin 18-5 18-5 (SCAC) - tied with Birmingham-Southern - at Hendrix 2/19; at Millsaps 2/21
6. (7) Randolph-Macon 13-4 19-4 (ODAC) - BEAT Lynchburg; LOST to Hampden-Sydney
7. (8) Maryville (Tenn.) 13-3 19-4 (GSAC) POOL B - at Covenant 2/17; vs. Piedmont 2/20
8. (6) Mary Hardin-Baylor 17-5 17-6 (ASC-West) - at Sul Ross State 2/18; at Howard Payne 2/20

Previously ranked: Mississippi College (ASC-East)

West Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. (1) UW-Whitewater 19-4 19-4 (WIAC) - tied with Stevens Point - WON at Oshkosh; vs. Superior 2/20
2. (2) UW-Stevens Point 19-3 20-3 (WIAC) - tied with Whitewater - WON at Platteville; at La Crosse 2/20
3. (3) St. Thomas 18-2 21-2 (MIAC) - BEAT Gustavus Adolphus; at Hamline 2/20
4. (4) Whitworth 19-2 21-2 (NWC) - WON at Whitman; at Linfield 2/20
5. (5) Central 17-2 19-4 (IIAC) - WON at Coe; vs. Cornell 2/20
6. (6) Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 14-3 18-4 (SCIAC) - WON at Whittier; vs. Pomona-Pitzer 2/20
7. (7) Chapman 17-1 22-2 (Independent) POOL B - at West Coast Baptist
8. (9) Augsburg 15-7 16-7 (MIAC) - WON at Bethel; at St. Mary's (Minn) 2/20
9. (NR) UW-La Crosse 14-7 15-8 (WIAC) - WON at River Falls; vs. Stevens Point 2/20

Dropping out: Hamline (MIAC)

Previously ranked: Gustavus Adolphus (MIAC)

KnightSlappy · February 23, 2010, 09:17:21 PM

Sorry for the delay, and it may be of little use by now, but here's the data through Sunday's games.

REG   #   WP     OWP    OOWP    SOS    RPI    RPI50   NAT   Pool        REG     OVR   CONF    Team

NE   01   1.000   0.489   0.541   0.506   0.630   0.753   001   A   C     22-0    24-1   NESCAC   Williams
NE   02   0.905   0.550   0.515   0.538   0.630   0.722   005   C   001    19-2    23-2   NESCAC   Middlebury
NE   03   0.913   0.476   0.529   0.493   0.598   0.703   011   A   C     21-2    22-3   NEWMAC   MIT
NE   04   0.810   0.525   0.535   0.529   0.599   0.669   024   C   005    17-4    19-5   NESCAC   Colby
NE   05   0.833   0.469   0.495   0.478   0.567   0.656   036   A   C     20-4    21-4   CCC     Gordon
NE   06   0.750   0.546   0.561   0.551   0.601   0.650   037   C   010    18-6    18-6   UAA     Brandeis
NE   07   0.792   0.474   0.507   0.485   0.562   0.639   043   A   C     19-5    19-6   GNAC    Albertus Magnus
NE   08   0.762   0.508   0.523   0.513   0.575   0.637   044   A   C     16-5    17-7   MASCAC   Bridgewater State
NE   09   0.739   0.522   0.520   0.522   0.576   0.630   050   C   017    17-6    18-6   NEWMAC   Worcester Polytech
NE   10   0.739   0.525   0.497   0.516   0.572   0.627   054   C   021    17-6    18-7   GNAC    Emerson
NE   11   0.750   0.493   0.510   0.499   0.562   0.624   061   C   026    18-6    19-6   GNAC    St. Josephs (Maine)
NE   12   0.720   0.531   0.517   0.526   0.575   0.623   062   A   C-2    18-7    18-7   LEC     Rhode Island College
NE   13   0.739   0.492   0.515   0.499   0.559   0.619   066   C   029    17-6    18-6   LEC     Western Connecticut
NE   14   0.680   0.548   0.518   0.538   0.574   0.609   075   C   036    17-8    17-8   LEC     Mass-Dartmouth

