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Ralph Turner

From the Handbook...

QuoteRegional rankings. The men's basketball committee will release regional rankings
on the following dates:
• Wednesday, February 2
• Wednesday, February 9
• Wednesday, February 16
• Wednesday, February 23
• Sunday, February 27

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 05, 2010, 08:00:52 PM
From the Handbook...

QuoteRegional rankings. The men's basketball committee will release regional rankings
on the following dates:
• Wednesday, February 2
• Wednesday, February 9
• Wednesday, February 16
• Wednesday, February 23
• Sunday, February 27

Does it say anything about whether that last one will be made public (even though they said it would last year, but never was).
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Hugenerd


hickory_cornhusker

Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 05, 2010, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 05, 2010, 08:00:52 PM
From the Handbook...

QuoteRegional rankings. The men's basketball committee will release regional rankings
on the following dates:
• Wednesday, February 2
• Wednesday, February 9
• Wednesday, February 16
• Wednesday, February 23
• Sunday, February 27

Does it say anything about whether that last one will be made public (even though they said it would last year, but never was).

The Sunday date would be the final regional rankings as that is Seclection Sunday so it looks like the handbook is telling us they are releasing the final rankings.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: hugenerd on December 05, 2010, 11:03:03 PM
The last one was made public last year.

http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030110aae.html

Was that really out before the tournament started?  I couldn't find it anywhere.  Releasing it after the selection is over is sort of useless.
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Hugenerd

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Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 06, 2010, 10:10:22 AM
Quote from: hugenerd on December 05, 2010, 11:03:03 PM
The last one was made public last year.

http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030110aae.html

Was that really out before the tournament started?  I couldn't find it anywhere.  Releasing it after the selection is over is sort of useless.

If you look at the URL, it was released on March 1, 2010 (the NCAA always has the date in the URL).  Since the tournament started on March 4, it was released 3 days before the tournament started.  The final rankings and selection are completed on the same day, which in this case was Sunday, February 28, which can spill over into the next day in some cases (Monday, March 1). They released the rankings the same day they released the tournament bracket.

Further, I linked to the release on this board on March 1, the day it was released:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4232.msg1184234#msg1184234

Therefore, all you needed to do was look at this board the Monday it was released.

The NCAA kept their word in this case. I dont think it is feasible to expect them to release the rankings prior to the NCAA selection, since they are both completed on essentially the same day.  I am not sure if there is even anyone in the NCAA office to post things on weekends, which would make that Monday the first day that it could have been posted.

KnightSlappy

RPI-based regional rankings thru Sunday's games:

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2010/12/regional-rankings-1262010.html

I'm not adjusting the OWP and OOWP yet; I don't have home/road/neutral designations.

A few schedules are still missing as well.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

The final poll was conducted on Selection Sunday but was not released until after Monday's announcement of who was going (and who wasn't going) to the tournament... that way there would still be a measure of "surprise" on Monday.
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ronk

  Some might think they wanted to avoid complaints about their final ranking before they released the selections based on that ranking.

KnightSlappy

I think the handbook is still incorrectly listing Birmingham-Southern as championship eligible, but I think they're in their last year of the reclassifying process.

Took a ton and a half of digging, but here's the chart: http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/AMA/DIII%20Membership/Provisional,%20Reclass%20%20Exploratory%20Chart.pdf

They should not be eligible.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 03, 2010, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 03, 2010, 09:06:29 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 03, 2010, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 02, 2010, 07:35:16 PM
Also, remember that the Commonwealth Coast Conference goes away in 2011-12.  That throws about 12 more teams into Pool B for 2 years.

It's not official yet, but that's not going to happen.
That post begs the question...

Has the threat to disband The Commonwealth Coast Conference had the desired effect of "chasing" away the "uninvited"?

If the teams that were not wanted have moved to other conferences, then why go thru Pool B without the Automatic Qualifier (AQ) for 2 years?

There's no official word yet, but the rumblings I'm hearing say exactly that - the nine defectors will probably rejoin the one remaining team and play with ten next year.

When you think about it, it makes the most sense.


Just heard.  It is official, but there will be no press release.  The nine teams that were going to leave the CCC are staying in the CCC.  So with ENC remaining they'll be a ten team conference next season, playing a full double round robin for 18 conference games.  They'll remain in Pool A.
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KnightSlappy

Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 08, 2010, 09:14:22 PM
I think the handbook is still incorrectly listing Birmingham-Southern as championship eligible, but I think they're in their last year of the reclassifying process.

Took a ton and a half of digging, but here's the chart: http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/AMA/DIII%20Membership/Provisional,%20Reclass%20%20Exploratory%20Chart.pdf

They should not be eligible.

12/8 handbook update: http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/champ_handbooks/basketball/2011/11_3_mbasketball.pdf

They've corrected Birmingham-Southern to identify them as a reclassifying institution.

I'm now convinced they read this board.

David Collinge

Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 10, 2010, 10:32:13 PM
I'm now convinced they read this board.
The Handbook fails to recognize Wooster as the 2010-11 National Champions...


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