E   001   0.833   0.526   0.533   0.528   0.605   0.681   019   A   C     20-4    21-4   E8    St. John Fisher
E   002   0.833   0.479   0.495   0.484   0.571   0.659   030   A   C     20-4    21-4   AMCC    Medaille
E   003   0.792   0.527   0.508   0.521   0.588   0.656   034   A   C     19-5    20-5   SUNYAC   Oneonta State
E   004   0.739   0.516   0.506   0.513   0.569   0.626   057   C   023    17-6    18-7   SUNYAC   Plattsburgh State
E   005   0.714   0.543   0.522   0.536   0.580   0.625   060   C   025    15-6    18-7   E8    Ithaca
E   006   0.708   0.528   0.525   0.527   0.572   0.618   067   C   030    17-7    17-7   E8    Stevens
E   007   0.789   0.410   0.478   0.433   0.522   0.611   073   A          15-4    21-4   NEAC    SUNYIT
E   008   0.652   0.549   0.552   0.550   0.576   0.601   085   C   045    15-8    16-8   UAA     New York University
E   009   0.652   0.542   0.527   0.537   0.566   0.595   087   C   046    15-8    16-9   E8    Nazareth

A   001   0.917   0.543   0.528   0.538   0.633   0.727   003   A   C     22-2    23-2   NJAC    William Paterson
A   002   0.833   0.529   0.512   0.523   0.601   0.678   020   A   C     20-4    21-4   LAND    Merchant Marine
A   003   0.783   0.558   0.529   0.548   0.607   0.665   027   C   006    18-5    19-6   NJAC    Richard Stockton
A   004   0.773   0.552   0.522   0.542   0.600   0.657   033   C   009    17-5    20-6   NJAC    Rutgers-Newark
A   005   0.760   0.516   0.491   0.508   0.571   0.634   047   A   C     19-6    19-6   SKY     SUNY-Old Westbury
A   006   0.792   0.452   0.497   0.467   0.548   0.629   052   C   019    19-5    20-5   SKY     St. Josephs (L.I.)
A   007   0.739   0.520   0.497   0.512   0.569   0.626   058   A   C-2    17-6    20-6   CUNYAC   York (N.Y.)
A   008   0.760   0.486   0.501   0.491   0.558   0.625   059   C   024    19-6    20-6   CUNYAC   Baruch

MA   01   0.920   0.460   0.489   0.469   0.582   0.695   015   A   C     23-2    23-2   CSAC    Cabrini
MA   02   0.870   0.517   0.516   0.516   0.605   0.693   016   A   C     20-3    21-3   CAC     St. Marys (Md.)
MA   03   0.783   0.568   0.539   0.558   0.615   0.671   023   A   C     18-5    19-5   MACC    Albright
MA   04   0.840   0.481   0.510   0.491   0.578   0.666   026   A   C     21-4    21-4   CC    Franklin and Marshall
MA   05   0.826   0.497   0.510   0.501   0.582   0.664   029   A   C     19-4    20-5   MACF    DeSales
MA   06   0.750   0.580   0.535   0.565   0.611   0.658   032   C   008    15-5    16-8   MACC    Messiah
MA   07   0.750   0.550   0.541   0.547   0.598   0.648   039   C   012    15-5    20-5   MACC    Lycoming
MA   08   0.739   0.515   0.510   0.513   0.570   0.626   056   C   022    17-6    19-6   CAC     York (Pa.)
MA   09   0.727   0.506   0.510   0.507   0.562   0.617   068   C   031    16-6    18-7   LAND    Catholic
MA   10   0.737   0.486   0.502   0.491   0.553   0.614   069   C   032    14-5    17-7   CAC     Wesley
MA   11   0.667   0.569   0.530   0.556   0.584   0.611   072   C   034    16-8    16-8   MACC    Elizabethtown
MA   12   0.682   0.481   0.527   0.496   0.543   0.589   093   C   051    15-7    17-8   LAND    Scranton

S   001   0.920   0.503   0.535   0.514   0.615   0.717   006   A   C     23-2    23-2   ODAC    Guilford
S   002   0.895   0.530   0.530   0.530   0.621   0.712   009   C   002    17-2    21-3   ODAC    Eastern Mennonite
S   003   0.870   0.519   0.502   0.513   0.602   0.691   017   A   C     20-3    21-4   ASC     Texas-Dallas
S   004   0.826   0.551   0.522   0.541   0.612   0.684   018   C   004    19-4    21-4   ODAC    Virginia Wesleyan
S   005   0.824   0.510   0.511   0.511   0.589   0.667   025   B   002    14-3    21-4   GSAC    Maryville (Tenn.)
S   006   0.760   0.529   0.506   0.521   0.581   0.641   041   A   C     19-6    19-6   SCAC    Austin
S   007   0.737   0.549   0.530   0.543   0.592   0.640   042   C   013    14-5    20-5   ODAC    Randolph-Macon
S   008   0.792   0.462   0.499   0.475   0.554   0.633   048   C   015    19-5    19-6   ASC     Mary Hardin-Baylor
S   009   0.762   0.478   0.518   0.491   0.559   0.627   055   N/A        16-5    20-5   SCAC    Birmingham-Southern
S   010   0.696   0.516   0.498   0.510   0.556   0.603   082   C   042    16-7    18-7   SCAC    DePauw
S   011   0.700   0.506   0.500   0.504   0.553   0.602   084   C   044    14-6    18-6   ASC     Mississippi College

GL   01   0.833   0.511   0.501   0.508   0.589   0.671   022   A   C     20-4    20-5   NCAC    Wooster
GL   02   0.813   0.530   0.488   0.516   0.590   0.664   028   A   C     13-3    18-7   MIAA    Hope
GL   03   0.813   0.508   0.492   0.503   0.580   0.658   031   C   007    13-3    17-8   MIAA    Calvin
GL   04   0.773   0.555   0.509   0.539   0.598   0.656   035   A   C     17-5    19-5   OAC     John Carroll
GL   05   0.739   0.524   0.520   0.523   0.577   0.631   049   C   016    17-6    18-7   OAC     Wilmington
GL   06   0.760   0.474   0.504   0.484   0.553   0.622   064   A   C-2    19-6    19-6   PrAC    Thomas More
GL   07   0.739   0.476   0.497   0.483   0.547   0.611   074   C   035    17-6    17-7   AMCC    Penn State-Behrend
GL   08   0.714   0.506   0.486   0.499   0.553   0.607   076   C   037    15-6    19-6   NCAC    Wittenberg
GL   09   0.739   0.464   0.494   0.474   0.540   0.606   077   C   038    17-6    17-7   PrAC    Bethany

MW   01   0.905   0.590   0.551   0.577   0.659   0.741   002   A   IN     19-2    22-2   UAA     Washington U.
MW   02   0.842   0.556   0.543   0.552   0.624   0.697   013   A   C     16-3    20-5   CCIW    Carthage
MW   03   0.864   0.470   0.505   0.482   0.577   0.673   021   A   C     19-3    20-3   MWC     St. Norbert
MW   04   0.750   0.558   0.530   0.549   0.599   0.649   038   C   011    18-6    19-6   CCIW    Illinois Wesleyan
MW   05   0.826   0.441   0.498   0.460   0.552   0.643   040   A   C     19-4    21-4   HCAC    Anderson
MW   06   0.783   0.488   0.498   0.492   0.564   0.637   046   C   014    18-5    20-5   HCAC    Defiance
MW   07   0.708   0.554   0.532   0.547   0.587   0.628   053   C   020    17-7    18-7   CCIW    Wheaton (Ill.)
MW   08   0.778   0.432   0.479   0.448   0.530   0.613   070   A          14-4    17-7   SLIAC    Westminster (Mo.)
MW   09   0.667   0.537   0.539   0.538   0.570   0.602   083   C   043    16-8    16-9   CCIW    Augustana
MW   10   0.652   0.494   0.504   0.497   0.536   0.575   105   C   062    15-8    15-9   HCAC    Hanover
MW   11   0.667   0.466   0.507   0.479   0.526   0.573   107   C   064    14-7    14-9   MWC     Lake Forest

W   001   0.909   0.541   0.533   0.538   0.631   0.724   004   A   C     20-2    23-2   MIAC    St. Thomas
W   002   0.913   0.515   0.523   0.518   0.617   0.715   007   A   C     21-2    23-2   NWC     Whitworth
W   003   0.840   0.608   0.548   0.588   0.651   0.714   008   A   C     21-4    21-4   WIAC    UW-Whitewater
W   004   0.833   0.584   0.553   0.574   0.638   0.703   010   C   003    20-4    21-4   WIAC    UW-Stevens Point
W   005   0.944   0.422   0.519   0.454   0.577   0.699   012   B   001    17-1    22-2   IND     Chapman
W   006   0.905   0.474   0.508   0.485   0.590   0.695   014   A   C     19-2    21-4   IIAC    Central
W   007   0.789   0.480   0.495   0.485   0.561   0.637   045   A   C     15-4    19-5   SCIAC    Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
W   008   0.696   0.568   0.557   0.564   0.597   0.630   051   C   018    16-7    17-8   WIAC    UW-La Crosse
W   009   0.708   0.536   0.526   0.532   0.576   0.620   065   C   028    17-7    17-7   MIAC    Augsburg
W   010   0.750   0.448   0.487   0.461   0.533   0.605   079   C   040    12-4    17-7   SCIAC    Occidental
W   011   0.760   0.425   0.462   0.437   0.518   0.599   086   B   004    19-6    19-6   UMAC    Northwestern (Minn.)
W   012   0.652   0.541   0.526   0.536   0.565   0.594   088   C   047    15-8   15-10   MIAC    Gustavus Adolphus

Pool:   A    Top ranked team in Pool A eligible conference
    B    Pool B eligible team
    C    At large candidate
    N/A   Not eligible for postseason participation

B or C #      Rank in Pool (C or B)

A Status:      C    Pool A candidate, would rank within top 19 of Pool C
       C-2    2nd tier Pool A candidate, would rank 20-29 of Pool C
      IN   Clinched Pool A bid
       Blank   Ranks outside of the top 29 of Pool C

RPI50:   50% WP and 50% SOS
RPI:    25% WP and 75% SOS

Updated:      2/23/2010

Titan Q · February 23, 2010, 09:32:47 PM

Knightslappy, thanks again for doing this. Great stuff.

In the Midwest, I do not see Anderson as a Pool A that is safe as a C. This week Anderson is going to be ranked behind both Wheaton and Illinois Wesleyan (two Pool C bubble teams) in the region again. Anderson has a home loss to Augustana...IWU and Wheaton both swept Augustana.

With a loss in the HCAC tournament, Anderson would probably be behind both Wheaton and IWU in the final Midwest ranking...they might never get to the table.

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/02/17/2010-regional-rankings-week-3/

Titan Q · February 23, 2010, 09:52:04 PM

So first stab at the "mortal locks"...the current Pool A's that would be guaranteed a C in the event of a conference tournament upset.

(In order of Knightslappy's national ranking)

1. Williams (1)
2. William Paterson (3)
3. St. Thomas (4)
4. Guilford (6)
5. Whitworth (7)
6. UW-Whitewater (8)
7. MIT (11)
8. Carthage (13)
9. Central (14)
10. Cabrini (15)
11. St. Mary's (16)
12. Texas-Dallas (17)
13. St. John Fisher (19)
14. St. Norbert (21)
15. Wooster (22)

What does everyone think of this list of 15?

John Gleich · February 23, 2010, 10:13:00 PM

Looks good except Guilford isn't the ODAC #1 seed, Eastern Mennonite is... but I think both of them are in anyway, so it's moot.

KnightSlappy · February 23, 2010, 10:18:32 PM

It's hard to get my numbers to line up with the official rankings, especially since I am only considering two of the criteria (and not critically examining either of them).

Without any scientific study, it has seemed from the past two weeks that the RPI50 category (that I am currently using to rank teams) does a good job of picking the teams that will be ranked, and then standard RPI does a better job of ranking those teams in the region.

For example, in the midwest, 8 of the top 9 teams that I have listed will be the teams that are ranked, but looking at the standard RPI, Anderson is pretty weak and will likely be ranked behind IWU and Wheaton, as Titan Q points out.

Titan Q · February 23, 2010, 10:20:23 PM

Quote from: PointSpecial on February 23, 2010, 10:13:00 PM
Looks good except Guilford isn't the ODAC #1 seed, Eastern Mennonite is... but I think both of them are in anyway, so it's moot.

Revised...

(In order of Knightslappy's national ranking)

1. Williams (1) - OK if Middlebury wins the A...they are a lock C
2. William Paterson (3)
3. St. Thomas (4)
4. Whitworth (7)
5. UW-Whitewater (8) - OK if Stevens Point wins the A since they are a lock C
6. Eastern Mennonite (9) - OK if Guilford of Va. Wesleyan wins the A since both are C locks anyway
7. MIT (11)
8. Carthage (13)
9. Central (14)
10. Cabrini (15)
11. St. Mary's (16)
12. Texas-Dallas (17)
13. St. John Fisher (19)
14. St. Norbert (21)
15. Wooster (22)

KnightSlappy · February 23, 2010, 10:22:35 PM

Quote from: Titan Q on February 23, 2010, 09:52:04 PM
So first stab at the "mortal locks"...the current Pool A's that would be guaranteed a C in the event of a conference tournament upset.

(In order of Knightslappy's national ranking)

1. Williams (1)
2. William Paterson (3)
3. St. Thomas (4)
4. Guilford (6)
5. Whitworth (7)
6. UW-Whitewater (8)
7. MIT (11)
8. Carthage (13)
9. Central (14)
10. Cabrini (15)
11. St. Mary's (16)
12. Texas-Dallas (17)
13. St. John Fisher (19)
14. St. Norbert (21)
15. Wooster (22)

What does everyone think of this list of 15?

Would be interesting to also note the conferences that have another likely Pool C team (Stevens Point in the WIAC), so that an "upset" by that team wouldn't take away a Pool C bid.

**Edit** Titan Q beat me to it!

Quote from: PointSpecial on February 23, 2010, 10:13:00 PM
Looks good except Guilford isn't the ODAC #1 seed, Eastern Mennonite is... but I think both of them are in anyway, so it's moot.

Yeah, same with Hope in the MIAA (not on this list). I've been doing it by RPI because it's impossible to project a tournament winner, and manually checking all the standings every time is not fun.

ziggy and I attempted a tournament projection, you can find what we came up with through the link in my signature.

KnightSlappy · February 23, 2010, 10:33:17 PM

It's also worth mentioning that the teams that are listed as "A C" are not necessarily "locks" but rather their RPI50 is simply inside the range as set by the 19 Pool C's. (There are 30 "A C" teams). Basically, these are teams that would be in (according to RPI50) if there were no other upsets.

Here's how RPI50 distributes the bids, for multi-bid conferences:

ODAC   4
MACC   3
NESCAC   3
NJAC   3
WIAC   3
ASC   2
CCIW   2
HCAC   2
MIAA   2
NEWMAC   2
OAC   2
SKY   2
UAA   2